If Final Fantasy VII Remake had no overworld, would you be mad?

[Cheezeman3000]

You actually have to be able to explore it, yes. Vs. the FFX style of "here's a list, you teleport wherever you want to go" nonsense.

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I agree with you. They should keep this design for the remake, just make it much prettier. While I don't have a problem with FFXII's open-feeling map design and exploration, I don't think it would work at all with FFVII.

Ni No Kuni did a great job providing that same feeling of a big explorable world but in the HD era.

 

[Deleted member 721]

You can't do airships or vehicles on FFXII-style maps, though. And vehicles are a huge part of FFVII.

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you can have the world map and you enter in the zones like ff12 style maps, a mixed way

 

[Carmelozi]

Right, you could have the vehicles just be a loading screen, but it kinda destroys any of the majesty of getting an airship or a submarine if all it is is just a glorified loading screen, y'know? The Highwind moment in FFVII was a huge deal!

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Ah I did not explain well. I meant we could see these scenes while changing zones. Imagine you are at Midgar area and you want to go in the Icicle Area by airship, so we have two zones and there would be a loading scene while changing zone. And when you in that zone, you can travel freely.

 

[Sleepwalker]

Yeah, I'm pretty interested in how they'll tackle the overworld. I don't believe we'll get giant Cloud walking shoulder to shoulder with mountains like in the original, but I'd like some kind of compromise to be made, maybe like a map from the old Fallout games where you'd set a destination and watch a sped-up version of the journey during which random encounters would occur, into which vehicles and chocobos would tie in, granting access to new locations and getting rid of random encounters.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Ah I did not explain well. I meant we could see these scenes while changing zones. Imagine you are at Midgar area and you want to go in the Icicle Area by airship, so we have two zones and there would be a loading scene while changing zone. And when you in that zone, you can travel freely.

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So, what, like a controllable cutscene where you "fly" the airship around while it loads the next area? Like the loading screens in Destiny and Warframe?

 

[mute]

I would be ecstatic.

 

[Deleted member 6730]

I just want it to be good. Actually scratch that I just want it to come out. (but I still want it to be good)

 

[wtd2009]

I just want there to be enough worth exploring. I don't care it that's an over world or not, but I want to be able to explore the towns and people living in it. That's what made the game so special to me.

 

[Vincent Grayson]

I don't much care, but I can't see it being anything like the original overworld. That whole skewed perspective with a big character/tiny cities...ain't gonna happen.

Now, do I even remotely expect a massive, realistically-sized world? No. I'm guessing some kind of transition between locations and more open locations.

 

[Sign My Guestbook!]

Not at all. FF7 was had an overworld, but that's not open world as we understand it today.

 

[Carmelozi]

So, what, like a controllable cutscene where you "fly" the airship around while it loads the next area? Like the loading screens in Destiny and Warframe?

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Didn't touch these games but I just watched videos and yes it could be something like that.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

Nomura already said it's not going to be a big open world like other AAA games. I would guess it would most closely resemble FFXII. A large playable zone with loading screens, you get more and more freedom as the game progresses.

This game seems to be Versus XIII but taking place in VII's universe. This is a screenshot of Versus

This is a zone.

 

[Professor Beef]

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[Deleted member 17658]

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thanks boss

 

[Cheapstare]

Do it like the Witcher 3. Do everything like the Witcher 3.

 

[Turin]

Only need an overworld to fly the airship around.

 

[Professor Beef]

Do it like the Witcher 3. Do everything like the Witcher 3.

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If you want a final fantasy game to be devoid of fun, then final fantasy 4 already has that covered.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

But to answer your question OP, i don't really care either way. I just want to play the game.

I'd be really shocked if a game with FF7 remakes art style and production values had an overworld like the original, it would be jarring and wouldn't make sense with the type of combat system they have.

 

[Normal]

It doesn't need an overworld. The only thing the overworld ever did was give people a false sense of non-linearity.

 

[UsoEwin]

If you want a final fantasy game to be devoid of fun, then final fantasy 4 already has that covered.

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Wow looks like we got a wise guy over here

 

[Swift_Gamer]

Nomura already said it's not going to be a big open world like other AAA games. I would guess it would most closely resemble FFXII. A large playable zone with loading screens, you get more and more freedom as the game progresses.

This game seems to be Versus XIII but taking place in VII's universe. This is a screenshot of Versus

This is a zone.

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This is the direction I want FF to go. No open world, not even an overworld, it's not really needed. Gimme that FFXII goodness.

 

[Master Alucard]

world map or don't make it. i don't really need a full world but something like....ff7 world map?

it's gonna be a big seller, don't cheap out of it. but square will fuck it up, of course

 

[Cheapstare]

If you want a final fantasy game to be devoid of fun, then final fantasy 4 already has that covered.

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Gwent >>>>>> Triple Triad

 

[the32BitPlayers]

I would be more than happy if the game would have Overworld with towns to visit.

 

[Moves]

Maybe an overworld similar to dragon quest XI would work well.

Edit: Now that I think about it I'm not sure since I was thinking about the boat which doesn't involving walking over the land.

 

[Bradford]

Truly don't care about the overworlds. I want some towns and such, though. If the game is well paced then I am happy.

 

[Lothar]

It wouldn't make a difference at all. The overworld of every Final Fantasy is just going from a Point A to Point B line.

Lack of World Map in FFX was always a shitty criticism.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

It wouldn't make a difference at all. The overworld of every Final Fantasy is just going from a Point A to Point B line.

Lack of World Map in FFX was always a shitty criticism.

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FFX made such a huge deal out of getting you the airship and then it was a menu. When I was a kid that made me see blood - it felt like such a cheap cop-out.

Not being able to pilot vehicles around the game world is a HUGE negative in my book.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

For new numbered FF games I've lived with the fact that the 'traditional' overworld is gone. It sucks, but there it is.

For a REMAKE of a game that had a pretty great overworld and some fun vehicles to control, I expect the team to address this and supply an overworld in parts 2, 3, however many.

 

[Juryvicious]

No hesitation, yes. An immediate pass, and the straw that broke the camel's back.

 

[Inuhanyou]

The overworldl only masked the turn based battles. It doesnt work in modern format as opposed to a more linear style going from place to place

Im much more interested in them fleshing out the detail of the indivual locations the party goes to after midgar than the space in between

 

[Jimnymebob]

Hitting the open world is what made me drop off FFVII, as I absolutely hated it.

 

[snausages]

Honestly I fully expect the structure of the Midgar entry to be what they do going forward. So if it's linear with a few open-ish areas then I bet that the rest of the games will be too.

Trying to recreate an overworld with modern fidelity requirements will set such a massive burden on this project. I don't think it's worth it.

 

[Secretofmateria]

Wow people sure do get defensive over the most harmless questions when it comes to ff7. Its like people here are just programmed to be nasty and snarky constantly, regardless, while id like it to be an open world outside of midgar, i dont know how realistic that is for the scope of the game. Im expecting the next parts to be linear with open hubs. Not disimillar to a god of war or tomb raider.

 

[Gold Arsene]

FF7 is a mostly straight shoot till the endgame so I really wouldn't mind that much.

 

[ChrisP8Three]

I've been worried about this for a long time, it needs the overworld otherwise they need to redo howyou aquire Yuffi and Vincent, Chrocobos's, optional bosses, the vehicles (they cannot omit flying the highwind) etc etc

I don't see how it can be the same game if they remove it, there was a lot of returning to areas and quests to do

 

[Lockheartilly9799]

Overworld as in tiny characters and towns? Naw. I'm done with that.

An illusion of an open world with 1:1 scale characters and towns? SO IN.

 

[Deleted member 426]

I've been worried about this for a long time, it needs the overworld otherwise they need to redo howyou aquire Yuffi and Vincent, Chrocobos's, optional bosses, the vehicles (they cannot omit flying the highwind) etc etc

I don't see how it can be the same game if they remove it, there was a lot of returning to areas and quests to do

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Final Fantasy VII remake has already proved it's going to be a super different game to FFVII. This is one of those remakes where it doesn't try to replace the original, but is a new experience.

 

[Deleted member 41638]

It was neat at the time but an overworld in the remake would just seem like a novelty

 

[Inuhanyou]

I've been worried about this for a long time, it needs the overworld otherwise they need to redo howyou aquire Yuffi and Vincent, Chrocobos's, optional bosses, the vehicles (they cannot omit flying the highwind) etc etc

I don't see how it can be the same game if they remove it, there was a lot of returning to areas and quests to do

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Oh thats an easy one.

Its not the same game.

 

[MP!]

I would love that... but I'm not expecting it...
I'm expecting the sort of corridor version of FFVII

 

[Deleted member 4869]

Give me an overworld or give me death.

A more polished, more populated version of the FFXV overworld would be great.

 

[Tyaren]

This is the direction I want FF to go. No open world, not even an overworld, it's not really needed. Gimme that FFXII goodness.

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Why does a world in small sections and loading time inbetween them make it automatically better or more enjoyable to you than a world without that? The way the XII world was built was very likely a product of the PS2 just not being able to generate a larger, seamlessly connected world. Episode 2 of FFVII Remake on PS5 will have no need for a sectioned off world with loading times, should they now needlessly put those in?

 

[Swift_Gamer]

Why does a world in small sections and loading time inbetween them make it automatically better or more enjoyable to you than a world without that? The way the XII world was built was very likely a product of the PS2 just not being able to generate a larger, seamlessly connected world. Episode 2 of FFVII Remake on PS5 will have no need for a sectioned off world with loading times, should they needlessly put those in?

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As long as the environments are varied enough, I'm fine with that. But the way XV was setup is just no good. So I don't mind a sectional overworld as long as you have multiple varied areas. XII has the biggest enemy and area variety in the whole series.

 

[Tuorom]

I want the world map because the map has the GOAT FF theme.

Where is it going to be if there is no world map? I'd be so sad :'(

 

[Molten_]

All I care about is of the world is connected. It doesn't need to be open world, specifically.

 

[Deleted member 4262]

Like, top-down Ni no Kuni style with miniatures? I honestly hate that shit.

Big open areas are fine though.

 

[Scuttlefluff]

I think I need that airship, guys.

I mean seriously, an FFVII remake that eliminates flying around a map with the Highwind. Might as well throw in the towel on the whole fucking thing.

 

[Tyaren]

As long as the environments are varied enough, I'm fine with that. But the way XV was setup is just no good. So I don't mind a sectional overworld as long as you have multiple varied areas. XII has the biggest enemy and area variety in the whole series.

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I also didn't like FFXV's open world. It was shallow, pretty much dead and a waste of space, but that does not mean they can't create a better open world for FFVII Remake or future FFs. Games like The Witcher 3 or Red Dead Redemption 2 show that open worlds can be done well and a Final Fantasy with a world like that would imo be an amazing thing to explore and experience.

 

[CosmicGP]

I think I need that airship, guys.

I mean seriously, an FFVII remake that eliminates flying around a map with the Highwind. Might as well throw in the towel on the whole fucking thing.

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Yeah airship would be nice. Especially now that nextgen consoles will have SSDs and can stream fast enough for flying vehicles. There's no excuse; I'd be perfectly fine with randomly generated terrain.

I also didn't like FFXV's open world. It was shallow, pretty much dead and a waste of space, but that does not mean they can't create a better open world for FFVII Remake or future FFs. Games like The Witcher 3 or Red Dead Redemption 2 show that open worlds can be done well and a Final Fantasy with a world like that would imo be an amazing thing to explore and experience.

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WOT?

I think 15's open world was a fine first attempt by a dev that found HD towns hard. Baby steps; they couldn't even let you drive around manually, now you expect an open world as detailed and full of NPCs and sidequests to do? Nope, don't see it happening.

All I ask for is a big empty terrain to fly around in, with the handful of towns the original had, and the inevitable one or two dungeons sprinkled in.