If Final Fantasy VII Remake had no overworld, would you be mad?

[Deleted member 17658]

EDIT: My bad. I didn't really mean "open world" I meant more if FF7R did NOT have the classic "overworld"

So we know that Square has tried through the years to turn Final Fantasy into a more linear game, with a much more cinematic focus on the story after their merger with Enix, to some frustrations from long times fans. Initially, I was one who hated the idea of a linear Final Fantasy but after replaying Final Fantasy 7 (and even 8) proper, there is A LOT of subtle nuances about the stories that is not explained unless you go out your way from the main story. I mean, how many people saw the Zack truck scene on their FIRST playthrough (not me...)? While you can make the argument that "it's a reward for exploring the game", I really feel a more focused story driven remake is the best way to go to flesh out and put a focus more on the story (which I feel is one of their best in Final Fantasy) especially since the story is usually the most important part of Final Fantasy. I do feel it will benefit FF7 remake to now have voice acting and proper facial expressions to properly give context to scenes. I mean christ, FFX was number 1 in a recent pole and how hard was that game criticized for not having an overworld?

So do you think they should go more linear in terms of FFX or keep the overworld?

 

[Deleted member 2791]

why would it even be open world
the original wasn't

 

[Zohar127]

I would be fine if it weren't open world, and the world map was just not to scale just like the original.

 

[Kuro]

I wouldn't really call XV much of an open world either tbh. It definitely had the illusion of one but it felt more like a sandbox to me with the latter bits being linear. I fully expect FF7 Remake to have open world areas considering them breaking the game into parts because if not then wtf.

 

[Dinobot]

No. The original game was linear and I am fine with linear games. I have open world fatigue, as should the rest of you if you've been keeping up with some of the biggest hits of this generation.

 

[antitrop]

Even once you leave Midgar, I still feel like the game guides you up to Rocket Town on a pretty straight-forward path. Once you get the Tiny Bronco, I think that's when the game really starts to open up, but I don't feel like the Remake needs to be a full-blown open world to express that.

 

[Seiken]

Open world wtf

Heading to Kalm? Nah fuck that, heading to Northern Crater!

 

[Doskoi Panda]

you've gotta clarify what you mean by open world. nobody expected these games to be open world in the GTA, FarCry sense, after all

 

[Swift_Gamer]

Final Fantasy was always linear. I don't want VII to be open world, in fact, I don't think open world design belongs to FF. Modern FF should follow on XII steps, where it's not open world, but not 100% linear. It's the best of both worlds.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

I mean the original isn't "Open World" if it doesn't have an overworld map like the original then I might be mad yes.

 

[MilkBeard]

It doesn't need to be open world. A midpoint is preferable, with the illusion of depth of choice (just like the original, but this time a bit more fitting of the HD era). They can capture the scale by making the maps big and detailed enough, but they don't need to waste their time making everything "open world." It would kind of be a waste.

 

[The Last One]

I don't think that the game will be open world anyway.

 

[logash]

No way is this game gonna be open world. The story of FF7 is far too big for a modern open world game.

 

[Ouroboros]

Wait...what?

 

[Canucked]

I don't wanna be in the hot take hall of fame, but everyone is gonna be mad at FFVII no matter how the game turns out.

Really.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

It would be functionally impossible to translate FFVII's game world into the open world format. There is not a developer or a budget in existence that could pull that off.

Just do it the way they already did it the first time: detailed area maps and a less detailed field map.

 

[Wulfric]

I want to see Cloud traversing a mini world map, like how Ni no Kuni 2 does it. No need to deviate too much from the original.

 

[Ploid 6.0]

I would be fine if it weren't open world, and the world map was just not to scale just like the original.

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This is all I would want, I've seen Square Enix Open World and I doubt they will do a good job with it, especially with FFXV like gameplay.

 

[Deleted member 17658]

why would it even be open world
the original wasn't

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maybe "having a large overworld" was a better way of putting it.

 

[Hate]

It's fine.

 

[Spacejaws]

Yea Open World is not the correct term, but if you mean the openess and exploration of the world map then I really hope so but I'm not optimistic.

For those saying FFVII is a purely linear experience there were plenty of opportunities to go off the beaten path and explore some non essential areas and towns which is part of what made it special in my opinion.

 

[MilkBeard]

I don't wanna be in the hot take hall of fame, but everyone is gonna be mad at FFVII no matter how the game turns out.

Really.

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It's not a hot take if it's truth

 

[SugarNoodles]

FF progression structure has always been linear. It's just a matter of how open the level design is and how badly it clashes with the story as a result.

 

[Optional Objectives]

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[OrangeNova]

Linear progression with the FF7 world map, opening up in the same way.

 

[Deleted member 721]

i dont expect to be open world, my cash is in FF12 style, and i'm ok with it

 

[stinkyguy666]

I want to see Cloud traversing a mini world map, like how Ni no Kuni 2 does it. No need to deviate too much from the original.

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Considering that FFVII remake seems to be going for a realistic aesthetic I doubt that that it'll be a mini world map. It'll probably be similar to FFXV.

 

[Ratazk]

If there's no overworld map, I'm going to be very disappointed.

My fear is that this is going to wind up like FF13. I really don't want this to be a corridor simulator.

I don't mind if it's linear (original FF7 was up to a point), but I want that map and the sense of exploration that goes along with it.

 

[Anas]

I don't wanna be in the hot take hall of fame, but everyone is gonna be mad at FFVII no matter how the game turns out.

Really.

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Indeed
and Square has been amazingly good at satisfying audience lately

 

[deftones r cool]

At this point, they could do whatever the hell they want with FF7 remake. I just want the damn thing to com eout.

E3 this year though, right? I expect SOME news.

 

[SurrenderDorothy]

No, I'd rather have hubs anyway.

 

[asd202]

How they will translate the world map is one of the things I'm the most interested about. People should not dismiss that it will not be open world like for example FFXV IMO.

 

[antitrop]

As long as it's not selecting locations from a menu like FFX, I think I'll be okay.

 

[Diego Renault]

If Super Mario Odyssey was NOT an FPS, would you be mad?

 

[finalflame]

yes

 

[Arthoneceron]

I'm not sure.

It's pretty clear that if you want to make an Open World, you need to know how to make one. And Square-Enix proved more than once that they don't.

I just want to know in what form they would put an open world in an segment as Midgar. That would be a hell on earth.

 

[Koozek]

Who the hell is expecting an actual open world? It's most likely just gonna be big seamless zones with loading screens in-between parts of the world map and town/cities.

E3 this year though, right? I expect SOME news.

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ICYMI, there's a FFVII concert on the same day as MS' E3 conference and in the email they had a "The time has come." tagline:

The first ever Final Fantasy VII only concert is coming to Los Angeles on June 9th

 

[Deleted member 17658]

Yea Open World is not the correct term, but if you mean the openess and exploration of the world map then I really hope so but I'm not optimistic.

For those saying FFVII is a purely linear experience there were plenty of opportunities to go off the beaten path and explore some non essential areas and towns which is part of what made it special in my opinion.

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yea this is pretty much what I mean. Narrowing the roads more similar to 10, 13 and 15 in their own ways. Or even taking the traveling out of the players hands at times.

 

[Canucked]

I'm not sure.

It's pretty clear that if you want to make an Open World, you need to know how to make one. And Square-Enix proved more than once that they don't.

I just want to know in what form they would put an open world in an segment as Midgar. That would be a hell on earth.

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I am excited for the game, and I am trying not to jump on the skeptic bandwagon. I will give it a chance....but...

I fully expect the midgar section of the new game to be a FFX/FFXIII -esque set off hallways and set pieces. The world will probably open up after that a bit but not fully open world.

 

[Deleted member 721]

How they will translate the world map is one of the things I'm the most interested about. People should not dismiss that it will not be open world like for example FFXV IMO.

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i hope its like lost odyssey, its the best choice

 

[PlanetSmasher]

yea this is pretty much what I mean. Narrowing the roads more similar to 10, 13 and 15 in their own ways. Or even taking the traveling out of the players hands at times.

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Yeah, I'd be pretty fucking upset if the game was just a list of landmarks with no connective tissue. 10, 12 and 13's worlds felt staggeringly small and bland because of the lack of scale.

 

[AdversaryOne]

So acquiring missions/quests directly from NPCs vs. just alternating from dungeons to towns based on something you heard from an NPC.

That's the only real difference between open world games and the structure of a traditional RPG, imo.

 

[Caiops]

How they are going to make the world map part without it being an open world?

There's the airship.

I don't know how they can pull it off with just zones like FFXII.

 

[Unkindled]

I hope to god it's not open world.

 

[hikarutilmitt]

Why would I be mad? I don't even want it to be OW...

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[pleaseinsertdisctwo]

I'll take a point-and click to different locations or a world map like Chrono Cross if it means having plenty of varied environments with good level design and polish over something that is technically large but pretty small in scale like XII or ridiculously small like in XV

 

[WarpSpeedMolasses]

No, it has no business being open world.

 

[Lord Vatek]

I'd be mad if it was.

 

[OmniStrife]

Make it a linear experience masquerading as an open world ala GoW

 

[daveo42]

No reason for it to be open world. So no, I'd be happy if it remained similar in structure as FFVII with separate towns/dungeons from the overworld.