Can't be long. The story is hitting the mainstream press in Germany, with Hansi being named in a Stern.de article.
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Iced Earth guitarist Jon Schaffer among Trump supporters who stormed Capitol [up: arrested]
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Can't be long. The story is hitting the mainstream press in Germany, with Hansi being named in a Stern.de article.
A World Order dictatorship
From their patiently crafted scheme
Corruption! The cancer that destroys us
Placate! They buy then bind us
Enslavement! Is there hope for those who falsely think they're free?
Cowards! They hide in ivory towers
Treason! Committed by the hour
Destruction! Without the Constitution in bondage we will be
Wow that's some shit Lunaray
From their patiently crafted scheme
Corruption! The cancer that destroys us
Placate! They buy then bind us
Enslavement! Is there hope for those who falsely think they're free?
Cowards! They hide in ivory towers
Treason! Committed by the hour
Destruction! Without the Constitution in bondage we will be
Wow that's some shit Lunaray
I'm sure Owens hasn't discussed it, he's just made a frequent habit of saying he's apolitical while saying Trump is the president America needed and mocked people who are anti-Trump. I'm surprised he wasn't standing alongside Schaffer. Even Sebastian Bach called him out on it yesterday.
Yeah, The Glorious Burden raised all sorts of alarm bells in my head, but when I heard he was doing this side project I knew he was far gone.
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Gonna be honest, this one hurts :(
Sucks. Man if Hansi doesn't say something soon not sure what I'll do, that dude is like my metal god.
Sucks. Man if Hansi doesn't say something soon not sure what I'll do, that dude is like my metal god.
Considering he's wanted by the feds, probably found himself his own bunker to hide in.
Don't know how long exactly this has been up on Blind Guardian's website. Date says 8th, which would indicate it's an indirect response to Jon Schaffer's involvement.
I'm disappointed they aren't directly naming Jon and forcefully distancing themselves from him, but I'll cut them some slack if they publicly cut ties after charges are officially filed.
Also wtf am I supposed to do with my two concert-exclusive $45 Demons & Wizards shirts now? What a f*cking waste of cash!
Rot in hell, Jon.
Rot in hell, Jon.
Glad I already had tickets for Godspeed You! Black Emperor the same day Demons & Wizards were here.
At least I can be proud I was among the small handful of attendees who abstained from chanting "Jon! Jon! Jon!" when Hansi introduced the band. Hansi, Markus, and Frederick got first-name chants too which I made sure I was super loud for to contrast with the dirty glare I gave Jonny boy during his moment in the spotlight.
My love of Hansi so heavily outweighed my distaste for Jon that I had zero issue spending almost a hundred bucks on D&W merch (which, for context to the uninitiated is a band who was defunct for fifteen years—ten of which I had been a fan for—before finally touring in the U.S.).
I wonder if MAGA chuds would overpay for them on the second-hand market now that D&W will be a toxic brand. They already gave away the entirety of their dignity (and then some), so it'd be sweet to strip them of some of their money too.
Except oh wait D&W doesn't create braindead country music so how the f*ck was Jon such an extreme far-right dipshit to begin with?
Blows the damn mind
Also Blind Guardian was (and maybe still is?) EviLore's favorite band. I only know this because I felt so special as a young, impressionable teen when I saw the overlord of my familial Internet community post nothing but BG albums in a "What are your top ten records of all time?" thread.
This was close to fifteen years ago at this point. Good Lord how times have changed
This was close to fifteen years ago at this point. Good Lord how times have changed
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Also TRIPLE POST B/C I'M DRUNK AND SAYING SURELY THE MODS WON'T THINK THIS FORUM REBELLION REGISTERS IN EVEN THE TOP GAZILLIONTH OF ACTIONS THAT DESERVE A PUNISHABLE OFFENSE IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD JANUARY 8, 2021 GODDAM WHY ARE WE CURSED WITH LIVING THROUGH THIS DISASTER OF THE UNIVERSE'S IMPOSSIBLY INFINITE TIMELINE AND ALSO WHY COULDN'T THE TWO REAL-LIFE CHILDREN VICTIMS DESCRIBED IN "FIDDLER AND THE GREEN" JUST HAVE BEEN JON INSTEAD OF INNOCENT KIDS AGGGGHHH
Always thought it was super fucked up how Jon dropped Tim for Matt's return, only for Matt to leave so soon after
lol I have the long-sleeve, one of the rare times I picked a LS instead of the t-shirt!
I'll still wear it, fuck it, we're quarantined anyway :D
Here you can find the interview he gave back in November at the Trump rally.
www.welt.de
Metal-Musiker Jon Schaffer: Die kruden Verschwörungstheorien der Trump-Fans - Video - WELT
Der amerikanische Metal-Musiker Jon Schaffer war einer derjenigen, die das US-Kapitol stürmten. WELT hat ihn bereits vergangenen November auf einer Pro-Trump-Demonstration getroffen. In der Rückschau wirken seine radikalen Aussagen wie eine Prophezeiung.
I can't say im surprised about this, this guy has been sprouting this bs for years.
Gonna have a hard time hiding from the authorities though with his relative fame.
Gonna have a hard time hiding from the authorities though with his relative fame.
Fuck... My Demons & Wizards album is looking weird now. Wonder what Hansi is thinking about all this.
Being mostly in contact with the european prog community, most of those are quite clearly leftists. And the few in the black metal community that i know tend to bend towards marxism more than anything.
But yeah, i've also seen a few examples of nazi leaning dudes while in festivals. And we can't deny that some bands are extreme right in their lyrics and behavior. But it's really not a majority, from what i can see at least.
Being mostly in contact with the european prog community, most of those are quite clearly leftists. And the few in the black metal community that i know tend to bend towards marxism more than anything.
But yeah, i've also seen a few examples of nazi leaning dudes while in festivals. And we can't deny that some bands are extreme right in their lyrics and behavior. But it's really not a majority, from what i can see at least.
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Here is a statement from Hansi/BG:
Was hoping for something stronger.
Statement - Blind Guardian
On the occasion of the assault upon the United States Capitol […]
www.blind-guardian.com
Was hoping for something stronger.
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What a weak statement. Didn't even mention Jon at all.Here is a statement from Hansi/BG:
Statement - Blind Guardian
On the occasion of the assault upon the United States Capitol […]www.blind-guardian.com
Was hoping for something stronger.
Blind Guardian's Singer Hansi is a lefty and supports the German party Die Linke.
METALLIAN - Blind Guardian
The Encyclopedia of heavy metal. A metal resource and portal with interviews, reviews and news on everything metal. Blind Guardian history, reviews and interviews.
metallian.com
It's far more likely they just never really talked about politics with this guy which is not uncommon for Germans.
Btw Trump was just this dumb goofy American president everyone including the media made fun of here all the time for the last few years. No one really took him serious before this happened so even if he actually mentioned that he supports Trump they probably just laughed a bit and moved on.
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bumping this thread with actual news? The rest of Iced Earth just made an official statement.
"We want to thank those of you who have sent words of support in recent days. Some of you have been concerned by our silence, which we understand. We needed some time to properly process the information and find out some facts before we made a statement.
"We absolutely DO NOT condone nor do we support riots or the acts of violence that the rioters were involved in on January 6th at the US Capitol building. We hope that all those involved that day are brought to justice to be investigated and answer for their actions.
"With broken hearts we are sending our love and compassion to everyone who has felt pain from the events on January 6th. We are deeply saddened and our hearts go out to the families of the lives lost that day. There are really no proper words to console. Just know we are with you in your shock, grief and pain. Much love to you all.
Stu, Luke, Jake, Brent"
"We want to thank those of you who have sent words of support in recent days. Some of you have been concerned by our silence, which we understand. We needed some time to properly process the information and find out some facts before we made a statement.
"We absolutely DO NOT condone nor do we support riots or the acts of violence that the rioters were involved in on January 6th at the US Capitol building. We hope that all those involved that day are brought to justice to be investigated and answer for their actions.
"With broken hearts we are sending our love and compassion to everyone who has felt pain from the events on January 6th. We are deeply saddened and our hearts go out to the families of the lives lost that day. There are really no proper words to console. Just know we are with you in your shock, grief and pain. Much love to you all.
Stu, Luke, Jake, Brent"
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So I'm assuming Jon is no longer part of the band anymore. lol
Jon Schaffer is Iced Earth. He is the only person who has the rights for the name.
It's the other way around. If the other members don't want to keep working with him they are no longer in the band. In that case Jon Schaffer has to either end the band or search for new musician who want to be part of the band.
Not that it's important but he was the third singer. First was Gene Adam and second was John Greeley.
Interestingly John was kicked out of the band for being a racist
Why has this dipshit not been arrested yet when so many other of the other insurrectionists have
FBI has a warrant.
I'm sure he's hiding like the tough guy he is. Talk a big game until the hammer comes down.
Ariel Pink has been a known Trump supoprter for a while now. Just take a look at his Twitter account.
If anything I'd say that far-right opinions seem distinctly more common among metal bands than metal fans, who tend to be accepting teddybears.
I never paid attention to his personal life l, I just like a few of his songs. I'm shocked that he is a Trump supporter. His music screams old fashioned hippie liberal.
I was suprised too, but then when I looked into his actual opinions and views and past behaviours, it all clicked into place.
That is the weakest response from BG. Honestly, if this is how they want to look, they don't need my attention either. I think 'waiting for evidence' is just hoping this is just a big misunderstanding. Which it doesn't seem to be the case from the moment it developed. Super weak response.
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ICED EARTH's Jon Schaffer Now Listed on FBI's Most Wanted
Things are not looking good for Iced Earth's Jon Schaffer. After being photographed storming the U.S. Capitol building, fans were shocked. The local D.C. police authorities listed him as a "Person of Interest" yesterday, and were seeking information on his identity. Now, the Federal Bureau of Invest
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Damn.Wowowowow
ICED EARTH's Jon Schaffer Now Listed on FBI's Most Wanted
Things are not looking good for Iced Earth's Jon Schaffer. After being photographed storming the U.S. Capitol building, fans were shocked. The local D.C. police authorities listed him as a "Person of Interest" yesterday, and were seeking information on his identity. Now, the Federal Bureau of Invest
I don't know man. Trump era has exposed lots of crazy ass fans. Blabbermouth.net comment section is WORSE than ever. Hard to believe...but yeah.
Another one for the trash bin
loudwire.com/iced-earth-stu-block-celebrated-riot-capitol-jon-schaffer/
loudwire.com/iced-earth-stu-block-celebrated-riot-capitol-jon-schaffer/
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Fuck this shitty band. Listen to Helloween or something other than these facist fucks.
He backpedalled, saying he misread "do you condemn" as "do you condone". Also, he seems to have removed Iced Earth mentions from his social media descriptions.
Bonus for a bit of levity: