ICC asks for more evidence on Uighur genocide claims - there is still insufficient evidence to warrant opening a full scale investigation -

[SilentPanda]

The International Criminal Court (ICC) has asked for more evidence before it will be willing to open an investigation into claims of genocide against Uighur people by China, but has said it will keep the file open for such further evidence to be submitted.

With Beijing not a signatory to the ICC, those bringing the claim of genocide have pointed to the alleged forcing of Uighur people from Tajikistan and Cambodia into China as evidence. Both countries are signatories to the Rome statute setting up the ICC.

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The expected ICC decision, already relayed to lawyers, is that there is still insufficient evidence to warrant opening a full scale investigation. Those bringing the claim say extra evidence is already being submitted to the ICC in The Hague and some of the initial evidence gathering had been delayed by the inability to travel to gather documentation because the coronavirus pandemic.

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The legal team said it had this week submitted a further communication to the prosecutor outlining this evidence. The ICC, already under attack from the US, will have to weigh the politics of opening a complaint against the world's other superpower.

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The latest complaint makes clear that the alleged crimes committed against the Uighur people in north-west China have been widespread and systematic, including people being subjected to imprisonment and torture as well as forced birth control, sterilisations and marriages.

The lawyers claim the torture has taken place on a mass scale and all examples should be investigated in order to ascertain whether the alleged perpetrators can be charged and tried.

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ICC asks for more evidence on Uighur genocide claims

Court expected to rule there is still insufficient evidence against China, but file to be kept open

www.theguardian.com

 

[Oreiller]

Even aside the political pressure the ICC is subjected to, the legal definition of genocide is pretty restrictive so that doesn't really surprise me that much.

 

[0h-so-Cold]

Well they ain't gonna get it from China thats for sure.

Is survivor accounts not enough?

 

[Deleted member 2809]

Convenient

 

[Amnixia]

Dumb question but let's say the ICC investigates and confirms the genocide.

What happens? CCP ain't gonna extradite Xi Jingping or anyone else.

Can they put sanctions on China?

 

[SilentPanda]

Well they ain't gonna get it from China thats for sure.

Is survivor accounts not enough?

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Dumb question but let's say the ICC investigates and confirms the genocide.

What happens? CCP ain't gonna extradite Xi Jingping or anyone else.

Can they put sanctions on China?

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Probabely not if you look at war crime investigation into UK(They investigated themself and found nothing wrong), US and Israel(Sanction the ICC) instead, and...nothing still.

 

[TouchOfGray]

Another useless international organisation.

 

[Serpens007]

Dumb question but let's say the ICC investigates and confirms the genocide.

What happens? CCP ain't gonna extradite Xi Jingping or anyone else.

Can they put sanctions on China?

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It would probably mean that Chinese government officials would not be able to stand in any country in where they could be arrested.

If they would actually be arrested is another story

 

[Deleted member 2809]

Dumb question but let's say the ICC investigates and confirms the genocide.

What happens? CCP ain't gonna extradite Xi Jingping or anyone else.

Can they put sanctions on China?

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nothing, look at israel

 

[Ramsay]

Dumb question but let's say the ICC investigates and confirms the genocide.

What happens? CCP ain't gonna extradite Xi Jingping or anyone else.

Can they put sanctions on China?

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On paper, signatories to the Rome Statute can extradite those who have been convicted by them f they set foot on the signatory's territory.

In practice...

 

[Amnixia]

It would probably mean that Chinese government officials would not be able to stand in any country in where they could be arrested.

If they would actually be arrested is another story

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nothing, look at israel

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On paper, signatories to the Rome Statute can extradite those who have been convicted by them f they set foot on the signatory's territory.

In practice...

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So basically everyone is just gonna stand by and let them continue, fuck I hate our species.

 

[caliph95]

It would probably mean that Chinese government officials would not be able to stand in any country in where they could be arrested.

If they would actually be arrested is another story

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So absolutely nothing

 

[Serpens007]

So basically everyone is just gonna stand by and let them continue, fuck I hate our species.

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Even if arrested, that grants nothing.

Pinochet was arrested then extradited to London, and from there back to Chile and got free. International Law is a very, very hard subject actually. It's not only lack of spine, and the political implications of arresting people from a superpower, but actually getting to arrest and condemn someone is a very lenghty and difficult process