Yeah like I don't dislike the designs from the GBA era, but they're practically stock.
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I wish Nintendo goes back to the GBA Fire Emblem designs
- Thread starter T-Virus
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These might be my favorite character designs in the series. Really wish this was the direction we were headed in.
this, the anime and waifu stuff saved the franchise even though I don't like it
Intelligent Systems makes Fire Emblem, not Nintendo.I'm playing Three houses right now and one thing that is bothering me is the generic design of the characters. They look boring to me. The design of the GBA games are so freaking good. I'm tired of the bland anime designs.
Look at this guy. He is Will, the first archer you have in Fire Emblem Blazing Sword.
Tell me something that stands out in him over any other fantasy archer.
He's not a LOTR esque or Dungeons and Dragons atypical Forest Elf for one thing.
Most likely nostalgia talking but FE6 and 7 are my absolute favourites. I would love a remake combining both games. I appreciated the relative simplicity of the older games. Skills and some of the mechanics found in the more modern games don't add much to the game to me.
Three Houses nailed the characters imo but I found the story really generic and the maps kind of sucked.
Three Houses nailed the characters imo but I found the story really generic and the maps kind of sucked.
Let's get the best of all worlds in a potential perfect Fire Emblem game:
- Chara-design: the one from Shadow of Valencia.
- Battle animations: back to 2D, but this time it's 2D just like the latest Guilty Gear games!
- Story: the Path of Radiance scenarist told a pretty solid story. Too bad it was badly handled in the sequel imho. We need something new, something fresh, something that is not something like Fates (*shudders*). Three Houses was a step in the right direction, at least.
- No more "My unit" or a silent protagonist.
Thank God someone posted this, Hidari is a genius
And while I agree that the attack animations in the GBA are gorgeous, the character design was just a bit above average.
Three houses' art is pretty bland imho
Because Will is an archer human, which is even more boring than an archer elf.
More early TCG images. Shamelessly generic, but it owns the look anyway.
all of these characters look like they'd be on an 90s OVA Laserdisc.
Not GBA Fire Emblem, but there's Shinon if you want a design that hews closer to an elven archer!
FE3H is my biggest gaming disappointment of the last few years. We used to travel the lands amassing a team of warriors, now we go to the dorm between each mission. I was really, really expecting to set off and travel the land at the midpoint of the game. The first mission post-even was the best, and I was very disappointed the initial systems kept going until the end. I hope they tone down the personal life simulator aspect of it in future games.
Yeah I just don't get people begging for Fire Emblem to return to the generic 90s anime art when a few years ago we had Hidari's beautiful work.
I know a lot of people don't like it, but deciding that in new games most characters have a recognizable quirk (and then a few minor ones) is a good idea from a design point of view.
When you have so many characters in a game and some of them spend so little time, you have to find some way to make them recognizable.
Let's compare the "two knights" of Blazing Sword and Three Houses. One is serious, stoic and professional. The other is a ladies' man, laid back, and a joker.
In Three Houses those features look much better to the naked eye with the design.
When you have so many characters in a game and some of them spend so little time, you have to find some way to make them recognizable.
Let's compare the "two knights" of Blazing Sword and Three Houses. One is serious, stoic and professional. The other is a ladies' man, laid back, and a joker.
In Three Houses those features look much better to the naked eye with the design.
Fire Emblem is the textbook example of a series that strictly follows the designs of the anime industry of the time so I don't know what they could change really.
Do you mean character designs? Because if so I would hard disagree. They looked pretty good before but I believe the character designs of the Three Houses cast are the best in the series, especially the post time skip designs (though some characters like Byleth leave something to be desired). The design of the three Lords are the highlight of the series imo.
If you mean the design of generic units, meh they are pretty much the same to me. GBA animations are amazing though, I think Three Houses went a bit backwards compared to Shadow of Valentia.
If you mean the design of generic units, meh they are pretty much the same to me. GBA animations are amazing though, I think Three Houses went a bit backwards compared to Shadow of Valentia.
Isn't the game selling much better now? And there houses was fantastic. I get nostalgia and longing for better days but if they're producing something that is doing well commercially and critically why go back.
Before seeing the timeskip designs in 3H I would've said Tellius had the best character designs because 3DS FE was more often a miss as far as character designs. But the timeskip designs are so good, and SoV had amazing designs as well. GBA FE has some good ones but a lot are forgettable tbh.
As for animations, while I love the GBA ones I think SoV and even Fates were pretty good in that regard. 3H also has some very cool ones, especially for the lords.
As for animations, while I love the GBA ones I think SoV and even Fates were pretty good in that regard. 3H also has some very cool ones, especially for the lords.
Things that I miss from the GBA the most are bright colors and snappy animations. When Awakening came out I felt like there was a bit of a shift from both those things, although when you look at the franchise as a whole then maybe the GBA is the outliers. At this point even if they go back to a brighter color palette I think nailing the animations is going to be tough. I've moved to a point where I turn off the battle animations because the time taken to transition and play it out takes way too long. If they can somehow keep the snapiness or just make the "animations off" setting somehow a little more satisfying I'd be happy.
Are we talking animations or designs?
Animation-wise, Berwick Saga is top dog IMO, followed closely by Tear RIng Saga. (If you haven't played either of those, you should!) With regard to Fire Emblems specifically, I think the GBA & SNES entries are the best, each having pros and cons. The continuous battlefields of the SNES are more immersive, but the flashier animations of the GBA are very endearing.
Character design-wise, Shadows of Valentia was the best of the modern games, but I greatly prefer Three Houses to Awakening/Fates. Three Houses' lords in particular are all top tier designs. (Three Houses also has some absolutely stand-out animations -- e.g. Edelgard's post-skip shield toss, harkening back to GBA's style -- but they're rather rare.)
Animation-wise, Berwick Saga is top dog IMO, followed closely by Tear RIng Saga. (If you haven't played either of those, you should!) With regard to Fire Emblems specifically, I think the GBA & SNES entries are the best, each having pros and cons. The continuous battlefields of the SNES are more immersive, but the flashier animations of the GBA are very endearing.
Character design-wise, Shadows of Valentia was the best of the modern games, but I greatly prefer Three Houses to Awakening/Fates. Three Houses' lords in particular are all top tier designs. (Three Houses also has some absolutely stand-out animations -- e.g. Edelgard's post-skip shield toss, harkening back to GBA's style -- but they're rather rare.)
Fire Emblem has long been one of my favorite series but nah lol the character designs were super bland on the GBA and earlier. Good sprites and great animations though for sure.
Best designs are probably in Echoes (funny enough, also my least-favorite game in the series). Three Houses also has good designs. Awakening and Fates are up and down but overall I'd still take them over the pre-Tellius designs pretty easily. The Tellius games do have good designs and and felt like a more natural evolution of the previous art style so I guess I'd be fine going back to that look.
I'm pretty okay with them going to new artists for newer games.
Best designs are probably in Echoes (funny enough, also my least-favorite game in the series). Three Houses also has good designs. Awakening and Fates are up and down but overall I'd still take them over the pre-Tellius designs pretty easily. The Tellius games do have good designs and and felt like a more natural evolution of the previous art style so I guess I'd be fine going back to that look.
I'm pretty okay with them going to new artists for newer games.
... Huh. I thought they used 2D models? Unless I got confused with other similar fighting games (such as Persona 4 Arena). Granted, I only watched a few videos of these games, and I thought the artstyle was fantastic. So, they use 3D rendering to make 2D-looking animation... That's impressive. Well, I learned something today.
I miss GBA-style Fire Emblem battle animations so much. There are like two crit animations in Three Houses that actually feel stylish and cool and they're still nowhere near the artistic majesty of the sprite-based Fire Emblem animations.
3D models just don't work well for this kind of stuff, or at least the way IntSys rigs and animates 3D models isn't well-suited for it.
3D models just don't work well for this kind of stuff, or at least the way IntSys rigs and animates 3D models isn't well-suited for it.
The sprite animations are dope in older games but the variety in character design in 3 houses is pretty great
Haha I just realized that the first image in the OP isn't even from a GBA Fire Emblem game, it's a fan edit of Sharena from Fire Emblem Heroes fighting Bartre from Binding Blade/Blazing Blade.
Er, yes? That's the point, the GBA games by and large do not have unique character models or sprite designs in combat, just different tints.
Er, yes? That's the point, the GBA games by and large do not have unique character models or sprite designs in combat, just different tints.
yea.....
I like the graphics for the GBA games but tbh i found pre-Awakeing FE to have very generic designs outside of Ike
Im glad with what we have now tbh
I like the graphics for the GBA games but tbh i found pre-Awakeing FE to have very generic designs outside of Ike
Im glad with what we have now tbh
Outside of the animation the sprites have dots for eyes, what's so amazing about that?
Looks like FE always been anime af.
Looks like FE always been anime af.
The dream would be Fire Emblem with all battles animated by the skullgirls team.
Straight up 3D has been kind of boring.
Straight up 3D has been kind of boring.
Guilty Gear Xrd and Strive are both 3D, yep. So is Dragon Ball FighterZ and Granblue Fantasy Versus. They're all made to look as close to 2D animation as possible.
Fire Emblem had amazing spritework. We need more modern RPGs that embrace those classic sprite graphics.
Damn that looks good.
Play đź‘Ź Berwick đź‘Ź Saga đź‘Ź
Also, watch its short intro sequence! iI's beautiful:
Damn that looks good.