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I wish I liked Final Fantasy Tactics

FFT?

  • It's amazing

    Votes: 173 74.2%

  • It's okay

    Votes: 39 16.7%

  • It's not great

    Votes: 21 9.0%
  • Total voters
    233
MillionStabs

MillionStabs

Member
Jan 11, 2018
511
I'm on Chapter 3, and I just can't see any appeal in this game, except maybe it's story and job system.

Every turn takes ages to finish, there's so many button presses needed to just move a character to a space and wait, even "random" battles can take around 10-15 minutes, and tutorials about all the systems and how to actually change jobs are all tucked away in a menu rather than shown anywhere during gameplay

The story is so confusing. They introduce new characters so fast I can't keep track of anyone's motives in this political nightmare. Maybe I set it up for failure because I always heard how great FFT was, but it feels like a big waste of time
 
MaverickHunterAsh

MaverickHunterAsh

Good Vibes Gaming
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
1,390
Los Angeles, CA.
Which version are you playing? The original PS1 version has an atrocious localization. The story makes way more sense in The War of the Lions, if you have access to that version.
 
bodine1231

bodine1231

Banned
Nov 16, 2017
194
I loved it when it first came out but it is definitely hard to go back to. The turns just take so long. I was playing my original copy so I'm sure there are newer/faster ways to play but I just couldnt get over how slow everything was.
 
Lobster Roll

Lobster Roll

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Sep 24, 2019
34,280
Oh wow, Chapter 3 is decently deep into the game. I'd say if you weren't feeling the love by now, it might not be for you.
 
Eros

Eros

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,656
Best single player game with Final Fantasy in the title and it's not even close
 
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MillionStabs

MillionStabs

Member
Jan 11, 2018
511
ZeoVGM said:
... So the two most important aspects of the game?
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I left out the somewhat unique (to FF) battle system cause I think it sucks, but I know that's why some people like it
MaverickHunterAsh said:
Which version are you playing? The original PS1 version has an atrocious localization. The story makes way more sense in The War of the Lions, if you have access to that version.
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I am playing WOTL, but I still have trouble following the story cause characters will be like "oh that Gauloiux is behind it all" or whatever and I can't remember who that is cause he showed up once in a dialouge like 2 hours ago.
 
Feep

Feep

Lead Designer, Iridium Studios
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Oct 25, 2017
4,596
It might not be for you, OP, but WotL is very expertly plotted and while you might need to pay close attention to the shifting alliances and motives, it's all perfectly followable.
 
Jimmypython

Jimmypython

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,533
yeah the game needs some serious QOL changes. I wish it had a remake like the PSP Tactics Ogre
 
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skillzilla81

skillzilla81

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Oct 25, 2017
10,043
Dunno what to say about the story being too confusing, but Tactics Ogre remake on PSP/Vita fixes all of those QoL problems you have.

It is a 23 year old game, afterall.
 
Nilson

Nilson

Member
Nov 5, 2017
1,414
Aadiboy said:
FFT battles are nothing compared to Tactics Ogre fights, those last forever.
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Replaying through TO now and as much as I absolutely love this game, I think that FFT has its systems down better and in general feels better to play. Also, maybe try out Fell Seal if you want a way more streamlined tactics RPG, it's great.
 
Thrill_house

Thrill_house

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,599
Probably the best final fantasy game. The music, job system, characters and story were great. Looks like it just isn't for you OP.
 
diablogg

diablogg

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Oct 31, 2017
3,267
My buddy who adores this game tried to get me into it as well. Wasn't feeling it at all to be honest. The combat was awkward, he was trying to get me to cheese job points or whatever there called and I'm like bro I'm not gonna sit here and throw rocks at these fools just for some extra points (I'm not one for needless grinding in games.) The story came at a glacial pace, at least in the first 4-5 hours of the game. Probably doesn't help that I think this game was probably truly great for its time, but compared to some of the tactics games that I've played that have come after it I don't think it really holds up. So yea the modern day version of myself can't see what other people see in this game.
 
Balbanes

Balbanes

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,213
It may be my favorite game of all time. At the very least, it's top 3. Story, job system, music are all 10/10.
 
ghibli99

ghibli99

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Oct 27, 2017
17,689
I can definitely appreciate it, as it just looks and sounds so beautiful, but the problem is with me and my inability to do well at tactics/strategy games. The only one I've ever been able to crack was Mario + Rabbids, which I don't even know if that qualifies as being in the same genre, but maybe it is.
 
dancingphlower

dancingphlower

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,053
I thought it was okay but that's a game that can definitely use some quality of life improvements. As you said, turns take forever and gameplay in general just doesn't feel satisfying. Even the story didn't really do much for me.
 
Burt

Burt

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Oct 28, 2017
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thewienke

thewienke

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Oct 25, 2017
15,928
I feel like most strategy JRPGs are just so obnoxiously slow in processing turns and showing moves. Like get on with it already.
 
Hu3

Hu3

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Oct 25, 2017
4,575
It's an amazing game. And more so war of the lions.

pro ti op. When you finish war of the lions get: Tactics Ogre: let us cling together.
 
Bonfires Down

Bonfires Down

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Nov 2, 2017
2,813
Yep, couldn't get into it. It's slow and clunky. But somehow FFTA2 is one of my favorite DS games, even though it also has slow turns and other problems.
 
logash

logash

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Oct 27, 2017
4,711
Every day I wish Square would port War of the Lions to a modern console. I can play it on my Vita but I want it on my big screen with trophies...
 
Catshade

Catshade

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Oct 26, 2017
2,198
I love the game, but yeah I wish they could tone down the random encounter rate or dial back the random enemies' level scaling. And maybe tone down the 'grinding for JP' aspect a little bit.
 
Mzo

Mzo

Member
Nov 30, 2017
1,162
Amazing game. Saw some tweets of someone struggling with the game and it made me want to play it again so bad. Going through the WotL version with the speed patch and it's superb. Everything about the game is great imo, and finally being able to understand the story makes a big difference.

The fun is in the job system. Keep your party tight to Ramza and 4 hires to start, go for good abilities like Focus, JP plus, move+1, then switch to other classes. I love making builds in this game.
 
skeezx

skeezx

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Oct 27, 2017
20,120
one of the GOATs but going into it blind in 2020 dunno what i'd think of it to be honest
 
leder

leder

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,111
I agree OP... I still like the game but it's got so much filler and the strategy gameplay is just not that great. It's fun to try and minmax your characters though.

It's way better than Tactics Ogre though. That game has so many throwaway characters, so many convoluted systems, such overly long missions, and such an overdone pompous translation. Really don't understand what people see in that game, other than how it allows you to grind so much.
 
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Arklite

Arklite

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Oct 27, 2017
3,638
I feel the same way, this game and Tactics Ogre. They look so cool and seem so interesting and are such a slog to get into.
 
GamerJM

GamerJM

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Nov 8, 2017
15,598
Have you tried the FFTA games? They're a lot more quick and pick-up-and-play friendly from what I played. The stories aren't anywhere comparable though.
 
yurr

yurr

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Nov 20, 2019
946
The matches just last too long.....but to counter disgaea at least From what I've played matches feel too fillery. Idk what a good balance is.
 
cdyhybrid

cdyhybrid

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,422
I wish I liked Street Fighter

I've played some online matches and can't see any appeal except for the fighting
 
Vaser

Vaser

Member
Oct 31, 2017
1,004
I don't like srpgs( too slow, no exploration/sense of adventure), but I do like Final Fantasy Tactics, mostly because of its setting, story and music. I like the job system as well, but the battles are super slow and they can get pretty tedious, pretty fast. Luckily, the music is incredible and helps to push you through some of the tedium. Here are some standout tracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NWKR5p3JNQ&list=PL5C894E719DEECEB2&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmUsHH5lxsA&list=PL5C894E719DEECEB2&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAerlH_sozg&list=PL5C894E719DEECEB2&index=28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8Gq1-Nv44&list=PL5C894E719DEECEB2&index=71
 
NioA

NioA

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Dec 16, 2019
3,626
I'm playing it in this period (beginning of chapter 4) and as far as I'm concerned, this game is better than any other mainline FF.
Wiegraf battle though is really a bad designed one.
 
Dogui

Dogui

Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,780
Brazil
I'm not really sure if OP has a problem with FFT specifically or just aren't into srpgs in general.

If anything, try to play these older srpgs in an emulator for its frameskip functions.
 
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