Banned forever.Times like this, I kinda miss PsychoMantis's nonsensical defense of the series. Is he still banned?
Ooooohhh right right. I remember now. That was bad.
And is that so? Perhaps I've been unfairly overlooking it. Still not happy about housewife Hinata but eh...
I mean, I never really delved into feasible Naruto ships before that debacle (HakuHina ftw), but, if so, wrow. That's awful.
OP, are you really that surprised that weebs like stereotyped shy girls who only get a little more assertive after the protagonist puts a part of himself inside her?
People are pretty specific about their Sakura complaints and you keep broadening certain things to fit Hinata in.Oh so people don't complain about how Sakura was poorly written, out of focus, lacked fights, and her wife status?
^I think people like her because she fits into the East Asian stereotype of the submissive unquestioning girl.
I like Hinata.Hey woah. Not only are you taking this scene completely out of context (Naruto put a part of himself in her BECAUSE she was assertive) but she also got assertive like 600 chapters ago.
Of course, she spent like 400 of those 600 chapters being ignored. >.>
Being a troll. Got a long ban for going into every single thread to talk shit about the switch/nintendo and it's users and the first thing he does after returning from said ban is do the same thing all over again. Good riddance.
On top of that Sakura fullfills the dedicated single-mom-that-isn't-actually-single trope. Her husband is always away doing work that's "more important" than spending time with her and his child, but oh well that's ok cause her husband is the best.
Just think about how many times those poor animators had to draw this because she's so one dimensional:
Being a troll. Got a long ban for going into every single thread to talk shit about the switch/nintendo and it's users and the first thing he does after returning from said ban is do the same thing all over again. Good riddance.
Switch fans do get riled up easily.Being a troll. Got a long ban for going into every single thread to talk shit about the switch/nintendo and it's users and the first thing he does after returning from said ban is do the same thing all over again. Good riddance.
Sure, but that doesn't warrant trolling in every single thread. But enough about banned members.
Just think about how many times those poor animators had to draw this because she's so one dimensional:
The poster explained what their thoughts were regarding why people liked Hinata, that unlike Sakura, at least she liked someone that wasn't awful like Sasuke was.
Then even goes on to say that despite her still being a terrible character overall, at least she isn't as bad as Sakura, so I also don't see how he put their respective affections on the same level.
And repeatedly tried to kill her and showed absolutely no interest in her at all. The only interaction they had before boning was sasuke saying she's annoying and stabbing herOn top of that Sakura fullfills the dedicated single-mom-that-isn't-actually-single trope. Her husband is always away doing work that's "more important" than spending time with her and his child, but oh well that's ok cause her husband is the best.
That's ignoring Sasuke is a vicious criminal that never got punished for his crimes, but whatever.
There's being 12 and shy about a crush and then there's the stalker type of love that was Hinata's characterization.Poor animators, having to animate their shows (actually considering how little animation goes into standing behind a tree, she's probably a godsend for them).
Also that stopped less than halfway into the series, so it's a very odd point to latch onto. "Remember when she was, like, 12 and was shy about a crush? So awful"
Arguably the amount of shit Naruto is willing to forgive is ridiculous and sorta speaks volumes about his regard for human life.The poster explained what their thoughts were regarding why people liked Hinata, that unlike Sakura, at least she liked someone that wasn't awful like Sasuke was.
Then even goes on to say that despite her still being a terrible character overall, at least she isn't as bad as Sakura, so I also don't see how he put their respective affections on the same level.
Actually why did Naruto liked Sakura? Was that ever explained besides him finding her pretty? I honestly can't remember.
There's being 12 and shy about a crush and then there's the stalker type of love that was Hinata's characterization.
Arguably the amount of shit Naruto is willing to forgive is ridiculous and sorta speaks volumes about his regard for human life.
He's nowhere near as bad as Sasuke but goddamn is he an irrational person.
There's being 12 and shy about a crush and then there's the stalker type of love that was Hinata's characterization.
Actually why did Naruto liked Sakura? Was that ever explained besides him finding her pretty? I honestly can't remember.
He's nowhere near as bad as Sasuke but goddamn is he an irrational person.
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I'm having trouble recalling a crucial moment where her characterization didn't solely revolve around Naruto.It stops when she stops being 12. She grows up a bit, she doesn't see Naruto for about 2 years, and while she's still shy there's nothing stalker about her when she gains a spine.
It's explained in Chapter 3, she wanted acknowledgment, something he could relate to.
I'm having trouble recalling a crucial moment where her characterization didn't solely revolve around Naruto.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that. He did say he liked her before that, so it did start with ''I think she is pretty''.It's explained in Chapter 3, she wanted acknowledgment, something he could relate to.
There's being 12 and shy about a crush and then there's the stalker type of love that was Hinata's characterization.
Arguably the amount of shit Naruto is willing to forgive is ridiculous and sorta speaks volumes about his regard for human life.
He's nowhere near as bad as Sasuke but goddamn is he an irrational person. The romances of the series are generally poorly written. What happened when the series ended was hilarious:
If we only look to canon, then, the Chuunin Exams. Was all about proving herself to her family. Yes, Naruto cheered her on but that's more Naruto's characterization now being about her, innit?I'm having trouble recalling a crucial moment where her characterization didn't solely revolve around Naruto.
...the Chunin Exams?
The one arc this place never stops fellating about? It's the Dragon Ball of Naruto here.
You mean the fight where Naruto yelled at her from the sidelines which gave her the motivation to fight after 8 minutes of her being roasted by Neji, followed by her literally quoting Naruto in the middle of the fight.?If we only look to canon, then, the Chuunin Exams. Was all about proving herself to her family. Yes, Naruto cheered her on but that's more Naruto's characterization now being about her, innit?
You mean the fight where Naruto yelled at her from the sidelines which gave her the motivation to fight after 8 minutes of her being roasted by Neji, followed by her literally quoting Naruto in the middle of the fight.?
If we only look to canon, then, the Chuunin Exams. Was all about proving herself to her family. Yes, Naruto cheered her on but that's more Naruto's characterization now being about her, innit?
Yes, it's bad that she's so weak in terms of characterization that hey, Naruto of all people saying a couple lines is enough to fix everything. Like there's seriously no depth to their relationship because of how little screentime she actually gets and how little of that screentime is spent establishing Hinata as anything more than "Shy girl who loves Naruto." Like are you genuinely going to argue that their relationship has depth when it took a literal hallucination to make Naruto even acknowledge their history.Yeah, I mean the fight where Hinata physically and metaphorically struggled with her insecurities as a ninja and the fucked-up politics of her clan.
Well I guess Naruto says some things so obviously there's no character there.
Hinata's only saving grace is that she's barely in the manga and that she's not Sakura. Kishi should never have bothered with any romance shit when he knows full well he can't write it. Oda and Toriyama knew the deal on how to handle that shit.
That said the meltdowns after the final chapter were glorious, and Kishi could have redeemed himself if Sakura actually got cucked by Karin.
Konan is passable, if her character didn't revolve around Nagato she could be good.Cause she's not Sakura. She's not the greatest female character in the series, that's Konan, she got a nice arc of character growth so pretty much the opposite of Sakura.
It really is saddening. :(The wiki is so sad. Like so much of the shit she does is apparently filler
Yes, it's bad that she's so weak in terms of characterization that hey, Naruto of all people saying a couple lines is enough to fix everything. Like there's seriously no depth to their relationship because of how little screentime she actually gets and how little of that screentime is spent establishing Hinata as anything more than "Shy girl who loves Naruto." Like are you genuinely going to argue that their relationship has depth when it took a literal hallucination to make Naruto even acknowledge their history.