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I want to watch The Clone Wars but I don't want to watch the bad episodes, what do I do.
- Thread starter SolVanderlyn
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There's this one posted on reddit.
A few posters recommended some episodes worth watching that the guide says to skip, but I'm almost finishing watching just the "must watch" and "Maul arc" episodes and I feel pretty good with what I've seen so far. Personally I'm not a fan of the art direction in Rebels and I just want to get it over with it even though it has actually gotten pretty good.
In addition to the must watch/Maul episodes, I would definitely watch the Mandalore episodes.
Cool, thanks.
And I agree on the artstyle. Something about the lightsabers in this one bothers me.
The artstyle is heavily based on old OT concept art. Its hit and miss.
You mean the one with a blaster built into it? I think you'll really enjoy the season 2 finale.
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I watched all of Rebels up to Season 3 and really liked it all so far. There are some humdrum episodes, but nothing ever reaches the lows of some of those early Clone Wars eps to me. Rebels also tells a continuous story, so watching them all helps.
I've seen the whole show and still hate it. Just looks clunky.
Shit I forgot they get rid of it. Yes, I was very happy when they did that.
Reminder that in Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter, Lincoln's axe has a gun in the handle
Watching S2 now:
Holocron Heist - These episodes were fine - entertaining enough in the moment but also completely forgettable (I watched them a few days ago and had to look up their plots on Wookiepedia just now because I couldn't remember anything about them)
Geonosis Arc - I actually thought this was the best arc of the series so far - a good mix of action and character moments . The battle nun continues to be cool
Grevious Arc - The first episode was kind of whatever (I feel like I've seen that exact episode like 4 times already) but the second one was a lot more interesting with the contrast between the deserter clone and Rex
Holocron Heist - These episodes were fine - entertaining enough in the moment but also completely forgettable (I watched them a few days ago and had to look up their plots on Wookiepedia just now because I couldn't remember anything about them)
Geonosis Arc - I actually thought this was the best arc of the series so far - a good mix of action and character moments . The battle nun continues to be cool
Grevious Arc - The first episode was kind of whatever (I feel like I've seen that exact episode like 4 times already) but the second one was a lot more interesting with the contrast between the deserter clone and Rex
There's highlights on utube, just find the lightsaber battles and read about the rest on wiki like me!
Glad to hear you're continuing on with this! Coincidentally (or maybe not), I actually found the Geonosis arc to be the first "good" one as well.
The reason most people think this series is good has to do with a lot more than just lightsaber battles. Reading wiki articles is not a good way to experience any tv series.
Deathwatch arc - The politics were fairly interesting here, I suppose. Obi Wan's girlfriend was okay. The darksaber just appeared on The Mandalorian finale, so it was interesting to see it pop up so soon on this.
Bounty Hunters - The Seven Samurai episode. Twas fine. I liked the turtle men.
Zillo Beast arc - Poor Zillo Beast :(
Death Trap arc - Young Boba is surprisingly badass (and Aurra Sing is pretty cool too) and I actually didn't hate the cadets. Also, Plo Koon cemented himself as the best jedi because he actually uses the force in ways that make sense, like using force pull on the person he's chasing instead of just letting them get away like every other jedi involved in a chase sequence (which happens in like every episode). Also, R2-D2 is cool
Overall season 2 was a pretty decent step up from season 1 - I felt engaged by a good number of the episodes and I'm starting to feel a bit like I get why people like the show so much.
Bounty Hunters - The Seven Samurai episode. Twas fine. I liked the turtle men.
Zillo Beast arc - Poor Zillo Beast :(
Death Trap arc - Young Boba is surprisingly badass (and Aurra Sing is pretty cool too) and I actually didn't hate the cadets. Also, Plo Koon cemented himself as the best jedi because he actually uses the force in ways that make sense, like using force pull on the person he's chasing instead of just letting them get away like every other jedi involved in a chase sequence (which happens in like every episode). Also, R2-D2 is cool
Overall season 2 was a pretty decent step up from season 1 - I felt engaged by a good number of the episodes and I'm starting to feel a bit like I get why people like the show so much.
Hilt looks a bit clunky on the show but the replica at Disney World looks really cool imo.
It really does get better and better. I was always impressed by the show's ability to make minor characters like Boba Fett and Plo Koon actually interesting. And somehow a Godzilla homage worked in the Star Wars universe.
Also, I don't know why, but in the episode where they're escorting Satine,
when Anakin just straight up murders that guy... there's something about the little interaction that Obi-Wan and Anakin have afterward, the "Anakin..." "what?" that is just hilarious to me.
One thing that's surprised me about the show so far is how it hardly ever (if at all) shows Anakin's dark side (like when he killed the Sand People in AOTC) - he's mostly just portrayed as a good natured maverick who does stuff that's technically against the rules but isn't really - that - bad all things considered.
It's definitely done more, uh, subtly than the prequel films. But there is an increasing darkness to him as the series progresses.
I'll atleast give it credit for being one of the more original lightsaber designs weve gotten.
Sorry but I have to laugh at the Mortis arc being optional. It's literally the one arc that should be mandatory viewing alongside the Grievous eps between AOTC and ROTS.
Watch all highlighted recommended episodes AND the "Honorable Mentions" episodes. Skip the episodes that aren't marked at all. Also I'd recommend skipping the pilot movie, just know Anakin is given an apprentice named Ahsoka (The orange alien girl).
Don't worry about chronological order. Just watch it in the release order using this to skip the not-good stuff. The short answer as to "why" is that it's an anthology series. Every 3-4 episodes is a completely different story with completely different characters. Eventually many of them interweave. Some are sequels to others. Some are prequels to others. That's where the chronological order gets weird, but seriously don't worry about it. It all makes sense if you just watch it this way imo.
I was really excited when I first saw Ezra's lightsaber, but I always like the weird ones. I think it was cool because it wasn't immediately recognizable as one, like how Kanan wore his in two parts.
Then once it gets destroyed and they've joined the Rebellion, both he and Kanan just carry regular lightsabers in the open, because they're no longer trying to hide. Plus, Ezra got better at using it if the whole "his had a blaster because he was bad at deflecting bolts" thing is true.
It's not optional. As I always say every time I post this image, the "honorable mentions" should also be watched.
I find it hilarious that all the media EXCEPT the movies has done a great job at utilizing the full lore
Someone should make a infographic version of the BDS thread. They put a lot of work into it and I think include every actual major arc.
I think the existing Clone Wars infographic is fine if it was edited a bit and included season 6.
It doesn't. It omits several arcs from that image guide that are marked as either "required" or "honorable mention", as BDS' stated focus was to include as few arcs as possible/only focus on those they found mandatory for the 'primary' story.
Yeah, that is really it. Just nobody ever bothers to make a new edit of it.
Fair enough. I kinda figured that the "primary story" is just what people wanted as casual viewers coming into these shows, but y'all right in that just because it isn't super relevant to the canon doesn't mean it's not fantastic storytelling worth watching.
Waiting 3-4 (?) whole seasons to start bringing that in is a weird choice. Though I guess they had planned for more episodes than they ended up getting, so it's not like they got to fully realize their original goal either.
It's a tragedy that the Utapau arc (specifically the conversation about Asokha) may never be finished. It's a great piece of Anakin's fall.
It's not about waiting, his darkness is increasingly ramped up such that it's organic. Anakin's big problem is he wants to save everyone, but that's impossible and he can't let go or accept that.
Not technically confirmed, but seemingly unlikely. We know that the Bad Batch and Siege of Mandalore arcs are in but the third is currently a question mark. Probably Ashoka's Walkabout judging from the previews.
I just watched all of season 1 and loved it so seeing a list that says only watch 4 episodes baffles me.
Their priority was, I think, actually making Anakin a good character first and foremost, which included making him likable. Your interpretation of him of a bit of a maverick is I think exactly what they were going for before they seeped the darkness in. But yeah, they designed it as an 8 episode series and spread his arc over that plan. I don't think they ever expected Lucas to sell the company in the middle and get cut off, since it was a pet project that Lucas was personally funneling millions into.
I agree. All of the arcs that don't get finished is a true disappointment. Especially since this one, and several others, are so close to completion, with voice work done even.
As a heads up though, you should put this post under a spoiler tag, especially considering this thread is for people who haven't watched the series before/are working their way through it. It should not be watched before season 5 (at minimum).
Not unless the episode order has expanded since they originally announced it. The announcement was for a bittersweetly small order of 12 episodes. The arcs are Bad Batch, Ahsoka's walkabout, and Siege of Mandalore.
But I would love to see Crystal Crisis on Utapau and Son of Dathomir at minimum finished as well... I just doubt it will happen. The Boba Fett/Cad Bane story also was in a similar state and would be cool to see -- all three of these arcs were in the same state as Bad Batch, which is being properly finished. Of course... that would be 12 extra episodes on their own.
You're not everyone. People have different tastes. And a lot of the episodes that recommends to skip, especially in the early seasons, have weaker plotting and/or are centered around characters most people don't care about/are more kid-targetting. Stuff like Jar Jar, droids, and Stinky the Hutt. If people finish the series and really enjoy it, they can always go back and watch the episodes they missed. But forced to watch everything, most people fall off the boat before they get to the good stuff, at least in my experience. Almost everyone I've seen use the guide actually grows to appreciate the show.
This scene right here is all the set up they need for the Obi-Wan series.
Good lord, it's amazing.
I'm going to give this show a try too soon. With these viewing guides it should be easy to skip the unnecessary stuff. I also randomly started watching the Droid Tales animated series. Not just a silly kids show to my surprise, it has a lot of funny jokes.
Started watching this series thanks to this thread, and just saw the final episode of season 5.
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So thanks for this thread, the Clone Wars series has really enhanced my enjoyment of the franchise.
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Ahsoka framed arc was excellent overall but the final episode totally blew me away. Maybe the most affecting moment for me in star wars since the original trilogy, or at all. Really makes you wonder how SW history would have changed if the order hadn't fucked up so spectacularly and Ahsoka had stayed by Anakin's side. Maybe they would have both turned, maybe she could have prevented his fall. Anyway, it was pretty tragic to watch, and I thought they really nailed the end of that arc.
So thanks for this thread, the Clone Wars series has really enhanced my enjoyment of the franchise.
Glad to see another happy convert! Totally agree. The end of Season 5 was so exceptionally strong in general, but that season finale really brought the whole thing home. The next arc at the start of season 6 is also A+ imo.
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I think my favorite set of episodes were the Yoda mini-adventures at the end of Season 6. Not something that can carry a show, but such a perfect addendum to the universe, and one of the only times Yoda is in the spotlight as a protagonist.
The vision where he sees his ideal world and it's just all of his old friends living peacefully at the Jedi Temple, Qui-gon is alive, and Dooku never turned was a real gut punch. Especially these lines, after Yoda sees Dooku and ignites his lightsaber before Dooku greats him cheerfully:
Dooku: "Oh, Master Yoda! The adventures we had together!"
Yoda drops his guard and nods.
Yoda: "Yes... I remember."
It's the only hint we ever get towards that relationship and it shows that Yoda has lost a lot as well.
Dooku: "Oh, Master Yoda! The adventures we had together!"
Yoda drops his guard and nods.
Yoda: "Yes... I remember."
It's the only hint we ever get towards that relationship and it shows that Yoda has lost a lot as well.
So I've finished Clone Wars last night (and fucking loved it!)
Should I wait patiently for season 7 and the watch Rebels or should I just bite the bullet, watch Rebels and then watch S7 between or after Rebels?
Should I wait patiently for season 7 and the watch Rebels or should I just bite the bullet, watch Rebels and then watch S7 between or after Rebels?
It was definitely, unintentionally, a great place to end the series considering the sudden cancellation. It worked out well.
At this point I'd wait for season 7 since it's so close. While obviously Rebels more or less worked without it, I have to imagine season 7 will make certain moments more resonant.
For me at least...
- It was way too kid-targeting. Early episodes established a world where the Empire really didn't feel like a threat even though the story kinda wanted them to be. They also weren't allowed to show deaths on screen or even say the words "die" or "kill" IIRC.
- The plotlines are too simplistic due to most of the stories being only one episode/20 minutes, which means they aren't allowed to be very complex, nor do they have any time to really develop the characters. Not coincidentally, just about all of the best episodes are the two parter 40 minute stories... of which there are very few in the first two seasons.
- None of the primary characters are remotely well developed until season 3. I really didn't care about any of them early on bar Hera, who was inherently likable.
- Zeb especially is just a completely nothing character until a late season 2 episode, where he finally gets SOMETHING... but he doesn't get much more than that the entire rest of the series.
- It's kind of funny that Sabine actually gets literally nothing for the first two seasons, even less developed than Zeb essentially, and then they over-corrected and made her the most developed character on the show in season 3. That isn't a negative, just weird and whiplashy... I actually do look forward to a new show where she is a main protagonist, because she's actually a good character at this point.
- Ezra never became, at least for me, a super interesting or likable protagonist. He's incredibly generic and early on especially was a poster child for the annoying kid trope.
The series was mostly elevated by returning characters from Clone Wars, all of who we had a greater connection to and were better developed. Like, every time one of them showed up it instantly became more interesting (and often, slightly darker). Though there were still a couple returning characters that I feel like were too sparsely used considering they brought them back... a certain former-Sith being the main one I'm talking about. I mean, they brought him back, implied there would be some big story with him, and then only featured him in like 4 episodes, I believe? It kinda came across as 'why bother?' Of course, I still enjoyed the end of it.
Overall I feel like Rebels season 3 and 4 were a better version of the show than 1 and 2 -- Thrawn was a good consistent antagonist, they actually focused on developing the characters, there were many stories that were allowed to be more than one episode... And maybe if it had been like that from the beginning my opinion of the series would be a bit higher. But that's only half the series! Even at that point, I still felt the child-lock was on in comparison to Clone Wars.
At this point wait for season 7. The final arc in season 7 is going to tie into Rebels, so you'll get more out of it that way.