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I think most people will be pleasantly surprised by how good Pokemon 8 ends up looking
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You're right, the issue i took with lets go wasnt the artstyle but the camera. If the camera was adjustable and we got something that moved like those cutscenes, it wouldve increased the overall perception.OBJECTION: POKEMON LET'S GO PIKACHU/EEVEE ALREADY LOOKS GOOD.
I mean, I guess some didn't like that they went back to a semi-deformed artstyle. But c'mon people. This is the first ever HD, 3D re-imagining of a game that originally released 20 years ago in 8-bit. And frankly it looks gorgeous.
I don't think these are the types of statements you should be making unless you seen it yourself.
I skipped some, good to know. I'm really curious how it will look. First HD mainline Pokemon game.
I don't think Town looks very good, honestly. I actually think Let's Go is a better-looking game.
This! I'd like some better animations and a fully 3D World with a free camera, but aside from that, LGPE looks awesome.OBJECTION: POKEMON LET'S GO PIKACHU/EEVEE ALREADY LOOKS GOOD.
I mean, I guess some didn't like that they went back to a semi-deformed artstyle. But c'mon people. This is the first ever HD, 3D re-imagining of a game that originally released 20 years ago in 8-bit. And frankly it looks gorgeous.
Town already kinda looks like Pokémon let's go but with different shading. I guess they're already reusing that tech
This looks pretty good to me, a little too bland perhaps. A mix of this and the outlined models seen in Town might be nice.OBJECTION: POKEMON LET'S GO PIKACHU/EEVEE ALREADY LOOKS GOOD.
I mean, I guess some didn't like that they went back to a semi-deformed artstyle. But c'mon people. This is the first ever HD, 3D re-imagining of a game that originally released 20 years ago in 8-bit. And frankly it looks gorgeous.
because it's the "most" Game Freak has done with 3D environment design. hard to expect more when the most is this
the best thing I can say about Let's Go is that it's clean. but I hate the art, and I hate the level design.
"but it's the same as the original games!"
exactly
Rune Factory 4 Special is considered chibi-style for some players, and they loved it.
There is nothing wrong with chibi proportions. As long as gameplay is solid, everything is fine.
I doubt it will be any different from the handheld games. It will look and feel like a handheld game that functions on Switch. The only way they would pleasantly surprise me is if the new game doesn't reminisce over the design they've used for 20 years.
Well the problem I see here is that Sun/Moon are what people should see as a base to what we can expect from Gen 8, not Lets Go.
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I need to come to terms with the fact that I'll never get a pokemon game with a fleshed out style and larger environments. At least not one that I have in my head. Part of the reason I love Pokken Tournament is the way the stages look. Neos City actually looks like a CITY instead of 7 buildings next to each other. I would absolutely love a Pokemon game that looks like Pokken's stages. Large scale and expanded upon. i adore the actual world in Pokemon and I really want it to be expanded on. This art style is so appealing to me and my dream game is to get a mainline game like this. Im not saying open world, but I do want the region you're on an Adventure in to feel like you're actually exploring it.
Gen 8 is probably gonna look like Lets Go which should be fine as long as its not a soulless remake. The art style of Lets Go isnt the problem, its how there's almost nothing unique or interesting about this rendition of Kanto. I was hoping since its a remake and that they went away with the grid based locations in gen 7, they could have more lively and interesting routes, but its just a grid again.
I really want a greater sense of scale and more interesting environments to go through. The art style of Pokemon is rather consistent. I don't think Gen 8 will be as restrained as lets go so I bet itll be pretty good.
Town looks terrible.
Gen 8 is probably gonna look like Lets Go which should be fine as long as its not a soulless remake. The art style of Lets Go isnt the problem, its how there's almost nothing unique or interesting about this rendition of Kanto. I was hoping since its a remake and that they went away with the grid based locations in gen 7, they could have more lively and interesting routes, but its just a grid again.
I really want a greater sense of scale and more interesting environments to go through. The art style of Pokemon is rather consistent. I don't think Gen 8 will be as restrained as lets go so I bet itll be pretty good.
Town looks terrible.
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Sure, but there were several games on the 3DS that looked and performed better.
Plus Let's Go looks bland as hell
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Let's Go looks pretty (and was, as the OP points out, their first game on the new hardware).
I wouldn't say Town is anything special at all when Ultimate Ninja Storm, NNK 2, GBF Re:Link or the DBZ RPG project exist (and ignoring Arc Sys games due to their specialized 2D perspective tricks employed), but part of that comes down to Nintendo with the hardware provided.
The bigger problem with Town is the continued chibi proportions.
The bigger problem with Town is the continued chibi proportions.
Same engine, same system just new pokemon and a region.
Or do you mean the meltdowns? Cause you an check any lets go thread for that
Sure, in a technical sense I can believe it, but I would absolutely despise it if it retains the chibi proportions in
Town reminds me of Fantasy Life for the 3DS. Also if that's our basis then it looks like Let's Go Pokemon. Perfectly fine with that.
You do you but in my view Let's Go lacks any kind of detail and "life" for a game on an HD console.
I wouldn't say Town is anything special at all when Ultimate Ninja Storm, NNK 2, GBF Re:Link or the DBZ RPG project exist (and ignoring Arc Sys games due to their specialized 2D perspective tricks employed), but part of that comes down to Nintendo with the hardware provided.
The bigger problem with Town is the continued chibi proportions.
I think since DQXI is gonna be on switch, its definitely possible to get this sense of scale with Pokemon.
Let's Go's lighting is so unbearably awful that it makes the game look terrible. Those shadows are incredibly low res as well as being completely non-dynamic.
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i am utterly baffled by you nintendo fans, why are you guys so acceptance? why do you set the bare so low especially when it comes to pokemon? why do you not demand pokemon company to actually put some effort into these games?
the switch has proved times and times again it can run some demanding looking games, hell why can't this company create a core RPG pokemon game with pokemon tekken graphics, are you gonna argue with me it's not possible on switch?
what are you so afraid of? is brand loyalty blinding you that much? can somebody explain to me?
the switch has proved times and times again it can run some demanding looking games, hell why can't this company create a core RPG pokemon game with pokemon tekken graphics, are you gonna argue with me it's not possible on switch?
what are you so afraid of? is brand loyalty blinding you that much? can somebody explain to me?
Nothing about Let's Go looks good in my opinion.
Everything looks sort of like plastic, the world feels like a diorama due to its simplistic design and lack of camera controls. It's bland as hell, the lighting is as basic as it gets and it is criminally lacking in detail. The animations are awful and personally, the chibi designs are trash fire and even the battles are boring-looking. It reminds me too much of Pokémon Go in terms of lighting, and I loathed that from day 0 as well. I want/need Pokémon to build up from what SM created, not go back to when the world's design was grid based and be stuck with these lame visuals. I need an interesting and complex world to explore. I need something that isn't just a 3DS game upscaled, visually. Ugh.
Everything looks sort of like plastic, the world feels like a diorama due to its simplistic design and lack of camera controls. It's bland as hell, the lighting is as basic as it gets and it is criminally lacking in detail. The animations are awful and personally, the chibi designs are trash fire and even the battles are boring-looking. It reminds me too much of Pokémon Go in terms of lighting, and I loathed that from day 0 as well. I want/need Pokémon to build up from what SM created, not go back to when the world's design was grid based and be stuck with these lame visuals. I need an interesting and complex world to explore. I need something that isn't just a 3DS game upscaled, visually. Ugh.
My hype is at 0 and it will take a lot to regain it.
Also Let's Go looks like an HD remastered 3DS game. We can do better.
Also Let's Go looks like an HD remastered 3DS game. We can do better.
I think major Pokemon games typically look really impressive for their hardware. It sounds silly but every major new generation is nothing to scoff at visually, they're just typically held back by the platform, and Sun and Moon were no exception. They were visually full of detail while still being bright and colourful. It's easy to forget that Let's Go are the first mainline games released at anything higher than 400x240 resolution. I also think they purposefully went with a minimalist visual style for Let's Go because it's a rather strict remake of the original Gen 1 games that takes few liberties in world design and is intended to tie into Pokemon GO.
However I also think that people expecting something like Dragon Quest 11 will be let down. Game Freak are unlikely to drastically shake up the presentation to that degree. I realistically expect something akin to Sun and Moon but with less flat backgrounds as they're more obvious at higher resolution, and perhaps more work put into the transition between battle and world travel. I am hopeful we see slightly more open route design and with that a lower angle camera long term though.
I would argue that a game of Pokemons scope is always going to be constrained by the demands of having over 800 different Pokemon be in that world though. It's why as much as I love the following Pokemon concept, I understand why it's something that's only been done in a couple of games, for example.
However I also think that people expecting something like Dragon Quest 11 will be let down. Game Freak are unlikely to drastically shake up the presentation to that degree. I realistically expect something akin to Sun and Moon but with less flat backgrounds as they're more obvious at higher resolution, and perhaps more work put into the transition between battle and world travel. I am hopeful we see slightly more open route design and with that a lower angle camera long term though.
I've played these games for 20 years and consistently enjoyed them. I have issues with Game Freak that I express openly (namely their refusal to make more interesting long term post-game content like they used to), but visual fidelity isn't really a focus for me.
I would argue that a game of Pokemons scope is always going to be constrained by the demands of having over 800 different Pokemon be in that world though. It's why as much as I love the following Pokemon concept, I understand why it's something that's only been done in a couple of games, for example.
What truly saddens me is that yokai watch is a better looking franchise overall,.GF could make Pokemon look as good as that but I have no faith they'll do it. I'll play Pokemon 8 anyway, but I'm not expecting anything wonderful graphically speaking.
TOWN (working title)™ looks pretty good and it gives me hope for a Pokémon game with a similar charm. I think Let's Go looked okay, but it was a bit to clean for my taste, it lacked the charm I see in the reveal trailer for TOWN (working title)™.
I don't think Town looks that good. Yokai Watch 4 is what Pokemon should be aiming for visually, but they won't, sadly.
and yet there are many games that out do Game Freak's 3DS game.
You mean this?
That is very similar to this, in terms of human anatomy proportions:
But a true chibi look would be this:
Not in comparison to where the rest of the industry is with anime styled games, environments, character models and more.
People's emotions and nostalgia are wrapped up in Pokémon, I get it, but the main line games have never been visually impressive and I'm not expecting GameFreak to leapfrog their strange "a generation behind" development status in the biz with Gen 8.
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