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I still cant get over how ridiculous the ps5 ssd space limitations are
- Thread starter Chance Hale
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It's a joke. 500gb was arguably on the small side when PS4 launched and we had games hovering around the 50gb mark. And here we are 7 years later. File size of individual games has tripled in some cases and we can't even store them on external storage.
I'm gonna need like a 4/5tb external for all my PS4 games, and captures. God knows what it's gonna be like once the PS5 has a lot of games in its library.
If only!
If only!
SSD upgrade possibilities needs to be addressed within the first half of 2021 and preferably activated in that time-frame as well.
Yeah this is problematic when you play a bunch of Multiplayer games and have multiple single player games on the go at the same time.
I have a few groups that all play different things COD, Warzone, Apex, Fortnite, Wreckfest, Multiple Fighting games, RDR 2 Online, GTAV Online, A Way Out, Fifa. Couple that with the single player stuff I'm currently playing Nier Automata, Control, Dishonored 2, Hitman, Monster Hunter World and it's pretty easy to run out of space.
I've got that and a Series X and, touch wood, it's not been an issue. Probably because I've got most of my PS4 titles on an external HDD and the previous generation got me into the habit of deleting a game when I was certain I'd finished playing it on my PS4/XB1.
I remember jim ryan mentioning in an interview this isn't an issue for alot of people, which worries me they don't take it as priority. Maybe we get lucky and hear something today.
Not exactly, PS4 games installed on an external add to the internal other storage as well. If you disconnect your external drive and then browse the internal storage it actually temporarily breaks them out from other storage so you can see how much each externally installed game is using on the internal (it varies between maybe 10MB at the smallest and 1GB at the largest per game).
If the PS5 was my primary console, that wouldn't be nearly enough. Even as secondary to my Series X, it's not great.
Could be worse, could act like an Apple product and charge you 300-400% premium for space improvements. At least we can fit a few games on it.
I'm down to my last 200GB, but honestly I could easily free up another 200GB and still have everything I'd want to play for the next month.
I'm afraid of buying external storage for my ps5 while there's so many reported cases of crashes and other issues
Did they patch most of those problems by now? Is there something I should know before I go shopping for a ssd? (or hdd, I don't know if there's a huge difference while playing ps4 games)
Did they patch most of those problems by now? Is there something I should know before I go shopping for a ssd? (or hdd, I don't know if there's a huge difference while playing ps4 games)
It's a momentary phase, in a couple of years this will only be a bad memory, pun intended, and we'll have plenty of space on bigger SSDs.
I had a 20Gb PS3 and yet I still survived and upgraded the HDD later down the road.
I had a 20Gb PS3 and yet I still survived and upgraded the HDD later down the road.
As annoying as it is for us early adopters, in the long-term it will probably be a non-issue.
There's enough space for a good selection of games to be installed at once, and in the future there will be storage upgrades available for those who want it, and hopefully file compression makes things more manageable.
Hasn't bothered me too much so far. Just a minor annoyance that I can't keep all of my games installed, but I can live with it.
There's enough space for a good selection of games to be installed at once, and in the future there will be storage upgrades available for those who want it, and hopefully file compression makes things more manageable.
Hasn't bothered me too much so far. Just a minor annoyance that I can't keep all of my games installed, but I can live with it.
It's ridiculous and I can't see how anyone would say otherwise.
In an age of constant deals, the massive appeal of a digital library, and all the buzz around fast SSDs, it's a damn shame there's no way to expand the poor internal memory, made many times worse since Sony won't allow external cold storage for PS5 games, which is frankly absurd since competition has been doing since launch.
It's another area where MS is much better served with a bigger (and expandable) SSD, with no penalty to loading times so far, plus cold storage support.
Having Spiderman/Miles Morales/Astrobot for my kid, my 2 multiplayer games (COD//Fifa), a racing game (Dirt5) and my story game (Valhalla), that's it for storage. Of those, the only one I can comfortably delete after completing is Valhalla. It's a damn hard balancing act and honestly probably the one thing that makes me question my purchase.
In an age of constant deals, the massive appeal of a digital library, and all the buzz around fast SSDs, it's a damn shame there's no way to expand the poor internal memory, made many times worse since Sony won't allow external cold storage for PS5 games, which is frankly absurd since competition has been doing since launch.
It's another area where MS is much better served with a bigger (and expandable) SSD, with no penalty to loading times so far, plus cold storage support.
Having Spiderman/Miles Morales/Astrobot for my kid, my 2 multiplayer games (COD//Fifa), a racing game (Dirt5) and my story game (Valhalla), that's it for storage. Of those, the only one I can comfortably delete after completing is Valhalla. It's a damn hard balancing act and honestly probably the one thing that makes me question my purchase.
Sony should release those compatibility lists asap.
I personally don't have any problems with the size of the ssd. But i also only install games i want to play.
With even big downloads taking only a few minutes to finish i don't need more space in the near - medium future.
I personally don't have any problems with the size of the ssd. But i also only install games i want to play.
With even big downloads taking only a few minutes to finish i don't need more space in the near - medium future.
This is why I really want game-streaming to take off.
Hundreds of games, zero installs, and no worries about storage space whatsoever.
Unfortunately it seems like we aren't there yet, either in terms of infrastructure, or peoples attitudes towards game-streaming itself.
Shame, because I get the feeling this generation is going to end up limping over the finish line, mostly due to storage issues.
Hundreds of games, zero installs, and no worries about storage space whatsoever.
Unfortunately it seems like we aren't there yet, either in terms of infrastructure, or peoples attitudes towards game-streaming itself.
Shame, because I get the feeling this generation is going to end up limping over the finish line, mostly due to storage issues.
Half an hour every few weeks really doesn't sound like a huge deal to me.
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Nothing about games is a big deal can still be annoying tho
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You may think its ridiculous but you do need to be realistic about the situation. They've chosen to use cutting edge storage technology - and whether or not that was the right decision versus going with last generation NVME storage like the Xbox remains to be seen - but the reality is that cutting edge is expensive.
We know the expansion slot is there, we know there are NVME drives out there which should meet the minimum specs so this is largely going to be a moot point in a few months time. Yes it's inconvenient now but I think I'd rather take this storage management pain now so that we can see how the benefits of having this super fast storage play out over the course of this generation. It's just a matter of being patient while they sort out enabling it (also something something global pandemic).
I think we expected to be able to use the SSD expansion bay or to be able to store PS5 games on external drives.
I'm fine with limited on-board storage but they need to open up the two optional expansion methods that we all just assumed we'd be doing.
Personally, i havnt had to delete anything myself yet to make space, but i havnt really played that many games on my PS5 either. I agree that the internal space on the PS5 can quickly be filled up though, so hopefully the M2-drives for PS5 will be available soon. I think that will solve much of the space issue.
If they have the same shit going on as on PS4 where I couldn't install a 4,5GB patch with 120GB of free disk space than it's beyond ridiculous.
Yeah it's annoying, I'm constantly having to rearrange / delete / reinstall games. I tend to jump around between multiple games, which exacerbates the issue. However with my 1TB SSD on PC I've got 15+ games installed with room to spare, whereas on PS5 I'm lucky if I can squeeze 5 games on there.
I don't have an issue so far and the download speeds are so fast that I can delete and download anytime. I have now:
- Sackboy
- Valhalla
- Legion
- Astro
- Allstar
- Hitman 3
- FIFA 21
- Spider-Man remastered
- Miles Morales
I don't have a PS5 yet mind you but I don't really find this a bad thing.
I personally find this encourages me to beat the games I have installed rather than have a big abyss of games that make me think a lot of what to play.
I personally find this encourages me to beat the games I have installed rather than have a big abyss of games that make me think a lot of what to play.
I'm dealing with a 360GB Xbox Series S my dude. lol
I do use a 480GB external SSD drive though. I'm sure Sony will release a update to support cold storage.
I do use a 480GB external SSD drive though. I'm sure Sony will release a update to support cold storage.
The 'other' space, as others have said, is used by the PS4 games installed on your PS5 internal SSD. It seems to be about 20% of the install size of the game roughly, for example RDR2 is 110gb on the SSD and takes about 22gb of 'other' space too on top of that.
Ideally, they would have had M.2 expansion available at launch and the ability to move games (not run) to the external HDD.
However, it has only been a few months since launch. I feel like PS4 took years to support an external HDD.
I don't think the M.2 would be overly difficult for them to implement, it is probably more the case that creating a QVL with the compatible drives takes time or they don't feel it is worth it with so few drives passing their internal spec requirements.
However, it has only been a few months since launch. I feel like PS4 took years to support an external HDD.
I don't think the M.2 would be overly difficult for them to implement, it is probably more the case that creating a QVL with the compatible drives takes time or they don't feel it is worth it with so few drives passing their internal spec requirements.
It's really annoying now but it'll get better. PS5 games should take up less space, both because the games themselves are smaller and they produce no "other" data, and when the external storage slot gets enabled. I think what's there will be perfectly fine for a vast majority of people.
This and the massive size is why I am not interested in PS5 until the first revision.
What happened to the idea of letting you install only parts of games? I can do it on Xbox although the implementation isn't great; not all games have it and often, like on Gears 5, I have to install everything and then delete chunks from the game's menu, so you still need to clear space in the first place.
What happened to the idea of letting you install only parts of games? I can do it on Xbox although the implementation isn't great; not all games have it and often, like on Gears 5, I have to install everything and then delete chunks from the game's menu, so you still need to clear space in the first place.
got an update for black ops. Now it's 188gb
i got a seagate ssd on both my serie x. Internal is already full but I have a lot of games
on ps5 i have a dozen which isn't bad but it's painful to see ONE game taking 188/667gb of storage. It's more than 1/4 of the total storage for a single game. That's insane. I'll finish the SP and delete it. It's ridiculous. And Sony need to release ASAP a solution for this as well
i got a seagate ssd on both my serie x. Internal is already full but I have a lot of games
on ps5 i have a dozen which isn't bad but it's painful to see ONE game taking 188/667gb of storage. It's more than 1/4 of the total storage for a single game. That's insane. I'll finish the SP and delete it. It's ridiculous. And Sony need to release ASAP a solution for this as well
Total non issue for me. I have a 2TB external SSD for PS4 games. There's tons of space left on the internal. By the time it does become an issue, the NVME expansion slot will be available.
Its ludicrous that PS5 still has no way to cold storage games. Xbox at least launched with that so you could shuffle stuff around if you need, can't even do that on PS5. Delete or nothing.
Its a triple whammy on PS5 because of the way saves, trophies, progression, etc is done. Virtually every game has seperate downloads for the PS4 and PS5 editions, so you can't just switch between the two as you feel like.
Right now its not horrible, but as more and more games get PS5 patches it creates an interesting dilema: do you just play the PS4 version so you can play off external drives if you need, or do you play the PS5 version knowing if you start running out of space, you gotta delete your game and reinstall it later...
Its a triple whammy on PS5 because of the way saves, trophies, progression, etc is done. Virtually every game has seperate downloads for the PS4 and PS5 editions, so you can't just switch between the two as you feel like.
Right now its not horrible, but as more and more games get PS5 patches it creates an interesting dilema: do you just play the PS4 version so you can play off external drives if you need, or do you play the PS5 version knowing if you start running out of space, you gotta delete your game and reinstall it later...
Sony themselves should have had an m.2 ssd ready to go. Come on dawg, 2 warzones of space with no option to expand is unacceptable.
