Ryuji ends up being a lot different and much better than Yosuke.
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I still can’t believe you can *spoilers* in Persona 5 lol.
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Ryuji ends up being a lot different and much better than Yosuke.
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Well in P3P you can date KEN of all people as FeMC. Not an adult but probably the most fucked up of them all.
You could say this about every social link. They all have a specific appeal/fetish to a specific group.
That's weird because sex wasn't actually depicted, unlike in Riverdale. Also unlike Riverdale, it wasn't statutory rape.
You can't be serious.
Am I being punked.
Is this what you anime fans do to normal people.
People can justify whatever they want to themselves as far as whether they should date a teen or an adult in this game, that's not what I'm addressing. I just take particular issue with Futaba out of all the teenage options because setting her age aside, there are numerous reasons why it's deeply uncomfortable to be pursuing a relationship with her.
Well that's obvious, the game bends over backwards to pander to the fanbase, even if it contradicts the themes the game itself is presenting.
The whole maid and blackmail thing that precedes it is somehow creepier. Did they have a fetish quota for this game?
No, this is what anime does to the brain.
Yeah, I'm not even sure if Ken is 13 yet.
Apparently he is 10-11 in P3.
That'd be fine too, but I don't expect that to ever happen. Just like I never expect mine to happen... because it's Atlus. They somehow only evolve in terms of pandering.
The possibilities alone with what they could do for time management has me wanting it. You can skip classes freely, it's college nobody gives a shit. Probably should make sure your grades don't slip too low though. Rent's a thing! Better make sure you pay those bills. And so on.
Persona 5 shitting on it's themes to pander to the male japanese otaku is par the course.
Also hilarious reaction from the anti spoiler brigade. A game could be hiding it's homophobe agenda among other things and some people would still act irritated to it since it's a "spoiler".
Also hilarious reaction from the anti spoiler brigade. A game could be hiding it's homophobe agenda among other things and some people would still act irritated to it since it's a "spoiler".
The game doesn't get enough shit. The Persona name protects it a lot.
Although Ryuji never gets as bad as Yosuke, it really feels the beginning of P5 is written by an entirely different team. The way Ann is treated specially highlights this.
forcing a sexual abuse victim to pose naked felt specially slimy, even though it ended up not happening
P5 has a lot of good but a whoooooooole lot of awful too
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Persona's whole thing that it flips wildly between being a being a serious drama about real issues and a fun teenage fantasy?
Like, I get the hot for teacher fantasy, where you're presumably supposed to be seeing things through the protagonist's eyes and get to do stuff that you know you can't in real life. But my understanding is that one of the things that makes this kind of troubling in Persona is that it gets us to tries to get us to think seriously about abuse of power dynamics in relationships before it does this.
Like, I get the hot for teacher fantasy, where you're presumably supposed to be seeing things through the protagonist's eyes and get to do stuff that you know you can't in real life. But my understanding is that one of the things that makes this kind of troubling in Persona is that it gets us to tries to get us to think seriously about abuse of power dynamics in relationships before it does this.
Yes we definitely should ban Persona discussion if this is in their games. Thank you for highlighting this.
Got it in one.
If they do a college-set game there's an 100% chance they'll let you date schoolgirls.
So I'm gonna be real, I dated all the older SL ladies and ignored the high schoolers. Like I know the MC is a teenager but I had absolutely no interest in getting into a romantic relationship with a bunch of teenagers. Imagine my surprise come White Day...😰
this right here. what pushes Futaba over the edge for me is the power dynamics are in Joker's favor. aka the player character aka ME and I never noped faster.
Yep, that never crossed my mind... but they would totally do this. I can already hear the "senpai" in my head and I want it to end.
Persona has the most fucked up themes and would be my favorite RPGs if I didn't have to actively ignore half of the bullshit
It's interesting that P5 in Japan has CERO C rating (15+), while for global release it's rated M for Mature.
Now imagine if they make mature games with japanese rating/audience in mind. Probably too degenerate to even make it overseas.
Now imagine if they make mature games with japanese rating/audience in mind. Probably too degenerate to even make it overseas.
A 17 year old girl having sex with an 11 year old boy in Japan would be statutory rape. I'm not sure why you're trying so hard to downplay that fact.
What happens in Persona 5 with Kawakami, and Ohya, Takemi and Chihaya, is not statutory rape.
This is a four-year old game, at this point everyone talks openly about things
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I can't tell if people are being serious or not. It's a game, at the end of the day it's a dam game. It's not real. Don't play if it offends you. There is far worse in anime, movies, music, books etc. Also in the game, you don't have to romance any of them, you can just be friends. If you chose to romance, then maybe it's on you and not the game. Persona presents challenges of morality, maybe we are the ones failing.
Are we not allowed to criticize games? Because I don't get this defense
An RPG that calls the player out on being a degenerate pig would be legit.
Joker is a 16 year old in a relationship with women in the mid to late 20s where sex is implied with varying degrees of subtlety.
Yes or no.
I'm not defending P3 fuck Atlus alot of the times but you are just blatantly defending P5 and trying to shift discussion and it frankly disgusting.
Statuary rape the protag is 16 years of age which is below the 18 age that is the age of consent in Japan pretty much.
Entirely beside the point. Yes. You don't have to do it. Still in the game whether you choose to do it or not and still disgusting all the same. Choosing not to do it dies not magically make it go away or shiekd it from criticism on any level.
And while the relationship itself isn't mandatory, the start of the social link, where you use the fact that you accidentally stunmbke into the fact she has a side-gig as a sex worker to blackmail her into being a Confidant and doing shit for you (whether you actually take advantage of that or not, the blackmail itself still happens), is, and that's already kind of super-messed-up, tbh.
Then you have how Joker's/the Phantom Thieves' whole MO is fighting "corrupt adults" but again, even putting the option for a romantic relationship aside, just how the social link starts, if "corrupt adults" are so bad, where does Joker get off starting a "Confidant relationship" under such pretenses to begin with. Especially after Kamoshida, especially after learning what he was doing to people like Ann and Shiho. And then also later all the stuff that happens in the lead-up to Kaneshiro's Palace as well, making it again pretty clear that blackmail is bad and leads to many bad things just compounding in top of more bad things (no duh)... Unless Joker's the one doing it and taking advantage of people, I guess.
Like, there are layers to this one, and none of them are good.
The entire arc of Kawakimi is wild, and I too struggle to believe that it's real.
But man, P5 went hard in the paint for letting you, a 16 year old boy, have relationships with multiple twenty something women should you so choose. Game is trying to slam dunk the entire concept of male fantasy fulfillment.
But man, P5 went hard in the paint for letting you, a 16 year old boy, have relationships with multiple twenty something women should you so choose. Game is trying to slam dunk the entire concept of male fantasy fulfillment.