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"I, sniper" - You should watch this documentary about the Washington DC killings in 2002
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I remember this pretty well. Probably heard most of the details on GAF at the time.
The murderer-on-the-loose story that was local for me that stands out turned out to be a cop, and he even got paid to look for himself. One of the survivors of that guy was actress Charisma Carpenter.
The murderer-on-the-loose story that was local for me that stands out turned out to be a cop, and he even got paid to look for himself. One of the survivors of that guy was actress Charisma Carpenter.
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Oh absolutely, I agree. I watched it last week and it's a really effective tool.
I cannot believe we are still making movies titled "I, Blank." C'mon folks.
Anyway, I'm interested nonetheless. I grew up in the area during all of this, and it always makes it weird whenever I hear about it. I was so young, in early middle school, and never really grasped the enormity of it. Like, I knew something bad was happening that scared the adults, but it felt like life just kept going, only with paper on the windows. So, the first time I realized it was an event that was known about and remembered nationwide came as such a weird surprise. Even now, as an adult who realizes "of course it was a huge deal" it still seems so strange.
Anyway, I'm interested nonetheless. I grew up in the area during all of this, and it always makes it weird whenever I hear about it. I was so young, in early middle school, and never really grasped the enormity of it. Like, I knew something bad was happening that scared the adults, but it felt like life just kept going, only with paper on the windows. So, the first time I realized it was an event that was known about and remembered nationwide came as such a weird surprise. Even now, as an adult who realizes "of course it was a huge deal" it still seems so strange.
Here in Sweden the documentary is called "Brainwashed: The confessions of a serial killer". Malvo describes the shootings, his relationship with Muhammad and how he found a father figure in him.
Sorry about that, I was hoping that they hadn't done that.
still 40ish mins on the first part, but there are photos and video of a pretty bloody crime scene in the first 20 mins.
FYI its a little hard to understand the tape recordings (which is how a good portion of the story is told) and accents at some points, and the only subtitles are in swedish.
There's footage that shows the aftermath of the shootings. No actual pictures of deceased victims, but there's a lot of blood shown from the crime scenes and descriptions on how the victims were found.
Was in high school at the time. They were caught at a rest area near where I went to high school 😬
If you've never heard the You're Wrong About podcast, do yourself a favor and listen to the four-parter about the DC snipers.
Okay thank you. I can handle that probably because I watch a lot of crime stuff anyway but usually it's edited for TV. Thanks!
Wait, so no English subtitles at all? Eehh I might still try but I can't watch anything anymore without them.
I was a student at University of Maryland at that time, and the shootings were all around us, I remember just expecting their to be one on campus. I remember people running to classes trying not to be a target. Scary shit. Will definitely watch the doc.
I just finished the 15 part Monster podcast about the case which was absolutely enthralling. Anyone who has listened to podcast comment if the documentary is worth seeing?
no :(
i also prefer subtitles on but I'm already invested in it so i gotta keep watching heh
looking into some more and Vice TV was planning on airing this back in June and got delayed to TBD. So unless there is a VPN bypass where I can watch it from another country we'll be out of luck until whenever Vice decides to air it
One of the things that drew my attention when this was going one is the wild theories and warnings. Everyone was looking for a white van or a truck, and avoiding certain buisnesses. People theorizing the locations were a message. People around me were avoiding places, even though there wasn't a sniper shooting within 100's of miles.
Yeah it was crazy how you started seeing white vans with ladders fucking everywhere.
Lived in the DC Metro area; 9/11 for 6th Grade, then this the next year and the anthrax scare in the middle of it all was a crazy amount for us kids to deal with at the same time. I remember all outdoor activities being cancelled, speculation about white vans (which they weren't in,) and it gets brought up with friends from the time frequently enough
A free VPN thing I added to Firefox seemed to work when I chose Sweden as the server. I'm always wary of those though so I didn't really keep it and watch it, it did work though.
Rather annoying it's airing elsewhere and we can't even get a date! Thanks for the confirmation that it's not just me striking out on sources.
My local radio station had a DJ who reported about a car crash that had victims, only to play a song called Crash and Burn, right after... Probably happens more often than not but still freaky.
I was in elementary school right outside DC when this was going on. They put up tarps along the walkway to the portables so no one could see anyone walking to and from them, and we only had indoor recess while it was going on. I was the only kid that still walked to school during it lol
I was able at work to read about this while it happened. I was in Massachusetts and it was in all the big New York and Boston papers but also in the local city newspapers, this was nationwide news in a time when print still mattered, and I followed it the whole time.
I also listened to a podcast I think someone here mentioned that got deep into the background and from there the story gets even crazier.
I don't think I want to watch this doc but anyone not familiar should it's a fascinating story though tragic and kept the country as far as I could tell gripped in fear.
I also listened to a podcast I think someone here mentioned that got deep into the background and from there the story gets even crazier.
I don't think I want to watch this doc but anyone not familiar should it's a fascinating story though tragic and kept the country as far as I could tell gripped in fear.
Lived through this as a college student, and having to walk to an off-campus class past where people had been shot before they caught the guys was more than enough for me. Blue Caprice was a tough watch.
For those in UK/US who interested in this and can't access the link in the OP I can highly recommend the true crime audiobook "Call Me God" on Audible. It's a hard listen but really well told.
"Call Me God is the never-before-told story of the fascinating and turbulent investigation that led to the diabolical and elusive killers' capture; one that pitted protocol against instinct, sacred institutions against individual insight. Told firsthand by those few who had the vision and expertise to solve it, and including a fascinating look into the behavioral, ballistic, forensic, and electronic analysis vital to cracking the case, FBI agent brothers Jim Clemente (former FBI behavioral profiler) and Tim Clemente (former FBI counter-terrorism expert) take us through every facet and flaw of a nationwide manhunt that pressure tested nearly every aspect of law enforcement capabilities—and its glaring vulnerabilities.
Anchored by harrowing accounts from victims, intimate conversations with family members of those deceased, as well as candid accounts from those who knew the perpetrators best, relive the haunting events of the DC Sniper attack and piece together a true crime phenomenon that's impact can still be felt today."
Link: https://www.audible.com/pd/Call-Me-...fcf-90198b687a2f&pf_rd_r=YGFT65MKCHQ5R66ZHZJD
"Call Me God is the never-before-told story of the fascinating and turbulent investigation that led to the diabolical and elusive killers' capture; one that pitted protocol against instinct, sacred institutions against individual insight. Told firsthand by those few who had the vision and expertise to solve it, and including a fascinating look into the behavioral, ballistic, forensic, and electronic analysis vital to cracking the case, FBI agent brothers Jim Clemente (former FBI behavioral profiler) and Tim Clemente (former FBI counter-terrorism expert) take us through every facet and flaw of a nationwide manhunt that pressure tested nearly every aspect of law enforcement capabilities—and its glaring vulnerabilities.
Anchored by harrowing accounts from victims, intimate conversations with family members of those deceased, as well as candid accounts from those who knew the perpetrators best, relive the haunting events of the DC Sniper attack and piece together a true crime phenomenon that's impact can still be felt today."
Link: https://www.audible.com/pd/Call-Me-...fcf-90198b687a2f&pf_rd_r=YGFT65MKCHQ5R66ZHZJD
So... this was a scary time as I lived in Virginia when this was going on. It also hit a little too close to home...on my way to work at mythic entertainment, I stopped to get gas. Later that day, it turns out the sniper killed someone at the same gas station and at the same pump location where I was... :(
I grew up in Manassas and had previously been to the gas station where they shot Harold Meyers while with my mom. It was very scary to go to school at the time. I remember just starting middle school and literally running from the bus to the school with all the other kids because of the shootings. On top of the news, there were all the rumors going around school that we were the next target, etc. It was super surreal.
For those of you struggling to find a way to watch this, set your VPN to Sweden and the link in the OP should work fine.
That's crazy man. DAoC gave me a lot of comfort in my teenage years, appreciate your work on that.
I'm up to episode 3, it's 2:30am where I am, and just wow.....These guys were monsters. It's riveting stuff but in the worst way. The mistake of the White Truck/Van lead emboldened them even further and vindicated their fucked up world view. That must have been a terrible day to be an emergency worker in D.C
If I really think about it, the craziest thing about all of this for me is that I'm still sitting in Montgomery County going past some of the same intersections where these shootings happened 18 years later. But yesterday, more people died in just the county than Muhammad and Malvo killed in two whole states over the course of a month and we're not doing shit about it.
I guess it's more acceptable for the government to shut down everything when there's someone they can hunt down.
I guess it's more acceptable for the government to shut down everything when there's someone they can hunt down.