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I recently played Breath of the Wild again and it has already aged badly
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The game doesn't even hit 30 FPS consistently is the problem. If it was a smooth 30 it would be much less of an issue.
I think we're stretching the measure of truth really thin if non-ideal performance means the game as a whole has aged badly.
On top of which, the game's performance has always been what it is, and it was criticized even back then. There's nothing about it that aged for the worse considering it even got a patch addressing some of the more egregious performance issues.
Come on, don't do this.Looking at your post history perhaps you just have a problem with the Switch in general and it's not Zelda which is the problem?
I certainly feel lucky that I'm not someone that is bothered by performance issues. Especially as I like older games whichare rarely 60fps
I've played the game in glorious ultrawide at 100+ FPS with an increased FOV mod on CEMU but haven't had any problems going back to the Switch version. I still remember being dumbstruck seeing it run on the tablet on launch day, especially coming from the 3DS.
The only framerate dips that stood out to me were in the Korok Forest (or when I purposefully taxed the physics system, like lighting many things on fire). I really don't think it "struggles" to hold that framerate, unlike the port of Assassin's Creed III (a shame, since Black Flag has much better performance).
The only framerate dips that stood out to me were in the Korok Forest (or when I purposefully taxed the physics system, like lighting many things on fire). I really don't think it "struggles" to hold that framerate, unlike the port of Assassin's Creed III (a shame, since Black Flag has much better performance).
To the extent that you have no choice, it's easier to deal with. I fiddle with PC settings for hours sometimes getting the perfect balance of visuals and performance but on console you just kind of have to deal with it.
That being said, any release that doesn't address the framerate can go fuck itself.
Aside from the framedrops and maybe the dungeons' design (too repetitive in comparison to other games in the series, although the controls were a great idea), the game is an absolute masterpiece. Greatest Nintendo game i've ever played in my life.
I think this kind of thinking is derivative of what type of game it is. I have no issues going back to play BOTW again, but I may have some re-playing other games unless there is a bump in performance. For example, I played Marvel's Spider-Man, enjoyed the game and story immensely, but once I finished it, that was enough for me. But then the remastered version came out on PS5 with better graphics and framerate, and that gave me an incentive to play it again. But for a game like BOTW, I can go back to it without issues at its current state.
And of course I'll jump back on BOTW if five years from now it gets a 4K 60fps version. That game is just beautiful.
And of course I'll jump back on BOTW if five years from now it gets a 4K 60fps version. That game is just beautiful.
Zelda would be just fine with a locked 30. I'm starting to think more and more that the BOTW sequel will be what they use to hype their Switch refresh.
Yeah, the only big bugbear performance wise in this title is the Deku Tree area. Everything else is just fine.
Replayed it recently and it still feels absolutely fine to me. The hyperbole surrounding framerate and resolution on this board is understandable given it's mostly enthusiasts here but still feels quite silly when something that performs slightly below 30fps in some areas and isn't 1080p is described as a mess.
Surely you're aware that reviews don't work like that. Technical performance may be of utmost importance to some people but for others it's lower down the list meaning they're enjoyment wasn't affected by it, so why should their review (and score) be?
OP you have made very very clear your position about this topic in many other threads.
Get help,
Get help,
I like a good 60fps, trust me. But if Breath of the Wild is some sort of mess that aged badly, then I don't know what to say. I'd agree if it was an Ocarina of Time situation. But BoTW is perfectly playable.
Framerate isn't next gen. Next gen hardware lets us play older less demanding games at smoother framerates but you're definitely going to get a hell of a lot of 30fps experiences when next gen kicks into gear.
Lots of old stuff out there that runs at 60fps and higher. DMC4 can run at 300fps or something crazy like that, very old game.
Lots of old stuff out there that runs at 60fps and higher. DMC4 can run at 300fps or something crazy like that, very old game.
That is the what got me to bin off PC gaming. Honestly, I would rather I just accept whatever the game throws at me rather than have to sit and faff around with settings. Most of the time, I just hoped my hardware could brute force everything at maximum (did they run at 60? no idea, didn't care), and I simply didn't buy anything that was too demanding until my next big upgrade.
Not if you're looking at currently released games especially on the newer systems which are offering higher frame rates. Versus then where 30 FPS was much more than norm. Yes I understand we're in the transition. Between last gen and current gen and we will see more 30fps stuff crop up. but we're going to also see you stuff that's not going to be struggling under 30 a lot less than we were 4 years ago. So from the point of view is where we were then versus where we are now it has aged. But the same could be said for also any other games being made around that certain point that are also performing the same roughly as well. Look at Zelda 64 that thing was barely in the 20 FPS range everybody loved the game, yeah there was some talk of the frame issues but at the time there was really nothing else to compare it to. That's kind of we are now. The game itself isn't any worse than where it was when it was released, It's just the game surrounding it have better performance now.
The forest where you find the Master Sword, in special, is really terrible. Must have frame dips below the 20s.
The rest of the game is pretty much ok considering its a cross-gen game with the Wii U. They will probably be able to improve it a good chunk in the sequel.
The rest of the game is pretty much ok considering its a cross-gen game with the Wii U. They will probably be able to improve it a good chunk in the sequel.
Countdown to "1frameper30seconds" and "Your phone screen refreshes at 60fps."
I mean, it can, it's just that people take it to an absolute extreme when discussing it.
Can't say I'll ever understand the use of performance/fidelity as a marker of quality in how a game ages, comparisons to film fidelity or fascination with specs in general, but to each their own. Some of my favourite 8-bit and 16-bit games have terrible stuttering and slowdown in busy screens, but it's the art direction, gameplay, worldbuilding and mechanics that keeps me coming back, not checking it's hitting some frame rate counter consistently. I love Fire Emblem for the turn-based combat mechanics, not the combat animation that I largely switch off in most of the games anyway.
Korok Forest is terrible and should have been changed if they couldn't get it to run well, though at least there's no threats in the area of the forest that runs badly that would require fast reactions.
Otherwise I played the game a month ago having not played since launch and I didn't even notice the framerate particularly.
Otherwise I played the game a month ago having not played since launch and I didn't even notice the framerate particularly.
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I played it for like 2 hours and gave it to my niece. It was my biggest game purchase regret in the last 5 years or so.
I know it's *technically* not productive to just be saying people take desiring games to be 60 FPS to absolute extremes but like.... it's pretty goddamned extreme. It's almost like you'll see people rate games they otherwise completely like a 0/10 must because it's running at 55 frames instead of a full 60.
The game ain't that bad, just because the FPS isnt 60 shouldn't be a problem for this type of game anyway
The game ain't that bad, just because the FPS isnt 60 shouldn't be a problem for this type of game anyway
Well the framerate is...okay...kinda. its not that bad, and it got better than on release, but a 100% stable 30fps would be nice.
Resolution was a problem from the start, and the LoD and low rez textures where too. There is a beatifull game hidden under tose limitations.
And i was saying that in the beginning. the game is so great that i can see over those flaws, but a switch pro is really really needed to get those things sorted out, and i hope that not being hindered by the wii u improves stuff like texture quality. Load times between shrines got better with the new overclocked profile for loading, but still not where it should be.
So yeah, great game that is technically limited by the hardware.
It's incredible that we have so many users who only just started gaming with Ps5/Xbox series consoles.
Oh the tales we could tell you, of ages past. All your complaints about 30fps games at only 720 or 900p would seem foolish in retrospect.
Oh the tales we could tell you, of ages past. All your complaints about 30fps games at only 720 or 900p would seem foolish in retrospect.
The only areas I can really recall it getting truly choppy was the lost woods,
sure 60fps wouldve been better but its not like Zelda's combat is particularly anything to write home about anyway?
I never once felt30fps held the game back.
sure 60fps wouldve been better but its not like Zelda's combat is particularly anything to write home about anyway?
I never once felt30fps held the game back.
The title made me think you found the game as a whole to have aged badly, but if it's about performance and resolution, then yeah emulation will have to do for now.
Poor performance does indeed make a game less enjoyable, but poor performance doesn't really apply to BotW. It could run better, sure, but poor performance is an exaggeration.
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There are certain technical qualities for games or movies so fundamental that they shouldn't be "valued" - they should be expected no questions asked, and proper image quality and performance are among them.
Metroid Prime released in 2002, Haunting Ground released in 2005, both run at smooth 60fps. I don't care about the hardware, I care about the games, and BotW looks blurry, runs poorly and has aged badly just a few years after release.
Thank you. I don't get why anyone would defend companies releasing badly performing games. It's like people don't have any standards for the things they spend their money on.
So, when BotW drops frames, it drops straight to 20 due to its vsync implementation. This is what you're experiencing.
But unless you're playing on Wii U, I don't understand the complaint. There's a few small areas where it drops frames, and everything else is a locked 30. IIRC the Plateau is one of these places, but once you leave you can count the areas on one hand (and they're mostly really small and require the right conditions).
Only problem I have with the game is the inventory system and the controls. I guess I wanted more content too but I understand that they wanted to move on instead of adding an additional dlc.
As for frame rate and resolution, that would be a hardware limitation of the wiiu to switch. The sequel should look a tad bit better.
I am hoping the sequel has underwater areas that you can swim to. I just want underground everything including towns.
My issues can be fixed with the deluxe edition, 20 years from now.
As for frame rate and resolution, that would be a hardware limitation of the wiiu to switch. The sequel should look a tad bit better.
I am hoping the sequel has underwater areas that you can swim to. I just want underground everything including towns.
My issues can be fixed with the deluxe edition, 20 years from now.
I'm exactly the same, and feel really lucky in that regard considering people's concerns (and, sometimes, high standards) over technical aspects that I barely notice.
I would put BoTW back into my Switch to test it out but I'd probably end up playing it another 200 hours for third time.