I miss Spies vs Mercs :(

jorgejjvr · Sep 23, 2019

Yes, I miss splinter cell in general, including the sp, and I loved blacklist.

But I was just talking to buddies on games we missed that we played a lot online. More specifically, games that weren't that big, such as lost planet 2, and for us spies vs mercs - i feel so nostalgic about it now. Had a blast on it.

plz bring it back..

@TheFriendlyBro · Sep 23, 2019

I can imagine it'll come back in the same way Rainbow Six did with its multiplayer.

Poltergust · Sep 23, 2019

More games need to adopt asynchronous multiplayer in general, to be honest.

Liquidsnake · Sep 23, 2019

It was a lot of fun. It was also at a time when MP was really focused on the experience and not MTX to death. I guess I am saying, I miss those times.

Molecule · Sep 23, 2019

Yeah I had a lot of fun with that. It was really hard as well. But so so fun.

jorgejjvr · Sep 23, 2019

@TheFriendlyBro said:
I can imagine it'll come back in the same way Rainbow Six did with its multiplayer.

here's hoping... strategic games seem to be back in a big way

This is weird too, but i actually played blacklist on Wii U, and the network on that was horrendous. You were lucky to get a solid game

Dixie Flatline · Sep 23, 2019

I wasn't fan of Blacklists Spies vs. Mercs. It was great from the start but when the community started getting the late game unlocks, the gameplay slowly became absurd. What used to be a fine-paced match turned into 'who can spam all their gadgets the quickest.'

It was better when everyone had the starter/basic gadgets.

Lashley · Sep 23, 2019

So do I, OP.

So do I.

boris_feinbrand · Sep 23, 2019

In Blacklist the classic mode was the only way to play. Their modern one was a gadget ladden bullshit fest. If they decide to bring it back, they need to throw that shit out the window and stick to that classic mode.

KillGore · Sep 23, 2019

Loved it. Where is my splinter cell?!

Hawkster · Sep 23, 2019

Man, I feel bad that I missed out Spies vs Mercs back in the Chaos Theory days. And its sad that the official servers has been closed down.

And even if I use VPN apps like Tunngle or whatever, the process to setup is too cumbersome for me to handle :/

Ya know, my biggest dream for the graphical remake of the first three Splinter Cell games is bringing back the multiplayer, at least for Chaos Theory

Okabe · Sep 23, 2019

KillGore said:
Loved it. Where is my splinter cell?!

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MWorldII · Sep 23, 2019

Classic mode in Blacklist was sooooo gooooood

Nacery · Sep 23, 2019

Dixie Flatline said:
I wasn't fan of Blacklists Spies vs. Mercs. It was great from the start but when the community started getting the late game unlocks, the gameplay slowly became absurd. What used to be a fine-paced match turned into 'who can spam all their gadgets the quickest.'

It was better when everyone had the starter/basic gadgets.

Exactly that's why I only played the SvM Classic playlist.

Deleted member 8468 · Sep 23, 2019

This was a really fantastic mode. I had a friend who got really serious into either the first or second SC game that featured it. He won some online tournament and got a really fancy new graphics card out of it.

Hope it comes back, it was a really unique thing that no other game really matched.

Falchion · Sep 23, 2019

This is one of the biggest regrets I have because I never got into spies vs mercs during its hayday and I wish I had experienced it.

Firebrand · Sep 23, 2019

Interesting comcept but when I played it in Pandora Tomorrow on Xbox I just felt like a sitting duck on either side, hah.

aember · Sep 23, 2019

As long as they remove the Spies' ability to 1-tap instakill they can bring it back. Otherwise - that'll be a pass for me.

XL Hoodie · Sep 23, 2019

I miss it more than anything OP.

Chaos Theory is probably my all-time favorite mp game.

Success · Sep 23, 2019

I always wanted to try spies vs merc.
Are the PC servers still up?

jorgejjvr · Sep 23, 2019

boris_feinbrand said:
In Blacklist the classic mode was the only way to play. Their modern one was a gadget ladden bullshit fest. If they decide to bring it back, they need to throw that shit out the window and stick to that classic mode.

or keep both modes, and make changes to the new one

RedSparrows · Sep 23, 2019

Pandora Tomorrow was where it was at. So simple, so direct, so much fun. Absolutely adored it.

Chibs · Sep 23, 2019

It was glorious...

Deleted member 45130 · Sep 23, 2019

Loved it in Double Agent for 360. Crazy amounts of fun when partnering up with a friend.

Blacklist was the only one I missed due to the Xbox One release being around the corner and no backwards compatibility in sight.

Molecule · Sep 23, 2019

When are we getting a new Splinter Cell? I'd love a new Spies vs Mercs.

anariel · Sep 23, 2019

I never quite got into Spies vs Mercs as much as I did in Pandora Tomorrow but, man, I played the hell out of it in that. Honestly some of the most fun I've had in multiplayer.

wiggler · Sep 23, 2019

Poltergust said:
More games need to adopt asynchronous multiplayer in general, to be honest.

I think you mean "asymmetrical". :P

I only played a little in Pandora Tomorrow on the original Xbox, but I think Chaos Theory was out so the population was pretty low. Still was fun trying to sneak past real players!

Also, speaking of Pandora Tomorrow. Was that the only Splinter Cell not brought to PC? It's not even on UPlay.

xir · Sep 23, 2019

another casualty of the balance wars

anariel · Sep 23, 2019

turboviolence said:
I think you mean "asymmetrical". :P

I only played a little in Pandora Tomorrow on the original Xbox, but I think Chaos Theory was out so the population was pretty low. Still was fun trying to sneak past real players!

Also, speaking of Pandora Tomorrow. Was that the only Splinter Cell not brought to PC? It's not even on UPlay.

It definitely was on PC. I only played it there; odd that it's not on UPlay.

modoversus · Sep 23, 2019

RedSparrows said:
Pandora Tomorrow was where it was at. So simple, so direct, so much fun. Absolutely adored it.

Yeah, same here.

Kill3r7 · Sep 23, 2019

It was immensely fun but people dropped it rather quickly. So maybe they need to rethink the formula to make it more appetizing to the traditional MP crowd.

Kalor · Sep 23, 2019

I really hope the eventual new Splinter Cell has it because I've had so much fun with it. Nothing else since Blacklist has quite matched the tension that a good match of it could have.

Legacy · Sep 23, 2019

One of my favourite MP modes of all time, I really miss it.

Thera · Sep 23, 2019

Dixie Flatline said:
I wasn't fan of Blacklists Spies vs. Mercs. It was great from the start but when the community started getting the late game unlocks, the gameplay slowly became absurd. What used to be a fine-paced match turned into 'who can spam all their gadgets the quickest.'

It was better when everyone had the starter/basic gadgets.

Didn't played the last Spies vs Mercs but in the first game they introduced it (Pandora Tomorrow), I think there wasn't any upgrade at all.
It was hell of fun (so much tension) even without mic.

Molecule · Sep 23, 2019

I played sooooo much of Chaos Theory.

Hawkster · Sep 23, 2019

turboviolence said:
I think you mean "asymmetrical". :P

I only played a little in Pandora Tomorrow on the original Xbox, but I think Chaos Theory was out so the population was pretty low. Still was fun trying to sneak past real players!

Also, speaking of Pandora Tomorrow. Was that the only Splinter Cell not brought to PC? It's not even on UPlay.

Yeah. The only way to get it is buying a boxed copy.

From what I've heard, the game has lighting/shadows problem on PC. But since there's already fixes for those, I'm not sure why Ubi can't bother aside from possibly licensing/copyright issues.

jorgejjvr · Sep 23, 2019

Legacy said:
One of my favourite MP modes of all time, I really miss it.

likewise

Ryo Hazuki · Sep 23, 2019

Definitely had some fun with this back in the day.

HoodedSoldier · Sep 23, 2019

You just made me sad. :-(

AllMight1 · Sep 23, 2019

There's still people playing it on ps3 to this day.. on blacklist

VorpalNonsense · Sep 23, 2019

Me too, buddy.
I think Blacklist was its first proper return since Chaos Theory.
But it didn't have the staying power Chaos Theory did.

wossname · Sep 23, 2019

boris_feinbrand said:
In Blacklist the classic mode was the only way to play. Their modern one was a gadget ladden bullshit fest. If they decide to bring it back, they need to throw that shit out the window and stick to that classic mode.

This and the fact you can't show off your sick character skins while hiding in the shadows means I can't see them bringing back Spies vs Mercs - there's no way for them to monetise it.

boris_feinbrand · Sep 23, 2019

jorgejjvr said:
or keep both modes, and make changes to the new one

Nah, the new one was just a clusterfuck. At that point you can just play COD.
I mean, keep 4v4, fine. But most maps were tuned for 2v2 with proper light/dark mechanics, and giving Spies Guns was just downright stupid. Spies vs. Mercs is best when there is a consistent playing field. If they want to do Upgrades they should be cosmetic only.

That being said, I'd play the hell out of a new game that is 2v2 with basic rules.

MAX PAYMENT · Sep 23, 2019

People still play it on xbox BC on blacklist.

But yeah, it was my favorite game mode back in the day.

Molecule · Sep 23, 2019

smuppet said:
This and the fact you can't show off your sick character skins while hiding in the shadows means I can't see them bringing back Spies vs Mercs - there's no way for them to monetise it.

Omg you just made me so sad. There might be something to monetize but it's hard given the nature of the game. I really hope that doesn't stop it from happening..

jorgejjvr · Sep 23, 2019

Molecule said:
Omg you just made me so sad. There might be something to monetize but it's hard given the nature of the game. I really hope that doesn't stop it from happening..

darn it, i hope this doesnt stop it...

electricblue · Sep 23, 2019

Still probably my favorite multiplayer with friends, so many great moments in Pandora Tomorrow
It was way ahead of its time

RedSwirl · Sep 23, 2019

I played the shit out of Chaos Theory multiplayer. One of the only pvp games I really liked all that much to be honest. It and classic Blacklist are the kind of mp game that don't get made anymore from big companies -- low player count, simple, no superpowers or unlockable gadgets and shit, just your skill at using the mechanics already there.

@TheFriendlyBro said:
I can imagine it'll come back in the same way Rainbow Six did with its multiplayer.

This is one of two or so ways I see Ubisoft realistically bringing back Splinter Cell -- a Spies vs Mercs pivited towards esports with tons of quantification shit, maybe or maybe not with an optional "classic" mode, either alone or attached to a larger open-world story game.

Mountainous · Sep 23, 2019

Chaos Theory was a golden era of gaming for me. They really do need to bring back asymmetrical multiplayer for the next Splinter Cell. I've been pining for a new one to be announced since E3 2017.

Exit Music · Sep 23, 2019

I definitely agree with those who say it peaked with Pandora Tomorrow. It was so fun even though it had a lot of bugs/glitches.

I miss Spies vs Mercs :(

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