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I miss Deus Ex series
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There was this video talking about the OG DX and how it has a pretty cheesy storyline filled with conspiracies and X-Files esque narratives, that were pretty fun back in the day but have become way more meaningful in the current era and depressingly nihilistic, to not the fault of the game itself but how in 20 years the world has changed.
Yeah I was looking forward to 2077 as being an expanded Deus Ex but it's looking more like GTA in tone and style which is a bit disappointing. Loved the last two Deus Ex games. Feel like Mankind Divided got a lot of unnecessary flack for microtransactions when they were only used for a multiplayer mode which had no bearing on the single player.
God I miss it so much too. Loved loved loved HR and even MD, with all its shortcomings, had some incredible highs too.
I mean, seriously, Golem City/Utulek is legit one of the most atmospheric levels I've *ever* played. It's a work of art.
I'll never stop gushing about it.
Nice, thanks for these posts. Will have to get back to Mankind Divided at some point, haven't been to Golem City yet.
[...] Anyway, here's the actual real life inspiration for Golem City, the (now demolished) Kowloon Walled City:
Thread by @FarSight XR-20: Splinter Cell, Dishonored, Hitman, Deus Ex : what game has the best stealth Bank level?
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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Reshade, own camera tools, SRWE Mandatory shot of the moving blocks in the bank. Done by many, this is my take :)
Mankind Divided is really great - it could've used a more memorable supporting cast and *slightly* more concrete teasing of all of the stuff they clearly wanted the sequel to be about, but it's otherwise spectacular.
That said - DX:HR and DX:MD have a few design problems I hope future DX games address. The melee takedown system of future games *absolutely* needs to be more like Dishonored (it shouldn't be instantaneous, but it also shouldn't consume resources like battery life, and enemies/encounters should be designed around those different freedoms and limitations). I think the cutscene takedowns demo super well but I don't think anyone would argue that they're good gameplay.
That said - DX:HR and DX:MD have a few design problems I hope future DX games address. The melee takedown system of future games *absolutely* needs to be more like Dishonored (it shouldn't be instantaneous, but it also shouldn't consume resources like battery life, and enemies/encounters should be designed around those different freedoms and limitations). I think the cutscene takedowns demo super well but I don't think anyone would argue that they're good gameplay.
And buy the DLC too. A Criminal Past is immersive sim personified.
I hope so. I really enjoyed Human Revolution and Mankind Divided. I would like to see Square stay the hell out of the way tho if we get another title.
Things are a bit simpler (no lockpicking, can't really explode most doors like you could in DX), but the levels are generally designed to have multiple ways to get in and out of places.
Love the Deus Ex games - the environments, levels, music, stories, freedom... I've played HR & MD so many times, I cannae count. Goes w/out saying, I really, REALLY want another game w/ Jensen.
(Since I'm wishing, I would love another Dishonored game, or Prey. Why not both :) ).
(Since I'm wishing, I would love another Dishonored game, or Prey. Why not both :) ).
God OP tell me about it. Human Revolution was an absolutely incredible title and Mankind Divided was the most criminally overlooked games of last gen. I don't think MD was quite as good as HR, but really that's only by virtue of the story feeling basically only half done with a really sudden and disappointing finale. The moment to moment was superior (I feel) to HR and Prague is a GOAT location in games. It will be absolutely criminal if Eidos doesn't return to finish off Adam Jensen's story. Hopefully, if Cyberpunk is a success, it will cause them to revisit the property.
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I want a full remake of the original. Seems to me it would be a good idea to get the franchise back in the spotlight.
If it only was a proper PC game :( It still wouldn't hide the fact of its other evident issues and I know that people don't like the sentiment of consoles holding back certain games and I'm not sure if this is always true. Deus Ex: IW, however, is an example par excellence of what happens when you have to have too many restrictions. But DXIW is technically a mess, the gameplay is, by nowadays standards, mediocre at best and let's not even talk about the factions and the story...
It's an okay game and still one of not too many games within that genre but I wouldn't recommend it nor would I say you have to play it.
Mankind Divided is the best immersive sim in the past who knows how long. Maybe even since Thief 2. It's just so damn good. From Prague being possibly the best city space designed and created to the themes of identity that run throughout the entire game. It's the game that makes Adam Jensen *work* as a character. And that mid credits stinger. Fuck. God I want a sequel and closer to that story so bad. ):
Certainly one of my favourite franchises and it's unfortunate we probably won't get a proper conclusion to Jensen's story.
I actually prefer them to the jankiness of the stealth takedowns in the og tbh. Might just be modern gaming sensibilities but everytime i go back to the og that's the thing that frustrates me the most.
I miss Deus Ex so much. Mankind Divided, despite how ridiculous the whole 'mechanical apartheid' thing was, is in my top five of the generation.
No worries, I'm sure Marvel's (tm) Guardians of the Galaxy (tm) will be a perfectly great substitute for this!
As much as I love Mankind Divided, I really missed out on my first playthrough by not doing the Palisade Bank level, at least two major plot points are revealed there. More reason to replay it soon.
"...In a previous episode of Game Maker's Toolkit, I said that maybe Rocksteady's Batman games were better suited to the tight, claustrophobic hallways of Arkham Asylum, than the wide-open streets of Gotham City. Essentially, I was asking: when it comes to open worlds, does bigger always mean better?"
"...It seems like there's only so much that one developer can make. The question then becomes how far apart do you space it, and how often do you repeat it. But, in the same month, we got a game that answered both of those questions with 'hardly at all'. That game being Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and the city of Prague. Prague is so small, you can't really call it an open world. In fact, we often call places like this 'hub worlds', because they splinter off into other areas for certain missions..."
"...But calling it a city would be stretching it, too. This 2029 version of the Czech capital has just four train stations, a few hundred buildings, and a couple districts. You can run from left to right in a few minutes and from top to bottom in, well, it depends on your platform and if you've got an SSD hard drive and... well, never mind, it's small. But this tiny scale ends up being a strength, not a weakness..."
"...These aren't just Easter eggs or secrets. They actively flesh out the world of Prague and speak to the game's themes. In fact, while the main storyline of Mankind Divided is pretty hamfisted with its allusions to real-world racism, these tiny stories provide more subtle commentary on what it's like to live in a world filled with prejudice..."
"...But this new Deus Ex is validation that small worlds can be just as valuable and interesting as ultra massive ones. If not, more so. I'm also playing Yakuza 2 at the moment, which offers just tiny fragments of Tokyo and Osaka. But they're densely packed with details, giving you an incredibly vivid and intimate depiction of Japan..."
It makes me sad that we're unlikely to ever find out what that team could have done with the franchise on the next gen. Weird thing is, I can't decide if The Avengers falling flat on its face makes it MORE or LESS likely that SQUEENIX'll let them go back to making what they're best at.
I'm planning to start Deus Ex: HR
Quick question, I own both original and DC, which is the best version? (PC)
I know that the DC improved the boss fights and integrated the DLC, however it has a lot of bugs and issues.
Any recommendations on which version I shall play?
Quick question, I own both original and DC, which is the best version? (PC)
I know that the DC improved the boss fights and integrated the DLC, however it has a lot of bugs and issues.
Any recommendations on which version I shall play?
100% agreed, OP. One of my favorite franchises.
Per conversations in this thread, Cyberpunk is looking much more GTA than Deus Ex to me, so less in my wheelhouse. I'm sure it will be impressive, but I miss the quiet spookiness and simmering style of Deus Ex.
Please make another!
Per conversations in this thread, Cyberpunk is looking much more GTA than Deus Ex to me, so less in my wheelhouse. I'm sure it will be impressive, but I miss the quiet spookiness and simmering style of Deus Ex.
Please make another!
I played the DC earlier this year with this fan patch: https://cookieplmonster.github.io/2020/04/26/dxhr-dc-gold-filter/
Worked great for me, but I found the integrated DLC killed the pacing a bit. I remember thinking "What is the point of this level?" and then when I completed the game and found out it was the DLC, it made more sense.
Still, I can't imagine how much of a bitch the boss fights would be in the original, for that alone I would advise the DC.
+1! Love the series, and would love to see someone pick up the mantle. I really enjoyed HR and MD overall.
The two things I say to everyone about to play Mankind Divided is 1. make sure you do every side quest even if you have to use a guide to avoid missing any; they're some of the best content in the game, and 2. play all of the DLC because it should have been included in the base game and if it were I think there'd be fewer people complaining about the length of the game.
God I miss it so much too. Loved loved loved HR and even MD, with all its shortcomings, had some incredible highs too.
I mean, seriously, Golem City/Utulek is legit one of the most atmospheric levels I've *ever* played. It's a work of art.
I'll never stop gushing about it.
just look at that art direction... Man, Fuck Square Enix :(
I adore Human Revolution and Mankind Divided is so exceptional and such an immersive wonderful game to play. I really miss the series and hope they'll get back to it to finish the trilogy at some point
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I've been so bereft of cyberpunk games I've replayed MD 3 times in the last 2 years. I actually just reinstalled it again lol
