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I Like Ms. Marvel's new Hard-Light Powers More than her original Powers.

Do You Like New Powers or Old Powers more?

  • New

    Votes: 165 38.6%

  • Old

    Votes: 161 37.6%

  • Like both roughly the same

    Votes: 89 20.8%

  • Dislike Both

    Votes: 13 3.0%
  • Total voters
    428
jman1954goat

jman1954goat

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May 9, 2020
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This May be a Hot take but I am in love with what there doing with M.S Marvel in the MCU so Far.

Like many I was super Bummed out and Concerned when I heard they were changing her powers.

After 6 episodes I am beyond Sold Her New Kit is so Dang Cool. Visually the Heard Light is very Striking and has such a Cool Flair that doesn't Look like anything in the MCU.

In practical use she Can still Replicate Stretching and Embiggen But also the Suspended Platforms are Really awesome and the Parkour she does is interesting to watch.

She uses shrinking but we still have Antman and Wasp to fill that Niche so I am not heartbroken.

Just Look at this Cool Shit


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVA7E_VMmUA
 
PlanetSmasher

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
115,549
Stretchy powers are super lame, so I agree. Hard light is cool.

I don't know if they're gonna let her shapeshift using hard light (I don't know how that would work), which would be a downgrade for her overall powerset if she can't, but I don't mind the fact she can't stretch. Stretchy powers are for dorks.
 
Volimar

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm okay with it since they kind of breezed through her (major) insecurity phase.
 
jph139

jph139

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Oct 25, 2017
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Her original powers are kind of lame, but they're visually unique. Hard light is overplayed in the superhero space and FEELS generic, even if there's probably as many popular/recognizable stretchy people as there are Green Lantern knockoffs.
 
Mesoian

Mesoian

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Oct 28, 2017
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I mean she will still do all her stretchy/embiggen powers with the new hardlight stuff, so it's fine.

I don't really feel one way or another about it.
 
Alien Bob

Alien Bob

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Nov 25, 2017
2,456
They took what little was good of her original powers and made it more interesting and, more importantly, more purple. That's what we in the biz call a win-win
 
Wolf

Wolf

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Oct 25, 2017
4,846
The stretch armstrong/mr fantastic powers were dumb. The hard light stuff looks rad and much less comic book-y to me.
 
Auros01

Auros01

Avenger
Nov 17, 2017
5,504
They made it work really well. I was never too skeptical but I remember there being a lot of hand-wringing over the original decision. Glad to see people ended up liking the hard light powers.
 
Slayven

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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I do too, if she going to be cosmic, give her cosmic shit
 
Tbm24

Tbm24

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's okay, I don't find them nearly as interesting but her original powers work a lot less in live action than they do on a page. I just hope this doesn't result in changing her in comics. That would really annoy me.
 
spookyduzt

spookyduzt

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Oct 25, 2017
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She's not stretchy, she's a polymorph. But go ahead and enjoy your generic as fuck green lantern powers.
 
Bentendo24

Bentendo24

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Feb 20, 2020
5,344
I like the hard light powers. Her running through the city by hop scotching above the streets just has a cool look to it
 
ezekial45

ezekial45

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, I think comic Ms. Marvel looks really goofy with her "EMBIGGEN" powers. Like a way more comical version of Mr. Fantastic. She's clearly not a Plastic Man style character, so I never found her powers paired with her character all that well for the type of stories they tried to tell.

Her new abilities in the MCU are way more interesting, and in a way, I take her character more seriously. I actually wouldn't mind if the comics just decided to do the same thing the MCU did with her abilities.
 

4Tran

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Nov 4, 2017
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I'm not invested either way but I think that her shapeshifting powers would have been really goofy and fun. The problem is that the visual effects for them probably would have made Kamala look like a body horror monstrosity and that's not at all what they're going for with her character.

ErichWK said:
I wouldnt mind the hard light powers if it didnt look so bad with its effect and cg
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The shapeshifting powers would have looked much worse!
 
Slayven

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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ezekial45 said:
Yeah, I think comic Ms. Marvel looks really goofy with her "EMBIGGEN" powers. Like a way more comical version of Mr. Fantastic. She's clearly not a Plastic Man style character, so I never found her powers paired with her character all that well for the type of stories they tried to tell.

Her new abilities in the MCU are way more interesting, and in a way, I take her character more seriously. I actually wouldn't mind if the comics just decided to do the same thing the MCU did with her abilities.
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I don't them because they kinda of swerved. Like they hard doing full shapeshifting, like into a couch and shit. Like if she was like Exiles Morph I be down with that, but generic stretching, leave that to Flatman.
 
Alien Bob

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Nov 25, 2017
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spookyduzt said:
She's not stretchy, she's a polymorph. But go ahead and enjoy your generic as fuck green lantern powers.
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I love it when people go "sHe'S A pOlyMoRPH" as if that's something real and serious that needs to be respected and not just another made up word for being a certain kind of stretchy in comic books
 
flaxknuckles

flaxknuckles

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just feels like a lame version of Green Lantern to me. The Embiggen powers were cool and she was very fun to play as in Marvel's Avengers.
 
KtotheRoc

KtotheRoc

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Oct 27, 2017
56,622
Her polymorph powers. The people at Marvel made a conscious decision to not give her "pretty" powers. Her powers represent her being an awkward teenager. She often comes across as very gangly for this reason.
 
Hyperfludd

Hyperfludd

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Oct 27, 2017
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I much prefer her original set, but I understand that is hard to pull off in an attractive way in the live action medium (at least at lower budgets) so I get it. Just please don't bring hard light to the comics, please.
 
Pai Pai Master

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Oct 25, 2017
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I like them both. What I like more about the show is her powers and her actual origin being tied with her cultural background, rather than just her being an inhuman
 

Mib

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Nov 16, 2017
654
Hard light is better than stretchy limbs, but aren't her real powers actually shape-shifting? She only uses them to stretch, but she's Mystique with less limits irrc.
 
Terraforce

Terraforce

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Oct 27, 2017
18,917
spookyduzt said:
She's not stretchy, she's a polymorph. But go ahead and enjoy your generic as fuck green lantern powers.
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We have people in robot suits, others with super strength and laser eyes, but visual constructs is where we draw the line for "generic?" lol

Green Lantern's abilities are far from generic. And the way it's implemented in Kamala is very different. The GL memes fall flat unless you haven't watched the show.
 
Waggles

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Oct 26, 2017
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Polymorph powers have made for some interesting solutions to problems, let alone some cool visuals.

Hard light is a hilarious name, but a lame visual, and just isnt nearly as interesting as an ability.

And i would wager that they made the change because polymorph powers would take greater time and effort to look… passable. And it's obvious that disney's not putting in the money and time for the cgi teams to do that, so.
 
Carbon

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's fine. She can still make herself "big" when she needs to. It's whatever, she has her own identity in the MCU now.
 
Busaiku

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Oct 25, 2017
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The only time it was ok was when she embiggened at the end.
Sucks that she'll never be able to shrink though.

Being a polymorph greatly increased storytelling options.

Also sucks that she's a mutie.
 
Soupman Prime

Soupman Prime

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Nov 8, 2017
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I feel sorry for all those X-Men with unique and "goofy" abilities since people will want them changed.

They made it work but would've still preferred her original powers.
 
Cuburger

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Oct 28, 2017
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All in all, I do. She basically still has her old powerset in a new package with additional abilities.

I think the floating platforms are kind of lame currently since it seems like the way they show her leaping around seems unnecessarily exhausting, but it does seem useful for traversal and I can imagine that having her improve her skills will eventually have her stretching and platforming in a way that almost as effortlessly cool as Spider-Man.

Not sure why people still complain about her being like Green Lantern when her powers are like 10% platforms, 20% defensive shields, and 70% stretchy fists.
 
Zombine

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm curious to see what they do in the comic realm. Marvel loves their almost 1:1 parity with the movies/tv, so I just wonder how they wing the change (probably terribly if it hasn't been done already—I've sworn off 2018-2022 marvel)
 
effingvic

effingvic

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hard light powers are really aesthetic. I really dig her aerial parkour and traversal with these new powers. The showcase in the finale was awesome.
 
ZeoVGM

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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I agree. Especially from the viewpoint of a television show or film. They look cool.

We'll be getting stretchy powers with Reed Richards anyway.
 
Bufbaf

Bufbaf

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Oct 25, 2017
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Zombine said:
I'm curious to see what they do in the comic realm. Marvel loves their almost 1:1 parity with the movies/tv, so I just wonder how they wing the change (probably terribly if it hasn't been done already—I've sworn off 2018-2022 marvel)
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Given that the credits of Ms Marvel were always full of big ol' hands references and visuals, I don't see them changing it yet. Both can coexist.
 

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I much prefer her original ones. New ones look generic as hell.

They could have at least given her both if they were gonna do this. Let her be freaky but most of the time use the green lantern garbage so the CGI shit can be cheaper.
 
RetroMG

RetroMG

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Oct 25, 2017
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Eh, I feel like they're roughly equal. I think her body morph powers were cool and she has abilities that won't work with the hard-light powers. (Shrinking, shapeshifting) But she has other powers in her hard-light form that make up. (Making shields, platforms, effectively running on air)
Overall I think both are cool.
 
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