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chronos4590

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,356
<3 big hugs cosmic continue to let out what you need. But please please remove that man from your life. I would not trust that person with any more of my personal information or life at all.
You're from LA? I think there are city services here for emotional support. Check it out.
This is a great idea. It wouldn't even need to be lgbt focused. Any help would benefit
Block him EVERYWHERE.
Emphasis on the EVERYWHERE.
Remember you always have the lgbt thread the discord and all the people you've met in this community all these years.
 

Yayate

Banned
Feb 8, 2018
370
To be honest when I first started reading the OP I kinda assumed you were actually cheating and I would've had absolutely no sympathy with that backfiring but wow this was bad.

Like, you even approached your husband about it and had what sounds like an amicable breakup? Even if your relationship is over you didn't outright betray his trust. You did the right thing there and I hope your ex husband will at least continue to be a friend when the initial wounds heal. I don't really have anything else to add that hasn't already been said.

I know it probably can't mean much but I hope it helps knowing that a random poster that absolutely despises cheating and emotional betrayal thinks you did neither and thay you didn't do anything awful. You just made reasonable mistakes in moments of weakness, and I really hope you can find the strength to drop this new abusive asshole like a brick and find affection with someone that isnt out to use you
 

nitewulf

Member
Nov 29, 2017
7,195
My sentiments are similar to Border , as I remember you as Hotarubi and we all actually go back 20 years!
Do what you have to do absolutely but I don't think you need to get yourself banned here.
 

Nida

Member
Aug 31, 2019
11,159
Everett, Washington
I'm sorry you went through such a terrible situation. Personally I would recommend you not request a ban as this place can act as a bit of an emotional rock to help you get through rough times. Era did nothing wrong. :p

Also, you know his address? If this guy does this sort of thing frequently eventually he's going to find some guys from Jersey at his door with bats and pipes.
 

Ferrio

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,049
Along with the other old schoolers, that was a tough read. Hope you can find a good resolution, and if you need to distance yourself from the forums do so. God knows posting on this place for 20 years wasn't the most productive use of my time. If you can escape, all the better!
 

gdt

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,467
Cosmic I remember you from many threads, but specifically the old Underground Electronic Music thread in the old place. That community turned me on to a whole new world of music
 

Kabuki Waq

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
4,821
Man Hota I myself am going through a divorce after 16 years and 3 kids. What I am learning is you just have to look forward and try to learn from your mistakes. Don't undervalue yourself.
 

Travo

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,580
South Carolina
All I can say is don't settle for abusers. You're better than that. I know how it is that to be lonely, but there will be somebody real for you.
 

Mammoth Jones

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,301
New York
Gotta truly love yourself before you can get true love from another.

Take some time and really focus on you. Your needs. Your hurt. And please get guidance from a professional counselor/therapist.
 

Deleted member 42055

User requested account closure
Banned
Apr 12, 2018
11,215
" The 36 years before my husband I was very lonely and I was lonely again for at least the past year or two. I needed someone to need me, to rely on me, to want me. So when this guy on Instagram contacted me about a month ago, we quickly began to talk everyday. I felt sick even doing this, but couldn't stop myself from continuing. After a couple weeks I confessed to my husband that I was getting emotionally attached to this person, and he told me that if it had been a simple instance of cheating then he could've gotten past it, but having such strong emotion already was an obvious indicator that I wanted to be with this person — and i did. We went for days without speaking to each other, and living in the apartment like this was awkward. Later we'd have additional conversations, tearful ones, about where do we go from here. This isn't a bitter split, there's no real anger involved, just sadness and disappointment.

I would then decide to take a trip to NYC to see my friend? Hook-up? Crush? Who knows. I didn't care that we're in a pandemic, I wanted to feel loved."

——-You need to seek professional help. That you are 36yo ( or are you older...am I misreading this) and have these types of emotional issues, it is incredibly unhealthy. The naïveté to allow yourself to be conned because you " wanted to feel loved ", " didn't care we are in a pandemic" needed to care for someone.. by buying someone things? That hit you up on Instagram!? No, no no no.
 

Jugendstil

Member
Oct 25, 2017
605
cosmic, I've enjoyed your many contributions to the community over the years. You've turned me on to so much great music, and I'm sure many others would say the same.

The only thing I can say is that when you've gone through something incredibly painful, sometimes you have the urge to be really self destructive because it offers momentary relief. I know when my partner of ten years died, I felt something similar. Be kind to yourself. Nothing is unfixable or totally broken, even if you feel that way. I hope you can get the help you deserve. It's hard but you can work your way through the pain you're in right now.
 

Macattk15

Member
Nov 4, 2017
390
Phewwwwwww. What a roller coaster of stupidity.

Being in a dead relationship for so long can cause people to blindly do dumb things, like you did, though.

You need professional help as everyone else has said. Nothing can be done here for you.

One thing is for sure. Block the other dude. Never speak to them again.
 

Antrax

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,276
I actually did meet the roommate briefly and since the Uber rides home were made on my phone, I knew specially where he was going each time, so I don't think he was going after more money from other people, but all of the dramatic exits were absolutely too convenient and well timed to be coincidence. He was using them as a way to get out of any physical intimacy and bolster those guilt-trip purchases later on. It's just sad how I was very aware of these things in the moment while still allowing myself to get caught up in the bullshit, hoping it might eventually go my way.

Hey don't feel so bad, that's rule number 1 for a con: make the victim do things in the moment. He was never going to let you think on any decision. "Do this or I'm leaving."

He's still a great friend

This is good to read. I'd lean on him and offer the same (as I'm sure he's got feelings to work through here too). You can make a plan together about any type of therapy/counseling/maybe some local peer groups?
 

Deleted member 3896

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
5,815
Oh fuck. I'm so sorry to hear this.

Please don't beat yourself up.

DO be proud of yourself for your progress in life and know that his moment does not define it. You do deserve to be happy and loved, of course.
 
Aug 30, 2020
2,171
Really sorry to hear this. Please do seek real help, rather than some band aids. Obviously people here appreciate you, and you're worthy of appreciation.

And no matter what - what you've experienced now could possibly be helpful for others. When you find your footing, don't forget the potential help you could provide.
 

Barrel Cannon

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
9,290
No matter financial hole you think you've dug yourself into, remember that you can and will overcome it. It'll take some time and hard work, but you'll be able to do it. Don't let that part of this whole situation stress you out. When you get home have a shower and get some good sleep and wake up with a fresh mind and make a plan of what you want to do next. I always find shower and a good rest to help me deal with times I'm super stressed out about personal problems or work problems.
 

EJS

The Fallen - Self Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 31, 2017
9,176
I am sorry to hear this, OP. You don't deserve this. This won't define you, though. You will bounce back. I'll be rooting for you.
 

lenovox1

Member
Oct 26, 2017
8,995
Cosmic Bus you are an amazing human that has grown so much over the years I've been on GAF and here. Your journey has been amazing to witness and share, and do know that your growth was valid, powerful, uplifting, and REAL. You are going to get through this with the strength that we all know you have.
 

shintoki

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,079
Cosmic, if you do go. I always appreciated your posting here. Between the work-out threads, LBGT Gaf, and other threads. You were a positive influence on me. Best of luck!
 

julian

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,760
Yeah, it's not a big deal asking for the photo. I'd share if I had it.
Well some of us do live in NYC and we have working fists....ok, I probably wouldn't go so far as to punch him, but I'd at least knock the wallet out of the hand of whoever is standing next to him.
I'm sorry to hear about all of this and don't have too much to add. To those unsure how it could happen, sometimes we find ourselves in toxic situations that we can't fully process until there is some distance. And even then there are parts of it we continue to deny. Be glad you realized so much after just one trip.
Sorry I'm no longer in LA or I'd get you hiiiiigh (not that you'd need much help with that in LA).
 

Borgnine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,160
While I can't claim that I really know you other than our interactions as old school movie bros, I've always known you're a complete sweetheart. I know a kind person when I see them and it's not something you can hide. I'm very sorry this happened to you, it was honestly very upsetting reading that. I don't know what to say. Although I don't post much anymore either, I hope you don't go.
 

Tomo815

Banned
Jul 19, 2019
1,534
Sorry OP did I read correctly, over 10K in a week? wow. You went crazy. This is movie material. What was going through your mind at the time? YOLO?
 

Rory

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,159
What an emotionally loaded thread. I totally understand the way you feel. There are points in time when you feel like a by-stander and just watch yourself doing mistakes despite knowing better.

It's easy to raise your finger in retro perspective and give a lecture when you are not in that emotional loaded situation yourself (anymore). In that situation, you simply cant.

I agree that getting help to over come your emotional rollercoaster and make clear minded decisions again should be your priority.

Is there no protection for people in an emotional state like this from scammers via credit card companies etc? I wish there were. This is really tragic. I'm sorry you had to go through this.
That's what I was wondering too.
Yea seriously, Chase blocks my card if I try to buy gas 100 miles away.
Exactly, and dont get me started on more than 400 Bucks per day.

It seems really strange that the CC did not act upon this. Then again, maybe they do not catch all abnormalities?


If you buy things willingly for someone else there really isn't any kind of case of getting any of the money back. You'd have to prove you were coerced against your will or your card was stolen which would have needed to be reported a lot earlier then after almost a week's worth of large purchases.
I dont check my balance every day, maybe once a week or twice a month. Even once a month during corona.

It has not happened to me yet, but credit card fraud is not a rarity and you do not always need the card itself to proceed? I mean especially during times of online shopping huge scams may pile up that you do not recognize until days to weeks later.
 

David Addison

Member
Oct 28, 2017
660
I am a very emotionally responsive person and have some attachment issues along with a history of depression, anxiety, and self-destructive behaviors.
I needed someone to need me, to rely on me, to want me. So when this guy on Instagram contacted me about a month ago, we quickly began to talk everyday. I felt sick even doing this, but couldn't stop myself from continuing.
On the third day, I spent more. I couldn't say no to anything he asked for, I wasn't capable and he wasn't about to accept that answer regardless. He would have salesclerks ring up things without telling me, and to avoid an embarrassing scene or argument, I would sigh and pull out my credit card.
Seek friends/family/therapy ASAP, this is unhealthy behavior that is unlikely to fix itself.
 

GYODX

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,234
Wow. What an immensely shitty person. I don't know how anyone could be capable of manipulating and taking advantage of another human being like this and still live with themselves.
 

gerg

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,343
Other posters have already recommended it, but therapy would be really helpful in this situation. You've already made the first step in recognising that you have a way of relating to people that makes you unhappy; the next step, even if it has to wait until your financial situation improves, is to work how to change that. It is not impossible that the same thought patterns that led you to connect to someone who was so transparently ambivalent towards you (and ultimately disconnected) were involved in your situation with your ex.

As others have also said, don't feel, however, that this defines you. You will be able to work through this.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,506
Bandung Indonesia
Please move away from this new dude, he clearly took advantage of you.

This happeend to my mother and the end result was devastating to my family. Please, I don't want you to suffer because of the same thing.
 

JDSN

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,129
You should take a break from romántic relationships for a really really reaaaally long time, you will never love and be loved unless you love yourself first.

Seek help, and if you surrender yourself to the scam guy again, don't feel to bad about it, it happens sometimes.


Just don't carry your cc when you meet him.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,457
i remember you from the gaf days cosmic -- you don't need me to give any advice i'm sure, but fwiw i know you deserve better, and you most definitely can do better.
 

Doctor_Thomas

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,649
I don't think I can add anything that hasn't been said, but you are a victim here. You were emotionally vulnerable and they took advantage of that for their own gain. Everyone deserves love and happiness, but it won't be found through your bank accounts. Get professional help and look after yourself.
 

Flambe

Faster than Light
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,172
Yeah codependency fuckin sucks, might be worth checking into a CoDa group for support. It can help a lot having others in the same boat to share experiences and whatnot.
https://coda.org/find-a-meeting/

Regardless, block that little shit from everything and look for some help. Your happiness and self-worth is more than what you do for others. <3
 

Landy828

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,396
Clemson, SC
That other person was trash. They were obviously using you for free stuff.

That was one roller coaster of a ride to read. I think more happened in a weekend than I've done in a year.

Heck, I've not spent more than $500 on my own wife shopping over a weekend 😆.

🤔 (She pays for her own stuff anyway though)
 

Yopis

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,767
East Coast
You need help. Also do not need to be left with access to money. Get some help and get the card paid down. Anything beyond that is irrelevant at this point.

Took a lot of courage to post this thread. Hope you can bounce back.
 

Kamek

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,976
Try to get some money back if possible. Even contact him and say I want xyz back. I feel like the worst they could say is no - then you cut contact forever.
 

Jaychrome91

Member
Nov 4, 2018
2,629
I wish I could give you a hug. You definitely need professional help, so do I btw. That guy you met was definitely worse than trash. He was using you for money. Block him on all social media. Your credit card company or bank should have froze your cards after seeing all the spending you were doing in a different state no less. They dropped the ball there too. You seem lonely and just want to be wanted and loved. I'm sorry that guy used you when you were your most vulnerable. All that money you spent is gone and most likely not coming back. This will be a life lesson for you. I think you hate yourself just like I hate myself. I've struggled with it all my life. You cant love others until you start loving yourself, remember that.
 

Horp

Member
Nov 16, 2017
3,708
I think it's very important to remember that if a person is an asshole; scratch that - an actual con artist, him or her "playing" you doesn't say very much about you. This person has probably done this before and is likely very skilled at it. Anyone could have been fooled.
You feeling lonely, and perhaps "weak" is another matter and it is of course much, much more important - but don't see the fact that he managed to play you as any sort of indication that you are weak, or gullible etc.
I was used as a pawn in an advanced chess play by a girl once; used just to make him jealous etc. It stung, but I was never the one at fault. It's super easy to get played, who doesn't like attention and feeling wanted.

move on from this absolute douche and don't dwell on it. Focus on you.