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Oct 31, 2017
14,991
I thought this was a fairly recent thing for me, but I've realized I've been practically doing this all my life ever since I gained access to a computer/phone.

Any time I've needed to confront someone, I'd either do it entirely over text/some sort of online messaging (like social media message, email, etc.), or I'd at least initiate it that way.

"Why?" You may ask.

1. I like giving people the time and space that they need. "But what if they don't reply?" Well, no reply communicates more than enough, IMO.

And if they do reply, they at least don't have to say something out of their ass right then and there. For example, if I want to confront my mom about something, I don't want to do it when she's home from work and watching TV or talking to her friends. Out-of-the-blue? How can I expect a satisfying response if there's no warning beforehand? Or for her to not be pissed or anxious? Same with phone calls. IMO someone is far more likely to communicate the way they intend to via text (again, if it's dishonest? Then that communicates necessary information in and of itself!), rather than phone or in person with no warning as they're more likely to say whatever to get you to shut up.

2. I have ADHD, and I'm not the best with on-the-fly thinking even with medication; something I know I should work on. But for me, I best articulate my thoughts via writing. If I feel pressured, my brain kind of partially shuts off and I'll maybe forget important details, maybe be more impulsive, etc.

3. People may say "oh it's easier to lie over text." And?


Basically, I'm of the opinion that you can't really force anything. If someone wants to communicate, and if someone wants to be honest, they will be. So in that case, via text, if they want to communicate and be honest, they at least have time/space. Plus, for me, I can jot all my thoughts down, I'm not in a rush, and I can make sure that I'm presenting my thoughts/feelings/info the way I intend to.


I'm expecting ppl in here to overwhelmingly say "wow the age of technology is killing human interaction," but I disagree. I just like not bothering ppl :-(


Side note, I absolutely hate phone calls and 99% of the time I don't pick them up, even if it's a friend. I'm terrible at lying on the spot and I don't want to be pressured into hanging out or whatever if I don't want to. I have a friend who used to just call me because she wanted to vent, but then she understood how I operate, and now if she wants to vent via phone call, she'll text me first and ask me if i can set aside 15/20 mins to vent via phone, which makes me a much happier camper.
 

konka

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,856
If it's something truly important with somebody truly important to me I'd be pretty depressed that they couldn't even muster the courage to say something to me in person.
 

Qwark

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,027
I love text communication, it's so much easier to get my ideas across without having to worry about muddling them or misrepresenting something. And on the other end it gives people a chance to digest and think about it instead of answering in the heat of the moment.

Obviously some things are better done in person though, I still like to script those out ahead of time if I can.
 

echoshifting

very salt heavy
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
14,722
The Negative Zone
It's sooooo easy to be misunderstood by text, I don't think it's a good idea to have a major confrontation this way and I try to avoid it. Not having any inflection or body language to go with something tough to hear can really blow things up. And it's difficult to "proof" your text against this when all you have is your own perspective to find problems.

I communicate best via writing too but I still don't do this, maybe a follow-up clarification at most.

Using Era as an example, think of all the times you have seen someone write "is this sarcasm?" or have an extreme reaction to a post you thought was mild, we go from zero to a hundred all the time here because it's very hard to perfectly convey one's tone and meaning with text, individual perception counts for a lot.
 

SolVanderlyn

I love pineapple on pizza!
Member
Oct 28, 2017
13,507
Earth, 21st Century
It feels like wanting to have your cake and eat it too when someone does this. If you want to call me out on something then at least have the gusto to do it face to face.

Sorry if this seems incendiary to you, OP, but it feels really bad to be on the receiving end of this.
 

Jebral

Member
Oct 29, 2017
389
My worst fights with my wife have been when she goes to work and texts me her grievances from 40 miles away. Hard disagree.

I'm a huge believer in important conversations happening face to face.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,260
I agree with the idea that big conversations are better had in person, I'm just so bad at articulating myself face to face. I get flustered and usually give in to easily or forget what I wanted to say, unless it's someone I'm really comfortable with.
 
Jan 15, 2020
62
Honestly, talking to people over SMS should be a societal norm, for over a century it's been shown that people with shyness or anxiety couldn't talk to other people out in the blue without being outed as weird or something else like that.
 

NoRéN

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
2,623
Sounds cowardly to me but phones are how people communicate mostly
now so whatever.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
4,596
honestly it seems self-serving, what you've laid out here. it's social cowardice. everyone's got issues. you should figure out how to confront people "live", it'll serve you better in the long run.

think of it this way: if you didn't have your phone or a computer, could you interact in uneasy situations with other people? if the answer is no, then you need to think about that.


Honestly, talking to people over SMS should be a societal norm, for over a century it's been shown that people with shyness or anxiety couldn't talk to other people out in the blue without being outed as weird or something else like that.
none of that is true, what on earth are you talking about. is this some ironic gen-z hot take I'm not getting? Google: sonnet
 

SpecX

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
1,810
I don't think it's wrong to initiate the conversation/issue through text or social media, but it also depends on how big the issue is. It can be difficult to grasp the severity and/or emotion of the message you are sending that you much more easily can get from a face to face conversation.

If it's a big enough issue, face to face should always be the follow up to any text confrontation to ensure closure and acceptance is reached.
 
Oct 28, 2017
6,215
It's gutless and I don't allow it for serious matters. You have something to say to me, look me in the eye and say it.
 

Theswweet

RPG Site
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Oct 25, 2017
6,409
California
If you feel like you need to confront someone over text - while there are some times where it says something about who you're confronting - most of the time, I'd say it says more about you.

With text you can drop your beef and dip. In person, for better or worse you have to stick around.
 

Spinluck

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Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
28,466
Chicago
I have ADHD and can totally relate OP.

I don't take confrontation well which is why I face it or initiate it. I much prefer it to texting (hate texting), even a call would suffice somewhat. Thinking on the fly sucks for a lot of ADHD people but like most things mental health related, practice mindfulness whenever possible. It really helps clear some things up.
 

F2BBm3ga

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
4,083
Disagree.

I text typically for short burst communication. But for anything that is going to be long winded/confrontational/serious I would prefer either face to face or at least verbally over the phone. When people do shit in like OP, It comes across as cowardly and I just dont have the patience or time for it.
 

HanSoloCup

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,638
Richmond, VA
I grew up in Philly, where we confront everything bluntly face-to-face. We have a lot of passion, and it usually gets contentious. But after talking through the problems, you forgive, forget, and move on.
 

skeezx

Member
Oct 27, 2017
20,152
i had a good friend who did this. we are not friends anymore

mileage varies on what "confrontation" is and per situation but IMO it's a loser's way out
 

VeryHighlander

The Fallen
May 9, 2018
6,385
It's cowardly. But if you can't defend your own thoughts against a person who will back themselves up then it makes sense to send a passive aggressive text to ruin someone's night. Yes, there are advantages like being able to gather your thoughts and articulate yourself better, but that's the reason why it's cowardly. You're basically blindsiding the fuck out of someone who now has to sit there and spend time texting your ass back to solve the situation. Whereas in real life you can have a back and forth conversation with someone and learn a thing or two.
 
OP
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pleaseinsertdisctwo
Oct 31, 2017
14,991
It's cowardly. But if you can't defend your own thoughts against a person who will back themselves up then it makes sense to send a passive aggressive text to ruin someone's night. Yes, there are advantages like being able to gather your thoughts and articulate yourself better, but that's the reason why it's cowardly. You're basically blindsiding the fuck out of someone who now has to sit there and spend time texting your ass back to solve the situation. Whereas in real life you can have a back and forth conversation with someone and learn a thing or two.

Ugh I should have made this more about INITIATING over text. I wouldn't want the whole thing to be over text, but at least initially? Even a "hey can we discuss something later?" Or a "can we talk about X later?" Is that bad?
 

Kain-Nosgoth

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,567
Switzerland
i get you, i'm a terrible talker and can't think of anything on the spot...

having time to truly think about what i'll say is really better for everyone! If they want to talk face to face i will oblige though
 

overcast

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,427
If it's something important I would really much rather hash it out face to face or at least call them and talk on the phone. Not to say I haven't had serious discussions over text, it just isn't ideal to me.
 

Daysean

Member
Nov 15, 2017
7,392
GOD NO
This is cowardly* and just ASKING for misunderstandings
You need to say shit to their face because body language and tone carry way more meaning than just text which WILL be interpreted wrongly

*If you're just doing it just because you dont want to talk to them, instead of having issues like verbal communication problems
 

GatsGatsby

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,282
West Columbia, SC
I do it and its because I have difficulty getting out what I need to say. I also have a bad history of clamming up if I choose to go for a direct confrontation face to face which obviously can cause bigger issues down the road. After I get out my initial issue I'm fine with talking over the phone or face to face.

Honestly fuck anyone who thinks this is cowardly or disrespectful. Let people address their issues with others in anyway that makes them feel comfortable. They may not be doing it in the form you prefer but at least its not being bottled up.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,948
I do it and its because I have difficulty getting out what I need to say. I also have a bad history of clamming up if I choose to go for a direct confrontation face to face which obviously can cause bigger issues down the road. After I get out my initial issue I'm fine with talking over the phone or face to face.

Honestly fuck anyone who thinks this is cowardly or disrespectful. Let people address their issues with others in anyway that makes them feel comfortable. They may not be doing it in the form you prefer but at least its not being bottled up.

Nah, it's pretty damn cowardly. I mean, it's not always bad because sometimes we need to take care of ourselves first, but don't think you're ever being brave by confronting someone in a way where they can't actually directly respond.
 

GatsGatsby

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,282
West Columbia, SC
Nah, it's pretty damn cowardly. I mean, it's not always bad because sometimes we need to take care of ourselves first, but don't think you're ever being brave by confronting someone in a way where they can't actually directly respond.


I dont think I'm brave for the simple fact that I dont equate bravery or cowardice with how you choose to deal with an issue. You simply deal with it or dont. In the case of my relationship I'm not going to get a direct response from my Bf a lot of the time we're incredibly busy people and sometimes we both leave a text if theres something wrong we either hash it out then either through text or a phone call or we wait to see each other which then we're both prepared. Its worked for the last 5 years.
 

Chumunga64

Member
Jun 22, 2018
14,263
It may be easier at times but I'm not a teen anymore, I have to confront people in person more often than not
 

mashoutposse

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
445
Text is too low-bandwidth. I want to see and hear live reactions.

Wanting to keep it to text reeks of fear of the reaction and a lack of transparency into yours that feels like deception.
 

Lord Fagan

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,367
A fear of confrontation doesn't justify a one sided posture when you desire confrontation.

It's a halfway point between passive aggressively shit talking behind somebody's back and respecting them enough to resolve the matter like an adult. If there is a fear of physical safety, or a history of the other party becoming belligerent and unreasonable when trying to clear the air, that's one thing, but just using a chat window to lob criticisms because looking the other person in the eye and having to contest with the response in real time is "uncomfortable?" Sorry, that just ain't it, OP.