Sorry if I wasn't clear. My point was that the people I know who holiday there are either homophobic or don't give a shit about people in general. They are rich, classist shits.
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I just wasted 2,300 dollars
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There's a reason many people from Saudi Arabi choose to vacation in Dubai, though. The relative freedom is a godsend. So in the context of the OP, it would make sense.
The typo really seals this deal. You'd be a fool not to jump on this opportunity, OP.
At least you're in a situation where you can save and spend over 2000 dollars on something pleasurable. Many people would kill to be in that kind of situation so look on the bright side I guess.
Here in the UK, it seems as though it's many from the opposite end of the spectrum that find Dubai an attractive destination. I'm probably going to get lynched, but it seems to be a haven for the Jade Goody/TOWIE types that see it as a next-tier alternative to Ibiza.
I'm sure they're completely oblivious to the potential ramifications that can ensue from their typical behaviour that most other parts of the world find tolerable. I'm surprised there hasn't been more horror stories from Brits abroad in Dubai tbh, although there probably has and I just haven't read about them!
Sorry, OP. That sounds painful and especially hard with disappointed kids. Hope you're able to salvage something out of it.
Some countries require VISAs, and if OP was traveling without their partner, proof that they're a legit parent and/or written permission from the other partner to take them over borders.
Some countries require VISAs, and if OP was traveling without their partner, proof that they're a legit parent and/or written permission from the other partner to take them over borders.
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eh...you guys visited Dubai before you said that? Sure, it's not 'justice freedom and the american way' 'murica but it's not a shithole with it being one of the richest (if not the richest) country in the middle-east.
Unless you guys have weird fixation of visiting a country based on whether you agree with a country's 'american-ness', then i rest my case.
I am not american, i am not white, i've been to America 5x (Chicago, Mineapolis, NYC, SanFra, LA, Sandiego) and i've also been to Dubai twice too and taking out of the 'FREEDOM OR ELSE' index into consideration, i felt safer in Dubai than in America.
Some people really feel the need to come here and make sure OP knows they don't feel bad because Dubai sucks and whatnot? OP just lost 2300$ and wanted to get it out there so he might feel better, he really doesn't need your views on Dubai, I'm sure there are other threads for that.
It's more to do with you can do what you want in the right places. You want to drink, go ahead just don't do it in public. You want to have sex, again fine just behind closed doors.
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Feeling this post. Dude missed out on a holiday with his kids and it seems to be celebrated as the destination was Dubai.
Yeah the US is trash too. I'm from Europe and I'd still rank Dubai below the US.
You wouldn't travel anywhere?
Man my son is 9 and I've taken him to Egypt, Dubai and Turkey. His mum took him to Morocco. Couldn't imagine not taking him on holiday.
Is this an American thing or am I going crazy?
I work as a travel agent in Melbourne, Australia and I book families to go to Dubai every week. It's a major worldwide family travel destination.
I mean what do you think there's going to be an IED on the way from the airport? You think you're going to be arrest for something because you saw it in the news?
The average Australia (speaking from just anecdotal experience) is more worried about Chicago or Los Angeles when I'm talking to them rather than Dubai. Dubai I just tell them to pack sunscreen. San Francisco I have to tell them how not to get fleeced by homeless people.
Oh, that's awful OP! I hope the kids weren't too disappointed. I once flew internationally with my passport having just expired. I noticed on my way to the airport but thankfully no one checking me in or through security did. This was just a few months after 9/11 too when going through an airport felt incredibly tense. I have dual citizenship and always kept my UK passport renewed, but post Brexit there just won't be much of a point. Will be a bit sad to let it go.
As a child I travelled the world with my family and feel all the more rich for it. It was amazing experiences that helped me grow and expand my perspectives in ways that travelling around my own country, or even just Western countries never could.
My wife travelled fine to the US with a Cuba stamp in her passport.
To be fair, some of the posts are funny in the same way they would be if they told someone from North Korea not to go to China because their regime is questionable. Though obviously not as extreme.
Please. When you are posting on an international forum that is mainly American and you decry a country that has a power overreach from the government you are begging someone to make the comparison. None of the countries in question are good, obviously but most Americans and certainly most big cities enjoy a lifestyle in part due to the desire for people to move, work or travel on holiday to the USA. And then for Americans to go "BUT YOU ARE SUPPORTING A BAD GOVERNMENT" when you have the orange baby as your president and regularly commit war crimes... yeesh.
Presumably because they're over-privileged selfish fucks who don't give a shit about human rights abuses or the despotic regime.
They probably all voted for Tony Abbott.
OK, list the countries you've travelled to.
No ethical consumption under capitalism level shit here.
OP were traveling solo as a guardian? Likely the case from what it sounds like.
Responses in this thread boring as usual.
Responses in this thread boring as usual.
Good god this thread. I shouldn't be coming to the segregated US and you shouldn't be travelling to corrupted Italy then, since both countries are currently run by shitty governments with fascist tendencies. Hell, major tourist destinations here in Italy like Florence and Venice have also officially declared that they're sick and tired of 'dirty peasant tourists' who just make the streets overcrowded and don't spend much money (I don't visit those cities anymore myself because fuck them). I'm not against the principle of your disdain, it's actually noble and as I said I do that myself in my country, but my bet is that most of you are weirdly selective when it comes to which countries are bad enough to boycott.
I'm sorry for your troubles OP, we all miss stuff and figure that out only when it's too late. I don't know how you booked your hotel but you might get a refund on nights after the first one, check that with the service you used to book your staying. About flights, I don't know how regulations are over there but here in Europe you can get a partial refund of taxes even on non-refundable flights, check that as well.
I'm sorry for your troubles OP, we all miss stuff and figure that out only when it's too late. I don't know how you booked your hotel but you might get a refund on nights after the first one, check that with the service you used to book your staying. About flights, I don't know how regulations are over there but here in Europe you can get a partial refund of taxes even on non-refundable flights, check that as well.
You're right. It was unfair of us to hijack and shit on the OP's thread. The topic of Dubai and its ethics are probably best served in a separate thread.
Apologies to the OP.
Which is not the point about Dubai at all. I was full defense force before I visited there myself and it was a shit experience.
I generally don't go to places I could be killed for existing, ta.
Cool so bad faith arguing about bullshit. Lovely that your argument is conveniently anti Muslim so the casual racism fits well with your shitty arguing style. Ta
No offense, but you really should have all your passport affairs in order and confirmed good before planning or booking shit.
How was it anti-Muslim or racist?
I'm talking about the Government.
Good to know you're not an LGBTQ+ ally though.
Hmm, maybe this wasn't the reason.
Usually the airline will check this stuff, so they don't have to be the ones flying you home for free when you don't get into the country.
I just see a lot of people claim they have a problem with the governments of countries but not the people.
Just so happens the people who live in those countries are brown and Muslim generally (mainly brown)
I try to be an ally of everyone, I just don't see how writing off entire countries because of government policy works but you can keep up the hyperbole and cutting out all non white / Anglo influence of your life and live in your bubble. I just don't think you fight hate with hate is all. Anyway that's the last I'll post in this which is really a thread about a dude who sadly forgot to check visa requirements :(
I'm from the UK as well. My experience has been it's just rich people with questionable ethics, but following on from posts highlighting that this isn't the topic of discussion I'll leave it at that
If the issue is traveling without the other parent, then the "documentation" required looks pretty simple. A passport copy and a letter - doesn't even have to be notarized.
I wonder if they would've accepted an electronic letter and if lidmat could've improvised something once they landed.