Yeah, but your consciousness has a continuity through time. A perfect copy of you has your consciousness, but you cease to exist the moment you are transported.
There's an episode where it malfunctions and doesn't get rid if the previous dude, outing it as cloning
That's an interesting and logical take on it, but most people won't share that view. "You" might be the same, but the stream of consciousness is not. If you're not living for your own stream and experience but instead for a general notion of "you," or "your" existence, then what is even the point of the latter? You'd have to think you're a pretty special mark on the universe to shift the importance from your experience to your existence.
well your cells get replaced every second. so you're a new you every couple of years or so? Who cares if its instantaneous. As long as i can go to Hawaii in 5 seconds, I'm in. (even if its my perfect clone)
Well there's too much information to store it, so they can only transmit the data in real time, or something to that effect. You would have think some race has devised a way to make clones using a giant vat of goo, but i guess since Star Trek isn't real, we will never know. Until someone invents teleportation.
iirc they actually show a diagram of the thomas riker transporter signal bouncing off the upper atmosphere and going back down to the planet
Existence can't be only in the mind, because the mind (which requires the brain) needs to exist to be a mind.
The copy has its own consciousness, modelled after yours. It isn't your consciousness. Yours would be lost the moment you are disintegrated.
No. That is now how transporters work no matter who many times the internet tries to make it so.
It's location is the brain. Consciousness is not a phenomena that occurs outside our bodies or brain.
The Barclay episode is contradictory with the other descriptions of transportation, which is that you are disassembled and then 'stored' as data. If such a thing were to occur, you would die. If it was the Barclay like thing, then it would be more like a portal where you are seemingly passing through without deconstruction.
A butterfly can't dream of being a man, nor can a man dream of being a butterfly.
Forget teleportation, how do we know consciousness is persistent at all in general? Every instance of "you" remembering is just the current you checking what's stored in your brain, and the matter you're made of is constantly being replaced.
Nope. Because the "signal integrity" loses over time be it due to exceptional power requirements or the need to accurately store the data over a long period of time. You lose enough of it and you can't materialise the person anymore. It's actually documented in Trek that this is how it works.
I don't think that's true for your brain though. At least not completely true.
Well, when real magic is involved, not much to discuss using logic anyway.
Yeah, that is why physical continuity is a flawed idea. There is only self-through-perception. Physical continuity is just not a robust framework of existence that holds up to scrutiny. Intuitive, yes, but consistent, not so much.
Does it have continuity? What about sleeping/unconsciousness?
Well now I hope when the next "transporter" accident in Lower Decks occurs this happens to Boimler but instead he freaks out instead of being a boss about like Mariner.
The gradual vs instant nature of the replacement is the difference between being the original you and being a copy.
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