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I hope GTA6 goes the RDR2 route
- Thread starter NTGYK
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It's more likely that they want to both push for a tight narrative and also make main missions easier to test and develop by removing basically all player control over their approach. The game engine in RDR2 is perfectly capable of letting the player approach things as they please based on how it all works just fine outside missions.
I hope GTA 6 will allow for more freeform approach to execution because that is a lot more fun than the forced handhelding of 5 and RDR2.
I also really hope they make a separate online game this time around because I loathe loading gigabytes of patches for online content that I will never see in SP because I don't give a damn about their shitty online mode.
Yea,it is a bit odd that their huge open world games are not at all open when it comes to how you engage with the missions in them.Saying that,not all games need to be the same and if they want everything to have that cinematic look and feel then I can understand why things are designed like they are.
nah, i think they should continue to make crass jokes about how shitty America is. go all in even harder than before.
i mean.. why let America off the hook now?
i mean.. why let America off the hook now?
i did not like Arthur. He was a villain and a murderer and I felt zero sympathy for him. The world was brimming but bloated. The game couldn't stop loving itself and the story was far too long. I like detailed worlds but I also like progress. The story droned on way too long.
I absolutely agree with OP. I would (and will) be very disappointed in GTA6 if it wipes away all the progress in presence and structure that RDR2 displayed. With all its infuriating flaws, it's a definite milestone for the medium and something that only a studio with the ressources of Rockstar can achieve.
I don't have much hope though, as GTA5 was already a disappointment on this front.
I don't have much hope though, as GTA5 was already a disappointment on this front.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I couldn't even finish it because the controls were clunky as hell and everything was too slow.
I guess we have different ideas of 'fun' because I loved how slow it was.
Definitely, and that's okay! I just tend to prefer faster paced games.
Agreed. Feel GTA4 is more similar to RDR2 and it's much better than GTA5. I also hope they adopt the sim like aspects of RDR2 and expand on them.
How are the controls clunky? It's no doom, but it's still very enjoyable.
I really hope you dont include gameplay/mission structure/controls into that because RDR2 was a total slog due to its "simulation" elements.
I really hope they go for it.
I know people like to yell "but muh gameplay" and "but muh fun", but for me personally, GTA IV was the best GTA. So yes. Let's do it.
I know people like to yell "but muh gameplay" and "but muh fun", but for me personally, GTA IV was the best GTA. So yes. Let's do it.
Well, I think a lot depends on the city (or state) they choose.
I mean, if they make another "Vice City" I doubt it will be okay with a serious atmosphere.
GTA V was crazy, I agree, but I liked it.
However I think "way too serious" is not the right place for a GTA.
I mean, if they make another "Vice City" I doubt it will be okay with a serious atmosphere.
GTA V was crazy, I agree, but I liked it.
However I think "way too serious" is not the right place for a GTA.
Don't forget that this forum is an alternate universe where RDR2 was a divisive title. You get bonus points for taking potshots.
On topic, I think I'd like to see what you suggested as well. I'm personally more invested in seeing a more controlled online than the hellscape we have now, but a more narrative, powerful single player experience would be great. They have the writers for it.
The writing and story in RDR2 was actually really weak IMO, but it was disguised as a good story because of the presentation, graphics, good unscripted moments in camp, and the stellar voice acting.
However I would love for GTA 6 to be as dynamic as RDR2, by being able to interact with anyone, and I can imagine a similar structure to the camp by having a safehouse with other organized crime members or something.
The problem with these series taking themselves so seriously is that the gameplay/immersion goes out the window the moment the story is just like "okay we lost the cops, let's go back and rob another store!". They gotta find a way to make it less obvious.
However I would love for GTA 6 to be as dynamic as RDR2, by being able to interact with anyone, and I can imagine a similar structure to the camp by having a safehouse with other organized crime members or something.
The problem with these series taking themselves so seriously is that the gameplay/immersion goes out the window the moment the story is just like "okay we lost the cops, let's go back and rob another store!". They gotta find a way to make it less obvious.
Sure it has one of the best Rockstar narratives, but that in itself isn't some grand accomplishment lol
GTA has never really been that. I'd rather have something fun to play instead of a game that focuses on immersion above anything else.
I can't see myself going back to RDR2 after completing it. The missions and gameplay don't hold up after the first time around.
GTA has never really been that. I'd rather have something fun to play instead of a game that focuses on immersion above anything else.
I can't see myself going back to RDR2 after completing it. The missions and gameplay don't hold up after the first time around.
Never heard of the site, but I do know the leaks and rumors Reddit and all that. Is this new? Doubt it, but still.
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They're actually worse than PS2 controls. At least GTA:SA was responsive.
GTA is at its best when its over the top and goofy. Make it arcady like PS2 trilogy. Put hovercrafts and jet packs back into the game.
It's why GTA IV was the worst of the series when it ditched a lot of stuff that made San Andreas the GOAT.
It's why GTA IV was the worst of the series when it ditched a lot of stuff that made San Andreas the GOAT.
Story wise I don't care which way they go. But, I hope it's not filled with micromanaging like RDR2.
Oh, and no more crappy characters like Trevor.
Oh, and no more crappy characters like Trevor.
No thanks.
A huge part of GTA's charm is in its satire and focus on over the top humorous action, characters, and portrayal of Americana. Red Dead Redemption as a more serious IP is fantastic and should remain its own thing.
A huge part of GTA's charm is in its satire and focus on over the top humorous action, characters, and portrayal of Americana. Red Dead Redemption as a more serious IP is fantastic and should remain its own thing.
From a narrative standpoint, sure. But literally nothing else. Game is extremely boring for actual character-controlling gameplay.
I just want a realistic-ish action game in modern America.
Give me Jason Bourne/Heat/Collateral vibes, not Fast and Furious/Family Guy like GTA V
I doubt I'll get what I want tho
Give me Jason Bourne/Heat/Collateral vibes, not Fast and Furious/Family Guy like GTA V
I doubt I'll get what I want tho
I don't think it would work tonally. Red Dead is all about melancholic, deeply personal narratives set to the backdrop of a changing America that is leaving the protagonist behind. GTA is all about HAHAHA BOOBJOBS GET IT?? SATIRE™
I love RDR2 but I think GTAV has its own charm.
And I want they to make the gameplay more arcade.
And I want they to make the gameplay more arcade.
I think it needs to be a mix of the two. GTAV's satire was toned down compared to the previous entries and I hope for VI they still have it, just leave that more so for a lot of the side missions while keeping the main story a bit more serious. There's a way to do it well and they can pull it off. It would also make people wanna go through the side missions given it's a different feeling compared to the main missions. Basically I'm saying that they can do both.
I just wonder what the story will be for VI because based on how previous entries have been, they gotta freshen it up.
I just wonder what the story will be for VI because based on how previous entries have been, they gotta freshen it up.
Most of GTA's charm is in its satire and parody of Americana. To me RDR2 had a much more memorable and in a way better story, but I still wouldn't want GTA to go the same way. I also didn't like RDR2's controls too much, but still the realism in animations etc adds so much to the game imo.
I guess if GTA 6 would take something from Red Dead, it should have some of that realism while still retaining some arcadey parts, minus the social sim elements of course. They just need to find some middle-ground between GTA and RDR and make the controls just more responsive in general without losing the fidelity in animations and everything. Just look at TLOU2, industry-leading animations where the game will definitely still control great.
I guess if GTA 6 would take something from Red Dead, it should have some of that realism while still retaining some arcadey parts, minus the social sim elements of course. They just need to find some middle-ground between GTA and RDR and make the controls just more responsive in general without losing the fidelity in animations and everything. Just look at TLOU2, industry-leading animations where the game will definitely still control great.
RDR2 has a ton of polish, but I found everything outside of the last 10 hours or so of the game to be very tedious from a narrative perspective. Too much of that game felt like "Henchman protagonist that has interesting observations about his circumstances and astute things to say continues to do henchman things for 25-30 hours," and I found that aspect to grow irritating after a while. There were missions I'd undertake that I thought would be pivotal points of change in Arthur's attitude, only to find that the mission after it I was back to doing henchman shit. It's like seeing a character who has the potential to do more, but doesn't until the final stretch of the game.
I also don't need my GTA to be as serious as RDR2. I think they just need to get better writers to make the comedy and satire more incisive and less dumb. But I absolutely do not want that level of "sim" in GTA, nor do I need my characters to be as meditative. I felt like I was still learning gameplay mechanics 3-4 hours into that game.
I also don't need my GTA to be as serious as RDR2. I think they just need to get better writers to make the comedy and satire more incisive and less dumb. But I absolutely do not want that level of "sim" in GTA, nor do I need my characters to be as meditative. I felt like I was still learning gameplay mechanics 3-4 hours into that game.