I have doubts that EA will support two major BR games at once (RIP Battlefield BR)

[5taquitos]

Now that Apex is out and seems to be generating good buzz, Dice is looking even more foolish with their delayed BR mode. EA isn't known for their loving support as it is, and BR needs far more support than traditional MP modes, so I have my doubts that Battlefield is going to succeed in this area.

Do you have any expectations for BF BR at this point?

 

[Aokiji]

One is F2P, one isn't.

 

[Thorn]

Who says Apex is going to last long? For all we know this game could be dead in 2 months like any other "Follow the Leader" game we've seen come and go so many times.

 

[Son Lamar]

Totally different games too

 

[Deleted member 51691]

In general, RIP Battlefield V. That was just a bungled launch all around. Battlefield V should have been in the top 3 of the NPDs.

 

[DailyCalmSpirit]

You have a lot of faith in AL lasting long.

 

[DNAbro]

Absolutely zero interest in BF BR now. I enjoyed what I played of V but I have very little interest in returning.

 

[carlsojo]

Why wouldn't they want two revenue streams instead of one. What even is this post?

 

[Barnabas Reynolds]

Totally. It's not like these things are meant to make money.

 

[PopsMaellard]

You have a lot of faith in AL lasting long.

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Apex Legends is the best BR game I've ever played, and I've sunk a lot of time into PubG, Fortnite and Blackout. The gamefeel and QoL features in AL are incredible.

 

[FRV]

They will be quite different, but I still think it's weird of EA to launch them so close to each other.

 

[Deleted member 864]

I keep forgetting Battlefield is getting a BR mode.

 

[DailyCalmSpirit]

Apex Legends is the best BR game I've ever played, and I've sunk a lot of time into PubG, Fortnite and Blackout. The gamefeel and QoL features in AL are incredible.

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I'm genuinely glad it's a great game, but, people said TF2 was the best FPS of this gen and no one played it either.

We're one day in on this game. I hope it's a hit but way too early for predictions like this.

 

[Jarrod38]

The BR for BFV should have been at launch but if it was not for this thread I even forgot it had one. Anyways both are going to be different.

 

[Deleted member 18944]

Now that Apex is out and seems to be generating good buzz, Dice is looking even more foolish with their delayed BR mode. EA isn't known for their loving support as it is, and BR needs far more support than traditional MP modes, so I have my doubts that Battlefield is going to succeed in this area.

Do you have any expectations for BF BR at this point?

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Well DICE isn't developing their BR mode and EA has never done a full on GaaS before, not to mention that both Battlefield 3, 4, and 1 had incredible post launch support, so not sure what you're talking about when it comes to the whole "EA isn't known for their loving support" because EA isn't the one supporting these games, it's DICE and their sister studio.

 

[SteveWinwood]

Apex Legends is the best BR game I've ever played, and I've sunk a lot of time into PubG, Fortnite and Blackout. The gamefeel and QoL features in AL are incredible.

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yeah that's great for it

but that doesn't mean it's going to be successful

the unwashed masses have bad taste sometimes

 

[Deleted member 2254]

Battlefield was already going uphill even without Apex Legends, but EA launching a quality F2P BR just a month before BF drops its paid BR that, so far, sounds underwhelming? Good luck.

 

[packy17]

Apex Legends is so good that I think all premium BR games are done for. And yeah, it sucks for DICE.

 

[FeD]

Let's be honest here. I really enjoy Apex, it really does it's own thing.

But I'm dying for another grounded approach next to PUBG. I hope Firestorm nails that.

 

[Ceadeus]

Isn't it Respawn handling Apex? And EA being only the publisher?

 

[Deleted member 36622]

They will support it until the next Battlefield comes out.

As for Apex thing, i bet they will drop it as soon as the playerbase starts to slow down, i don't trust EA on committing to it the same way Epic is doing with Fortnite, not to mention the game seems less accessible (no mobile and no Switch, you're missing a big piece of the audience for these games), it won't reach nowhere near the same success.

 

[Alienous]

Battlefield V's Battle Royale mode will make as the same splash as it would have without APEX existing - not a big one.

 

[Theorry]

BF BR isnt next month. Its part of the a new Tides of War starting next month. But isnt until the end of that Tides of War.

 

[benzopil]

BFV BR is dead anyway

 

[Spookie]

Apex Legends is so good that I think all premium BR games are done for. And yeah, it sucks for DICE.

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The games not even 24 hours old and you've decided every other BR game is done for?

 

[Steiner_Zi]

As for Apex thing, i bet they will drop it as soon as the playerbase starts to slow down, i don't trust EA on committing to it the same way Epic is doing with Fortnite, not to mention the game seems less accessible (no mobile and no Switch, you're missing a big piece of the audience for these games), it won't reach nowhere near the same success.

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Not a fair comparison, Fortnite was not available on mobile and Switch at first either.

 

[NekoNeko]

AL kills all my interest in the CoD and BF BR.

 

[Unclebenny]

These EA bashing threads are becoming tedious.

Fair enough if they were based on something other than rampant speculation.

As has been mentioned, one is F2P, the other is an extra mode in an other wise feature packed game. They are not directly competing. There's not some limited pool of battle royale players in the wold that every game is competing for.

 

[Forerunner]

The thing is I don't see players reinstalling and coming back to BF V to try the BR, especially now that Apex is here. BF should focus on being a good Battlefield game and not adding modes that the core BF community doesn't really care about.

 

[2CL4Mars]

Oh they will, if there's money to be made in both, they will support both of them.

 

[astro]

They will 100% support both, different crowds and BFV BR will surely be very different.

 

[Izzard]

EA already support a host of multiplayer games so I see no reason why 2 BR games will make any difference.

 

[ProstatePuncher]

Battlefield V will have a single mode, Apex Legends is all about battle royale. Two different things.

 

[Deleted member 36622]

Not a fair comparison, Fortnite was not available on mobile and Switch at first either.

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What do you mean by that? This is the state of the market right now, Fortnite and PUBG biggest platform today is probably mobile, and on Switch the attach rate for Fortnite is almost Mario Kart level.

If EA's goal is to have their "Fortnite" then you need to put the game everywhere and lower the minimum spec requirements because even low-end PCs, 2 in 1,... are left out right now. I don't think a Surface Pro can run that.

 

[PintSizedSlasher]

Well DICE isn't developing their BR mode and EA has never done a full on GaaS before, not to mention that both Battlefield 3, 4, and 1 had incredible post launch support, so not sure what you're talking about when it comes to the whole "EA isn't known for their loving support" because EA isn't the one supporting these games, it's DICE and their sister studio.

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The games mentioned all had season passes. The first time EA/DICE ditched that model with Battlefront II it was an absolute shitshow. I loved that game, but the post launch support was horrible. And up till now BFV's isn't looking all that either, so I fully understand OP's worries.

 

[Steiner_Zi]

What do you mean by that? This is the state of the market right now, Fortnite and PUBG biggest platform today is probably mobile, and on Switch the attach rate for Fortnite is almost Mario Kart level.

If EA's goal is to have their "Fortnite" then you need to put the game everywhere and lower the minimum spec requirements because even low-end PCs, 2 in 1,... are left out right now. I don't think a Surface can run that looking at the minimum system requirements.

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Relax, the game came out 24 hours ago.

 

[RoninStrife]

Isnt Criterion and not Dice making the BF V BR mode?
Do they even have experience making a FPS game mode like this?
Hoping for the best.. but not expecting much tbh.

 

[packy17]

The games not even 24 hours old and you've decided every other BR game is done for?

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Not every other BR, just the premium ones.

BFV has already had a rough few months. AL dropped to fantastic reception and is F2P. How does DICE convince people to buy into BFV BR for $60 + live service cosmetic shit now? And as far as Blackout goes... yeah, I'm calling that one. AL is going to kill it's numbers quickly.

 

[Acewon]

Its a really odd decision to launch them so close to eachother but Firestorm will be very different compared to Apex.

Some people dislike futuristic settings and powers. Personally i prefer a more grounded experience and really want something that is more polished than PUBG so im hoping Firestorm will turn out well but im not expecting anything groundbreaking.

 

[Rodjer]

Do they even have experience making a FPS game mode like this?

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Do you need experience tho?

Bluehole was a MMO studio and they made PUBG
Raven never made a BR and they made Blackout
Respawn first BR is Apex Legends
Epic Games never made a BR and Fortnite was their first game.

 

[Com_Raven]

Well DICE isn't developing their BR mode and EA has never done a full on GaaS before, not to mention that both Battlefield 3, 4, and 1 had incredible post launch support, so not sure what you're talking about when it comes to the whole "EA isn't known for their loving support" because EA isn't the one supporting these games, it's DICE and their sister studio.

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I'd have to agree on the "never done a full on GaaS before", unless that definition for you excludes MMORPGs (SWTOR has been running and getting updates for 7 years).

 

[SantaC]

Not every other BR, just the premium ones.

BFV has already had a rough few months. AL dropped to fantastic reception and is F2P. How does DICE convince people to buy into BFV BR for $60 + live service cosmetic shit now? And as far as Blackout goes... yeah, I'm calling that one. AL is going to kill it's numbers quickly.

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BFV was top3 NPD both nov and dec. How is it rough?

 

[Dphex]

Apex Legends is so good that I think all premium BR games are done for. And yeah, it sucks for DICE.

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[NippleViking]

They're going to support whatever makes them a profit.

Apex Legends seems like it will make a profit.

There's nothing to suggest that Battlefield BR won't as well.

 

[infinityBCRT]

Some part of me feels like Zampella pulled a fast one on EA and is getting revenge on Titanfall 2 being sent out to die by making sure Anthem and Battlefield V BR are both going to be afterthoughts compared to Apex Legends.

 

[Spartancarver]

They're different enough to coexist assuming BFV BR actually works and isn't as buggy and unfinished as the main game was.

Apex is polished AF

 

[Zelas]

Are you saying they should put their eggs in one basket even after seeing so many others fail? Or that EA can only afford to publish one game at a time?

 

[WillyFive]

BFV has a pay wall and the BR mode is but one small part of the game, so it's already two different audiences.

 

[test_account]

Well DICE isn't developing their BR mode and EA has never done a full on GaaS before, not to mention that both Battlefield 3, 4, and 1 had incredible post launch support, so not sure what you're talking about when it comes to the whole "EA isn't known for their loving support" because EA isn't the one supporting these games, it's DICE and their sister studio.

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Isnt DICE fully owned by EA, and are basically like any other EA developed games in that regards? If so, you're right that DICE is the one supporting the games that they develope, but i dont think they can do this without EA's approval, so EA would be the one supporting the games further on in that case (paying the developers and says its ok that they work on further updates for a game instead of moving them to a new project).

They will support it until the next Battlefield comes out.

As for Apex thing, i bet they will drop it as soon as the playerbase starts to slow down, i don't trust EA on committing to it the same way Epic is doing with Fortnite, not to mention the game seems less accessible (no mobile and no Switch, you're missing a big piece of the audience for these games), it won't reach nowhere near the same success.

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Its a bit difference with what happened to Fortnite though. Fortnite launched on PS4/Xbox One/PC and kept on growing in popularity once the Battle Royale mode was added. Then Epic Games decided to build on this momentum, making the game for Switch and mobile as well. From what i know, it wasnt a case where Fortnite was dropping in popularity, and Epic Games felt they had to make a Switch and mobile version to stop the decline.

If Apex takes off like Fortnite did, who knows if EA will expand to other platforms. Thats what happened with Fortnite and PUBG. PUBG on mobile is also basically like a seperate game from what i know (no cross play with PC or consoles i think due to the differences). I dont think it can be expected that a brand new game like Apex should be ready for PC/PS4/Xbox One/Switch/mobile all at the same day. Its technically possible, but it also require a lot of more work and investment. If the game cant stay popular on PC/PS4/Xbox One, i'm not sure if adding a Switch and mobile version will change much.

 

[Agent 47]

I'm genuinely glad it's a great game, but, people said TF2 was the best FPS of this gen and no one played it either.

We're one day in on this game. I hope it's a hit but way too early for predictions like this.

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Sales are not an indication of quality. TF2 is one of the best shooters.