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I firmly believe if Kid Icarus: Uprising was a Wii U release instead of 3DS, it’d be viewed as one of the greatest games of all time.
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But it is one of the greatest games of all time, 3DS or not. I've never encountered someone who has said, "Man, KIU is one of the best games of all time... but it's not on Wii U, so actually not really."
I want a console port with revised controls as much as anyone who knows how impossibly special and heads-and-tails above most everything else KIU is, but even if it never gets a second chance at life outside the 3DS, it's still one of the greatest games ever.
I want a console port with revised controls as much as anyone who knows how impossibly special and heads-and-tails above most everything else KIU is, but even if it never gets a second chance at life outside the 3DS, it's still one of the greatest games ever.
KI:U was crazy good.
2 glaring problems that hold it back for me (besides the controls, which I thought were ok) are the frequent unskippable segments where you're not doing anything but listening to dialogue, which makes replays of the game kinda meh, and the weapon system. Both multiplayer and higher difficulty singleplayer relies too heavily on having a good weapon more than player skill. And getting good weapons is grindy and confusing.
2 glaring problems that hold it back for me (besides the controls, which I thought were ok) are the frequent unskippable segments where you're not doing anything but listening to dialogue, which makes replays of the game kinda meh, and the weapon system. Both multiplayer and higher difficulty singleplayer relies too heavily on having a good weapon more than player skill. And getting good weapons is grindy and confusing.
Why would I? The only similarity is that both don't require a TV/monitor. The games on each platform are fundamentally designed differently by control options alone. The fact that handheld games usually had to get their own separate category in GOTYs from console/PC games is already bullshit; adding mobile to the pool like both are lesser brothers that work the same is even worse.
I've never played it, but I've seen so many people say how this is one of the best Nintendo games they ever made and one of the best games they've ever played.
I could believe this
I could believe this
Iwata pitched the development of a brand new game to Sakurai (in 2008) solely for the upcoming 3DS, Kid Icarus Uprising, hell, the entire project of a non-Smash title developed by Sakurai wouldn't have existed without the 3DS.
Both the base concept of the game and the hardware are so intertwined (for better or for worse) that it seems silly to imagine a "what if" scenario.
Both the base concept of the game and the hardware are so intertwined (for better or for worse) that it seems silly to imagine a "what if" scenario.
Bayonetta 2 is ranked top 20 by Edge I think.
DK Tropical Freeze is one of the best 2D platformers in years.
Bayonetta 2 is ranked top 20 by Edge I think.
DK Tropical Freeze is one of the best 2D platformers in years.
I really couldn't manage either the controls on the 3ds, so never finished it, would be nice to experience it where it isn't hurting my hands, anyone emulated it and does it control ok emulated?
It's one of the greatest games of all time already as far as I'm concerned, and it probably would have bombed on the Wii U so it's hard for me to agree with your take to be honest, OP. In the end I'm sure more people were able to appreciate it in the way it released.
That said I agree that it deserves some kind of remaster, and I'm sure it could be appreciated by even more people that way since I realize the controls bothered a decent amount of people. Put it on Switch.
That said I agree that it deserves some kind of remaster, and I'm sure it could be appreciated by even more people that way since I realize the controls bothered a decent amount of people. Put it on Switch.
THIS.
The awkward control scheme was what you obtain if you try to cram a Wiimote + nunchuck control scheme on a portable.
If this game was published on the old Wii, it would be considerated a masterpiece at the same level of the two Mario Galaxy. Instead...
Sadly, also this.
That should tell you all you need to know. Not really talking top tier universal GOTY material here.
It is a tailor-made 3DS game, though - be it the level design that has to acomodate for the zoomed-in FOV or enemy placement and aiming difficulty made possible by the stylus aiming.
Uprising won't ever be as impressive on any other platform as it was on the 3DS and that's why a successor is sorely needed to convince the general audience of the qualities present in Uprising.
Uprising won't ever be as impressive on any other platform as it was on the 3DS and that's why a successor is sorely needed to convince the general audience of the qualities present in Uprising.
I dunno. Tropical Freeze was only recognized on the Switch, and it's the best 2D platformer ever.
Kid Icarus is far and away the best 3DS game, so there's that.
Kid Icarus is far and away the best 3DS game, so there's that.
Ironically it's one of the few games where I found the 3D effect great to see.
Dual sticks would lower the difficulty of the game, it just wouldn't be the same.
The Wii U GamePad had a resistive touchscreen like the 3DS so if the game was on Wii U it would've been better with the same touch controls anyway and not dual sticks.
With resistive touchscreens gone now I don't see how a remaster would work while keeping the original gameplay intact.
Dual sticks would lower the difficulty of the game, it just wouldn't be the same.
The Wii U GamePad had a resistive touchscreen like the 3DS so if the game was on Wii U it would've been better with the same touch controls anyway and not dual sticks.
With resistive touchscreens gone now I don't see how a remaster would work while keeping the original gameplay intact.
It was such a departure from usual Nintendo, but still with their lighter touch.
It was a true AAA release squeezed onto a system that really didn't deserve it. I would put it in a category with Prime and BotW as something truly special out of them.
It was a true AAA release squeezed onto a system that really didn't deserve it. I would put it in a category with Prime and BotW as something truly special out of them.
Jokes on you it's already one of the greatest games of all time.
It wouldn't have made much of a difference and would've sold worse on Wii U.
Will we ever get a Switch remaster? I hear so many good things about it but I refused to play video games on 3DS even 6 years ago.
Zelda BotW is a Wii U game, it also had W101, Bayo 2, DK Tropical Freeze, more games than I remember the 3DS by at least.
KI:U was an amazing game and my favourite game on the hardware. Such fantastic writing and voice work too, wow.
I don't know if I agree with the OP. To change the game to a dual analog setup would require retooling the entire game. It could have been done I guess but it would have been different. Also, the graphics and environments would have needed major upgrading. The levels are rather linear and plain for a console release.
With that said, I'd love for this remastering and retooling to happen. The story, the characters, the gameplay variety and depth, it deserves better than to be stuck on the 3DS with a painful control scheme.
I don't know if I agree with the OP. To change the game to a dual analog setup would require retooling the entire game. It could have been done I guess but it would have been different. Also, the graphics and environments would have needed major upgrading. The levels are rather linear and plain for a console release.
With that said, I'd love for this remastering and retooling to happen. The story, the characters, the gameplay variety and depth, it deserves better than to be stuck on the 3DS with a painful control scheme.
Really? I wonder how that could be...
Funny, that.
Then would've been ported to Switch for a huge fanbase to get to play it.
i really want to play this. port it to switch nintendo, everything sells there, i'm sure KI can as well.
Yes
Oh yes, 2 or 3 games in one.
I'm with you.
It is one of the greatest... Whenever anyone asked me what 3DS game to get once people started buying 3DS ... I told them Kid icarus uprising. I'd have loved a wii U port... or sequel ... but yeah ... I think it's synonymous with 3DS...
Dual sticks would not work.
Also I'm not sure I get the premise?
KI isnt good cause 3DS?
being held back by 3DS?
would have done better on wii U?
None of those things I feel are true.
the controls do NOT hold this game back.
The only thing holding it back is people's own ridiculous refusal to play it.
Dual sticks would not work.
Also I'm not sure I get the premise?
KI isnt good cause 3DS?
being held back by 3DS?
would have done better on wii U?
None of those things I feel are true.
the controls do NOT hold this game back.
The only thing holding it back is people's own ridiculous refusal to play it.
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I get the feeling you should look into some of the newer models like New 2DS XL. It's much easier on the hands than OG 3DS, if that's what it's about.
One of the best titles on the 3ds. And that's saying something cause depending on how you hold stuff. It physically hurt to play this game
This is a Kid Icarus: Uprising thread so I am required to post in it.
That said, I don't quite agree with the thesis. Uprising would have been a different game had Sakurai made it for Wii U. He very consciously designed KI:U around the 3DS unique feature set. There's no guarantee we would have gotten the weapon system without streepassing gems, idols without AR cards, ongoing chitter-chatter without close-ish dual screens, or intensity gate and fiend's cauldron without the wide spectrum of challenge and mastery which the controls allowed for. Kid Icarus on the Wii U could have just been Starfox Zero.
That said, I don't quite agree with the thesis. Uprising would have been a different game had Sakurai made it for Wii U. He very consciously designed KI:U around the 3DS unique feature set. There's no guarantee we would have gotten the weapon system without streepassing gems, idols without AR cards, ongoing chitter-chatter without close-ish dual screens, or intensity gate and fiend's cauldron without the wide spectrum of challenge and mastery which the controls allowed for. Kid Icarus on the Wii U could have just been Starfox Zero.
Huh? People here have been hailing Tropical Freeze as one of the best 2D platformers ever since its release.
My fav 3ds game of all time. Yeah, would've been awesome on Wii u too. Maybe we'll get a sequel on the Switch someday.
They'd have to neuter the game to work on a control scheme on the Wii U or switch.
Oddly enough, the better platform for it would have been the Wii, but they missed that chance.
Oddly enough, the better platform for it would have been the Wii, but they missed that chance.
