two dual shock controllers are more expensive than one xbox controller with 4 eneloops and the recharge kit.
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I don’t understand the argument that a controller with a built in battery is superior to a controller that uses AA batteries.
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two dual shock controllers are more expensive than one xbox controller with 4 eneloops and the recharge kit.
I wish the PS4 controllers lasted longer, I guess. I like how my Wii U Pro controller could just hold a charge for a fucking month.
But it's never actually bothered me. Play, out on the charger, done. Thousands of hours of play though and they still last longer than I need, so there's really no problem.
So it's just vastly more convenient to me.
But it's never actually bothered me. Play, out on the charger, done. Thousands of hours of play though and they still last longer than I need, so there's really no problem.
So it's just vastly more convenient to me.
I suppose if you treat your game hardware like disposable stuff you'll just toss in the trash one day, then sure, it makes sense that you don't care about proprietary, non-replaceable batteries. If you're wanting to hold on to these things for 20+ years, then standard rechargeable batteries are gold.
OG GBA - two AA Eneloops, replaced whenever I need them, beautiful.
PSP - nearly impossible to find a decent replacement battery these days, bullshit.
OG GBA - two AA Eneloops, replaced whenever I need them, beautiful.
PSP - nearly impossible to find a decent replacement battery these days, bullshit.
I used to use play and change but they always go faulty and are unreliable. Since i switched to eneloops they have been great, no problems.
But yes what u say is just the way things are. Overall its not a bad way of doing things.
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But then I already had two Dualshocks, and I can play local coop with them, too.
Can I do that with your cheaper set up? I'll have the controller and the other player will control the game with the 4 eneloops? If yes, you've convinced me.
Speaking of which, I had to pull mine out the other day because the rechagable battery in the PSP had become swollen over time. It was extremely nerve wracking because I had to use a screw driver to pry it out, and the entire time I was worried I'd puncture it and start a fire.
True, and it's not exactly hard to find a cheap or used DS4 these days to use as a secondary either, if you don't already own one
...but for $25 you could also buy a 4 pack of Eneloops and a charger
2 Eneloops = 30+ hours of playtime per charge
and just swap them out once every week or two
or for $25 you could buy just one Play n Charge kit
1 Play n Charge kit = 30+ hours of playtime per charge
and just charge it overnight once every week or two
The EU had recently made some new laws about sustainability and electronic, replaceable parts is part of that. Perhaps we will have a repairable renaissance
I don't like batteries, I have no desire to take them out and replace them with new ones. It's just a hassle really from my point of view.
It's more convenient to just recharge the controller. I have 2 DS4 so if one dies I'll just take the other.
That said, I wouldn't mind a better battery for the Dualsense, one that would last twice as long with faster recharge.
It's more convenient to just recharge the controller. I have 2 DS4 so if one dies I'll just take the other.
That said, I wouldn't mind a better battery for the Dualsense, one that would last twice as long with faster recharge.
What if I run out of batteries? Sometimes it does happen. I would rather just plug it in to charge or set it on top of the console to charge if possible then change batteries every month. I have 3-4 that i cycle through and charge. (i try to limit use of the 20th anniversary one but it is open.....i guess you cant really baby them).
Besides charging extra on top of a full price controller lacking a battery, the xbox style play and charge kit is a real best of both worlds solution. A controller with a aa bay and a lipo module included would be the best.
Think about how the xbox v2 elite controller uses an internal rechargeable battery. You have to buy the super premium version to get it so it must be more desireable in at least some sense.
Think about how the xbox v2 elite controller uses an internal rechargeable battery. You have to buy the super premium version to get it so it must be more desireable in at least some sense.
Didn't read post...gonna guess poster doesn't have kids who always leave stuff on or use and leave the scraps.
The battery pack in one of my Xbox One controllers died recently, and luckily I had a bunch of unused AA batteries in the cupboard and was able to get right back to gaming.
Being able to charge my controller is a lot more convenient, but that little incident helped me appreciate the benefits of simply having a choice. Both have their pros and cons.
Being able to charge my controller is a lot more convenient, but that little incident helped me appreciate the benefits of simply having a choice. Both have their pros and cons.
I'd sooner expect them to just make an EU-only variant of the phone.
I bought a small set of AA and AAA rechargeable batteries like 6 years ago and haven't used a disposable battery since.
They're really only used in my Xbox controllers, Wii controllers, and a couple remote controls.
The Play and Charge kit for the Xbox controllers is best if that's all you need batteries for. No reason to keep buying tons of disposable batteries.
They're really only used in my Xbox controllers, Wii controllers, and a couple remote controls.
The Play and Charge kit for the Xbox controllers is best if that's all you need batteries for. No reason to keep buying tons of disposable batteries.
As a couch gamer in the living room, I like to shove the controller in a drawer when I'm not playing rather than plug it in to a USB for charging. I got 48x AAs from Costco for around a tenner and that has set me up for years with the Xbox controller.
I find the DS4 less convenient, firstly because of the short battery life, but also because it's often dead or near dead whenever I come to use it and it's not like I can just shove a couple of batteries in it and away we go. I literally can't play on my PS4 until they've finished charging as the charge cable isn't long enough and I can't be arsed buying an 8 foot+ cable and dealing with that.
Options are best. Everyone will have their own opinion on this. So MS would do extremely well to include a play and charge kit with every console/controller, then the option is there by default and they have the best solution. That said, the Xbox Elite V2 controller doesn't have the option of AA batteries.
I find the DS4 less convenient, firstly because of the short battery life, but also because it's often dead or near dead whenever I come to use it and it's not like I can just shove a couple of batteries in it and away we go. I literally can't play on my PS4 until they've finished charging as the charge cable isn't long enough and I can't be arsed buying an 8 foot+ cable and dealing with that.
Options are best. Everyone will have their own opinion on this. So MS would do extremely well to include a play and charge kit with every console/controller, then the option is there by default and they have the best solution. That said, the Xbox Elite V2 controller doesn't have the option of AA batteries.
Actually, yeah. An easily accesable (1 screw) bay for a generic lipo would be my preference. Then I can replace/upgrade with any of my choosing, remove for long term storage, and not even think about it otherwise.
I think you two are forgetting what the average controller was like in the 90's. AAs in a controller is a distinctly 00's period. Wavebird, Xbox, Wii. And I have a nice set of rechargeables and a dock for 4 Wiimotes so that's been great.
Meanwhile the AA batteries in my Wavebird haven't died after 6 months of use now.
And let me just find that replacement battery for my PSP...
In actuality, it's probably the people still playing their game boy *cough like me cough* who are aware of how useful having standardized, replaceable parts for things that are volatile are.
Strangely enough I've basically removed battery remotes from my house. I use the Apple TV for apps and my phone in the rare instances i need to change my tv settings
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Having a long USB cable running from my couch to the console under my tv is a much bigger inconvenience than replacing the batteries in my controller, which takes about 30 seconds.
You know, maybe Microsoft should just ship Xbox controllers with two eneloops inside. I'm pretty sure Logitech did something similar with its rechargeable MX Revolution mouse years ago. It was literally just a single eneloop inside, but you could still plug the mouse in to charge the eneloop.
Also, the argument that you should just have two separate controllers to get around having to wait for one to charge is really dumb. The argument that you should pick up a used rechargeable controller if you're that strapped for cash is even dumber, as the battery is probably already worn down to some extent.
Also, the argument that you should just have two separate controllers to get around having to wait for one to charge is really dumb. The argument that you should pick up a used rechargeable controller if you're that strapped for cash is even dumber, as the battery is probably already worn down to some extent.
Built in Battery: "Oh no my controller's running out of charge!" > "plugs in usb charager usually connected to console, continues playing as it charges"
AA Batteries: "Oh no my controllers running out of charge!" > "finds charged batteries" > "opens back of controller" > "removes dry batteries" > "inserts new batteries" > " closes up back of controller" > "inserts old batteries to be charged" > "can finally game again"
AA Batteries: "Oh no my controllers running out of charge!" > "finds charged batteries" > "opens back of controller" > "removes dry batteries" > "inserts new batteries" > " closes up back of controller" > "inserts old batteries to be charged" > "can finally game again"
I get your point, but I'm talking from a design perspective. Internal components can fitted around the internal battery more flexibly and the more unique/advanced features you want to pack in there the harder I imagine it is to design a controller around the placement of the AA compartment which is immovable from the back to anywhere else on the controller. Both controllers you compare may be a similar size but one has features like a touchpad and lightbar, and the other one doesn't. If the DualShock 4 had AAs, you could imagine just how challenging it would be to design around it with these extra features.
that's because the actual, real argument boils down to "this is the way my favorite game company does it, so I'm going to pretend it's the only modern way to do things and you guys just don't understand their vision for technology"
same shit that happens in the phone market
same shit that happens in the phone market
Why is it dumb? Many people have multiple controllers, to play with family or friends, so you already have the solution without even trying. Why is it dumber than having to have spare batteries charged just in case? That you may find that have been used by another family member without you noticing when you need them. Or find that those aren't fully charged either
yeah, exactly this. this isn't an issue today, but in years when we are looking at the current batch of consoles as legacy items built in batteries are going to pose a genuine option
standardised replaceable batteries will always, always be the better option
I woudn't complain if the PS4 controllers had a AA battery option.
Sometimes you just have no charge and the you sit far from the tv.. the batteries would come really handy in that moment.
Sometimes you just have no charge and the you sit far from the tv.. the batteries would come really handy in that moment.
People are asking for the option to replace the battery easily, not necessarily for AA batteries. Internal batteries in cellphones is not done to be convenient, it's a strategic move so that companies like Apple, Samsung and Google can charge you an obscene amount of money to replace the battery or worst, force the customer to buy a new device. So many products today are built under the guise of convenience, when in reality it's meant to make it as inconvenient and difficult to self service as possible. There was a time when replacing a battery in a cell phone was as simple as sliding the back off and replacing the battery.
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This is one of my biggest concerns about wanting to switch to a PS5 next gen. I hate the idea of having to plug a long ass usb cable in when the controller dies. My cat would inevitably fuck with the cable running across my living room too, which would be annoying.
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The scenario you describe re: USB cables is literally how it also works with the Xbox One controller.
Oh I agree OPs framing doesn't help but I'm kinda surprised how strongly people feel about batteries