Depression is the only thing that can explain a lot of the stuff said around these parts.
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I Do Not Understand Not Having A Child Because Of "Climate Change" And The Like
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Depression is the only thing that can explain a lot of the stuff said around these parts.
I think the world has actually gotten much worse from the time I was born. Give me the old days of Nintendo, and TV shows, and Sega and VCRs and such.
When the world discovered globalisation in the form of the internet, laws and being kind to one another went out the window.
When the world discovered globalisation in the form of the internet, laws and being kind to one another went out the window.
You know, with all your other replies that I have seen, maybe you should wake up and realize that you're
A:) absolutely up your own ass
B:) contributing nothing to this thread other than making it much more shitty
Sometimes I think I'm not depressed because the last thing I want to do is kill myself, but maybe I am a little depressed. I feel like my self esteem has dropped significantly since like 10 years ago, and its noticeable. It's the first time I'm admitting it.
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Put together the argument that the world in 2100 for in-land Americans will be worse than the world for the life of children living in 1960 Africa.
When should have people in Africa not have had children.
Also, you seem like an alt account.
"Dual Income + No Kids" and I'm guessing "Single Income + No Kids".
Dual income no kids and single income no kids.
It's unreal that people who want to have kids are being compared by some here to climate change deniers. Jesus Christ.
No, you were just young and naive and ignorant back then and aren't now.
Where I live the water is already becoming scarcer by the day, climate change isn't something that's gonna happen in the far future it's something that's happening now. If you can't see it I don't know what to tell you, I'd hate to bring children to this planet knowing that food and water are gonna be harder to come by and also this world is going haywire, killings left and right, racism, bigotry, hatred just keeps on growing and I don't see how it all could be turned back or reversed. This world is going down the shitter and I don't wanna bring a child that I'll love because I know that I'll eventually die and won't be able to protect them from it (the world and it's inhabitants).
I have kids and am deathly terrified for their future. Its not that i think the end is unavoidable, its that the people who really have the power to change it dont care.
At the same time i think its a weak arguement to think simply not having kids is doing enough. You can not have kids but still live a life that leads to a humongous carbon footprint. Not having kids doesnt automatically absolve you from being part of the problem.
At the same time i think its a weak arguement to think simply not having kids is doing enough. You can not have kids but still live a life that leads to a humongous carbon footprint. Not having kids doesnt automatically absolve you from being part of the problem.
You talk like the world revolves around the US alone. Like I said, you're not contributing anything to this conversation other than "hurr durr, but the United States would be totally fine lol", which is completely not true. And comparing stats few decades apart is the most stupidest thing that has been typed out by you so far.
Maybe for once, you should actually start searching up on "critical thinking". Or maybe that's too much for you.
What are you talking about
My argument: People who say "the world be so much worse in the future due to climate change that people shouldn't have kids!" are extremely, aggressively stupid as there's basically no chance the future is as bad as like the 1700s... When people were still willing to have kids. The only people who are not aggressively stupid while stating this opinion are people begging for attention.
What is your argument.
Do you have an argument
Could you switch back to your main account.
You keep mentioning "inland Americans." Are the only people whose suffering/lack of matter to you the ones who think Olive Garden is high cuisine?
Your argument of things not being as bad as the 1700's is not only dumb, because of the difference in population and living standards, but claiming that "yeah maybe we should have kids due to the overwhelming facts" is stupid means you're ignorant of the world at large.
Yeah people will still have kids, but maybe, not having one due to climate change is legit for once due to all the suffering you would have to go through at that time.
And if we were talking about the 1700's, people had kids at that time sure, but the mortality rate was so much higher than today and the literature rate so much lower. People were as dumb as you almost.
So like
Life in Africa was very bad in the 1980s.
Were the people really dumb to have kids then.
Is every young adult African a mistake made by dumb parents.
Did your ancestors make mistakes by having kids in the Dark Ages or other times of strife due to stupidity.
Genuinely curious when people are stupid for having kids because this argument seems eliminationist, edgelordy, and nihilistic.
Also, this is an incredibly sad meltdown. Switch back to your main account please.
well they don't like abortion because it would remove more potential people in the market
He switched to an alt account to argue people are dumb to have kids and is randomly screaming at me.
I feel like... that's pretty sad?
If your grandparents were too worried to have children because they might have just died in the world war back then, you probably wouldn't be here browsing this site.
Just to be clear, people who believed in stuff like The Population Bomb, etc, were extremely stupid people who were mocked relentlessly by history.
Even if you're an eliminationist, maybe just try not to embarrass yourself by saying so.
Even if you're an eliminationist, maybe just try not to embarrass yourself by saying so.
I don't think you understand the problem that is climate change in the first place. This is so much more worst than whatever example you're giving me. The state of the earth and the world at large is so much more different currently. Imagine the future where you can't even have a house over your head, or water, or even food.
The reason why people are able to propagate is because they're fulfilling maslow hierarchy of need. Climate change is going to make that not happen.
Okay so
Literally no projection of climate change I've seen has suggested that life for future Americans (and I focus on America because that's most of the people on the site) will be worse than in 1800s America.
We have a massive amount of food, water, and land in the United States.
Link me to the models you're referencing to, please
And switch to your main account?
I miss my youth of going to blockbuster and Hollywood video in the 90's with my parents on Friday nights. Me and my brothers trying to decide which game to rent. Great times.
Ppl looked happier back then too. Now everyone looks depressed and angry all the time. Especially at my job. Jeez.
I love the crux of your argument where you compare America in the 1800's and its future.
Where let's the current population of the US is 340 million compared to 5 million in 1800.
And "We have a massive amount of food, water, and land in the United States." like it's not going to change due to climate change. Yeah sure, enjoy your land, and your food lol
Might want to check your models there chief.
Also what is this fucking argument? "People had it worse before so you can't ever complain."
Somehow I don't think people are comforted by this dumb idea that suddenly losing a couple hundred years of progress is no big deal. We lived through the Middle ages with serfdom, crushing poverty, starvation and rampant disease, are you that shocked if someone isn't interested in reliving that?
The conditions in which people in the past had children in is incredibly relevant to "will the future be so bad that we shouldn't have children????!?"
Please link to your models that suggest life in the United States will be worse than in the 1890s or something.
Yeah I call shit on that, you're out of the loop. Also stop with the alt account bullshit, why are you back seat modding?
I'm not sure how that reasoning is more unbelievable to you than the weirdos who don't want kids because they claim to flat out dislike children universally. Regardless of whether you agree with the rationale, at least it's a fear based on strong evidence for how the world may look in a few decades rather than wherever the hell the other thing is coming from.
I have worked in freshwater research.
Like 70-80% of the freshwater used (in Utah at least) is used by farms who waste a huge amount of it and they could easily reduce water consumption a huge amount. If the government gave farms subsidies to install more water efficient delivery systems, we probably won't have many freshwater issues.
We also had children when we lived in caves and didn't know about fucking fire. We could literally have a nuclear holocaust tomorrow and people could still technically live better than we did back then. But you'll be wandering the irradiated wasteland going " WHAT ARE YOU GUYS EVEN WORRIED ABOUT, WE'VE HAD WORSE, SUCK IT UP."
Sorry, I don't actually give a shit about what life in the United States is going to be like. I live in a place called "The rest of the world".
What are you talking about?
Me: "People were willing to have kids in times much worse than the future will be. Arguing it's unethical to have kids now is really weird Kind of have to argue it was dumb for people in Africa to have kids at any point going by this hyper nihilistic argument."
You: "Oh, so you're saying we shouldn't care about climate change???"
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Could you show a model where life in your country will be much worse than 120 years ago then.
100% agree. Using climate change as an argument is generally people trying to put a holier-than-thou justification on what is actually them doing it for selfish reasons.
I've seen people here say things like "it's bad for the environment" and then "I enjoy travelling" in the same post lol.
I agree 100%. Kids these days are like already coding and my parents don't even know how to log into their email. Children are our only hope. Boomers were a mistake.
if you've 'read the science' as you proclaimed, then no, the 2020s will not be the last 'normal' decade. It will get 'worse', yes. But it ain't gonna be 'Fallout' by the 2030s (unless Kim Jung Un launched a nuke or something).
What the heck is this nonsense. Are you that desperate to snidely dismiss people who call you out that you just randomly accuse them of being an alt account?
You're supposed to teach them to take care of themselves when you eventually die. That's called parenting, it's kind of a big thing. I won't lie, it's tough to realize how soon they won't be in your arms and you won't be able to protect them from the world, and it's hard to accept, but every parent in the history of the world has gone through it, and most of them didn't lose their minds. You probably won't either.
If someone is saying things like they are not having children because of climate change they most likely wouldn't in the first place.
I honestly believe that anyone who says this wasn't planning on having kids anyway and this is the reasoning they give to get brownie points on the internet.
It just reeks of fatalistic bullshit akin to the medieval belief that the end of the world was nigh.
It's weird as fuck. It's in line with some of the other performative nonsense that crops up here and elsewhere online. People want to make themselves out to be a martyr, or as if they are making this grand noble gesture for humanity. No real life person is sitting at home with their partner going "gee we both really want kids, but let's not because the world could be bad shape in the next 30+ years." You don't want kids because you don't want them, and it's primarily for selfish reasons. There's nothing wrong with that, just own it.
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