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I didn't know Eric Clapton was an anti-lockdown, racist dude
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I'm sorry, but given the context of the thread this was your initial take:
The information you conveyed: He played black music. Friends with a famous black musician. Has sex with black women. Drugs make you an asshole.
The problem I took with your post is that is has absolutely NONE of the context you're applying to it now. So at best it was just poorly worded. That's the best I can really give you on it, lol. At worst it reads like you're ignoring the racism. Because to be blunt: You did, lol. In a thread about Claptons racism you simply pointed out that he played black music, had a black friend and had sex w/ black women. Then said drugs did it and left it at that.
Just to be clear: I'm not talking about what you meant or felt. I'm talking about what your words actually were.
It's always funny to see a new generation learn about the shittiness of Clapton in real time. His music fucking sucks too.
Well, Bowie was a bit of a weird one. Yes, he said that and yes he was probably very high on drugs when he did, but it's vague whether he said it as David Bowie.
Bowie had these musical characters and at the time he had the Thin White Duke, who was in his songs also not entirely against fascism and kind of a shithead. So Bowie saying that was probably his roleplay, taken to a way too extreme level due to the drugs and the aura of invincibility that I would guess comes with being one of the most famous stars on the planet.
How did I never know about this, holy shit.
I only like(d) one Clapton song, but fuck me that's a fucked up ass world view.
I only like(d) one Clapton song, but fuck me that's a fucked up ass world view.
Nah we ain't excusing Bowie through fanfiction.
Don't get me wrong, it is a reallyfucked up quote and it was needed and good that he was called out on it, but I do think that Bowie's roleplay as his characters back in the 70's does make it significantly different than what people like Clapton said. Of course, in the end it's all a matter of opinion whether or not Bowie was true to himself when he said that or was playing up a role enhanced by drugs and other stuff since he was a bit of an enigma when it came to his political views.
Was Roger Waters a fascist? He's always taken sides against fascism and any horrible shit Israel did. Him being a shitty person personally (towards Pink Floyd, etc.) is another topic, but his overall views aren't horrible.
I know who he is but never liked his music tbh, just never clicked with me.
But good to know he's a trash person. Gives me extra satisfaction knowing that Hendrix dunked on him in front of everyone and made Claptop look like a clown, to the point of Clapton running backstage and physically shaking.
But good to know he's a trash person. Gives me extra satisfaction knowing that Hendrix dunked on him in front of everyone and made Claptop look like a clown, to the point of Clapton running backstage and physically shaking.
Stopped bending the rules for your personal heroes. Bowie was an asshole and a sex offender.
I love their music, bu I hate Eric Clapton and Mike Love as people. They're as shitty as they can be.
I can understand supporting some conservative ideas but you have to a special kind of asshole to be anti-immigration. How can you be against something that doesn't concern you at all? Right to relocate is one of the most basic human rights, you basically are against a human right.
I can understand supporting some conservative ideas but you have to a special kind of asshole to be anti-immigration. How can you be against something that doesn't concern you at all? Right to relocate is one of the most basic human rights, you basically are against a human right.
Never disputed that, he probably was an asshole, a lot of famous musicians were/are. I generally don't do heroes because you can only be disappointed by them. I'm just saying I'm not quite sure if that quote one time is enough to paint him as also a borderline neo-Nazi. But yeah, I'll stop.
He called hitler a rockstar, not sure how much more he can say. He also had sex with a 13 year old and her 14 year old friend. Sex creep, racist, asshole. Fuck him. Not sure why he gets a pass.
I used to give him a pass after what happened to his son.
but you have to learn to deal with the anger and the hatred and he really hasn't.
I mean he wrote Layla to convince a woman to cheat on her husband with him. We have always known he had a long piece of shit streak in him.
that's why I voted for "I didn't know it was this bad". Because I knew he was one, just assumed that it continued because of anger over what happened
but you have to learn to deal with the anger and the hatred and he really hasn't.
I mean he wrote Layla to convince a woman to cheat on her husband with him. We have always known he had a long piece of shit streak in him.
that's why I voted for "I didn't know it was this bad". Because I knew he was one, just assumed that it continued because of anger over what happened
I only learned this today too. But I guess I'm just glad I wasn't a big fan or anything. I only know him for his three songs I know. Layla, Tears in Heaven and Layla.
Roger Waters has been a vocal socialist throughout his life and his lyrics have always challenged fascism, not sure what you're talking about.
(Though unfortunately he did collaborate with Eric Clapton in the 80s)
i guess i was just thinking of some of the stuff near the end of the wall
maybe he doesn't believe that stuff
He was praising Enoch Powell in the mid 2000s!
The "Rivers of Blood" Speech is super racist, and wasn't given in reaction to some immigration legislation or anything, but instead The Race Relations Act of 1968, banning racial discrimination in housing and employment.
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It's crazy how little stuff like this is known. He's always been very open about his hardcore racism.
Eric Clapton? More like
Maybe I'm just tired and delirious after a long day, but this had me shedding actual tears of laughter.
Eh, most famous musicians who are probably innocent teamed up with Clapton. He's one of the biggest guitarists, it'd be hard to avoid. Not excusing what he said, though.
Roger Waters is a bit of a dick but he isn't horrible in his views. Just a bit of a dick.
Not to be a dick but have you never had a white friend?
Having relationships with black people while being racist against black people is hardly some unknown mind boggling phenomena, it's super common basic racist shit
I vaguely knew Clapton had said some questionable stuff but had no idea of the massive extent of it.
Yeah that's just a part of the story of The Wall, not him praising fascism...
Holy fucking shit if you could have seen my face when I read this
welp, wish i hadn't thrown away the vinyls my uncle left me then
