The main point of the OT was that HLA seems to be a groundbreaking FPS that reinvents the genre on VR, so it would fit the reasons for 95+...
Mind you I believe it will score in the low 90s, as i can clearly see some core complains VR -related.
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I believe Half Life Alyx has a good chance in becoming the highest rated game of all time.
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Mind you I believe it will score in the low 90s, as i can clearly see some core complains VR -related.
You may well be right and Alyx could be able to crack the MC glass ceiling on these merits alone. But I'll be surprised to see it happen.
We'll have to wait and see, but I wanted to give my take on why those FPS preconceptions won't apply. Now it's up to Valve whether the stage they've been given was executed as well as they hoped.
Its not uncommon at all to have publications give a review of a game to somebody who isn't part of the fanbase already. If that was the norm, video game reviews would become even more of an echo chamber than they already are. There's a balance, sure, but Alyx isn't in a very niche subgenre like visual novels that are adapted for NA or EU markets. It has decently broad appeal outside of VR and thus shouldn't only be reviewed by people who are ingrained within the VR ecosystem.
Of course if the reviewer isn't responsible they may criticize the game more harshly than it deserves because they aren't accustomed to VR, their body doesn't handle it well, whatever. That would be unfortunate. However, if VR is going to break into the mainstream we have to allow new people to experience it and talk about it and not automatically consider their opinions invalid.
So I imagine there will be a few reviews that score "low" (80's) because the reviewer isn't used to VR or there is some aspect that hinders their enjoyment that many who are used to the systems wouldn't find an issue. But doesn't that occur in most reviews? There is some aspect of a game that many who like the genre are accustomed to or don't dislike as much?
So I'm guessing in the low to mid 90's. Not best of all time.
Well, tbf Eric Wolpaw is a writer(Episodes 1 and 2) and they heavily consulted with Marc Laidlaw.
I feel this way. PCVR games do not get a ton of critic reviews, but this one might and its going to be a whole lot of first impressions. For that reason, I'm not sure it will get out of the 80's.
If anything, the first impressions will only push the score up because it will feel more fresh and be easier to blow minds.
I think it was Portal 2? So around 9 years. However, they have a lot of talent working on Alyx. People that worked on the original games along with new talent(campo) as well. Have games changed all that much?
Perhaps. It will also be the first time a lot of folks realize they don't like VR or they get sick easily and potentially blame the game. Time will tell. Soon. Hope it does great though. I'm ready.
I can't imagine this will be much of an issue. VR has routinely blown people away for years. For Alyx to be one of your first VR titles paired with the Index units that I'm sure got sent out to reviewers, well that's the best position anyone could be in.
Sickness is accommodated for very well in Alyx. Valve were resistant to smooth locomotion for a long while even. It will certainly have less sickness complaints than HL1/HL2 which scored 96s. Well, unless Valve makes it hard to find the locomotion options. In my current project I have users set their comfort options once upon first time playing so they can't skip over it.
I am actually playing through Portal 2 on a Valve kick right now. It is still a great game, but I think Half-Life 2 hasnt aged as well. However, I said the same thing about Doom 3 and Doom 2016 with id and I was pleasantly surprised so here's hoping!
I'm more than good if it manages to be a 90-95 game and a game of the year nominee on several respected sources.
Yea I have to agree about HL not aging that great. I understand that it had an impact on gaming and most things were adopted in large after them. However, this is a new medium and the thought of HL in VR just makes a ton of sense so I'm hoping for the best.
Also, 2 of the writers for Alyx wrote Portal 2 so it has a ton of potential!
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I just finished playing half-life 1 in preparation for Alyx, and I gotta say it was awesome. I did play it in VR on the Oculus quest, which I'm sure made it a lot more fun, but the level design and audio are so good I was super immersed throughout.
I had to skip basically the entire PS1/Saturn/N64 generation because such a high percentage of the games made me sick. (and still do on the original hardware)
Things improved quite a bit after that, but I couldn't make it 10 minutes into Half-Life 2 without throwing up.
There was an early PS4 game called Daylight that was a total vomit comet.
I've been playing VR stuff for 3.5 years and have been able to play a wide range of games comfortably.
Some of it can definitely make me sick, but most of the problem games have options that enable me to play them in some capacity.
Maybe user reviews, but not professional reviews. A lot of the hatred comes due to the high cost of entry, people hate that they can't experience it. That's not any issue with reviewers, who have top grade VR hardware. VR is literally like a childhood dream come true for many people.
VR setups that can do roomscale without setting up sensors have been on the market for 2.5 years.
For what it is doing in terms of pushing the boundaries of games and immersion, and if the story is up to par (sure it will be) plus literally unlimited content via the game editor ala Garry's Mod 2.0....... Yes!
It shouldn't be judged just because it is VR but rather based what it is in it's own right
It shouldn't be judged just because it is VR but rather based what it is in it's own right
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Most people will lose out then.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean, *for example* people blindly love and highly regard Ferrari's, yet the vast majority will never be able to try let alone buy one in their lifetime!
Going by this logic, why should this be any different? Oh, except VR is very affordable and accesable to all depending on the headsets you buy!
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That would be an unfortunate occurrence for the user in question, but does not represent the vast majority, and shouldn't take anything away from the quality of the game.
Oh, sure. But inside-out tracking hasn't really convinced me yet. Room-scale with sensors is very solid.
VR games are very diverging as some get much more motion sick than others, because of that there will definitely be some reviews where they bomb the game just because they have weak VR legs.
A headcrab in your face is truly immersive regardless of how you move. I get that teleporting will make the moment-to-moment gameplay less immersive, but Alyx will still offer unparalleled immersion.
I think climbing up to the top hasn't been possible in years, not since at least the Wii/360/ps3 gen. Best rated of 2020? possibly, but best rated of all time means it has to beat a lot of 2000's titles that even their more ambitious successors in the same franchises have not been able to top score-wise.
Guess I've just been paying attention to reviews long enough to know that's not how things work.
I love VR and am heavily invested. But you're absolutely wrong OP. Until we solve the issue of locomotion in VR, you won't see a VR game have that potential.
A VR game can never get the highest rated game of all time. Not until we are in 2050 where it is infact given.
Did i miss something.
Wait what? Why would it be likely to review bombed, it isn't like they ruffle some feathers or its the first ever VR game.
Did i miss something.
This right here. General audiences haven't gotten over their irrational hatred for VR yet and that's only going to show in reviews.
I can't use my VR headset anymore because my eyes just rolled into the back of my head and they won't come back
