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I am still amazed at what Devil May Cry 5 pulled off at 60 fps in terms of visuals
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I'm reallynot, location are nothing special graphically and they are small.
And even the characters take a huge hit in details, also i don't think it's rock solid locked 60 fps...
So yeah, you see all the sacrifices to achieve 60 frame, but for an action game, it was the right choice.
And even the characters take a huge hit in details, also i don't think it's rock solid locked 60 fps...
So yeah, you see all the sacrifices to achieve 60 frame, but for an action game, it was the right choice.
LDK was awesome, shame it didn't make a return, they could probably do it on PC, Pro & X.
It's limited in scope and the environments are kinda bland, but yeah the characters and action look superb.
The bits I've seen look really nice but I wasn't overly impressed with the demo but maybe cos that was on ps4 pro and not x1x?
Would love to buy this game but I just can't get into them. I really wish they were made more simplistic like the old GOW games. Not a fan of encounters feeling like a closed off mini arena either.
Would love to buy this game but I just can't get into them. I really wish they were made more simplistic like the old GOW games. Not a fan of encounters feeling like a closed off mini arena either.
There's really not much going on with the backgrounds though. Majority of the levels are featureless rocks and caves.
oh i agree yeah, 60 fps is a positive in 99.9% of the time imo, i think its really wonderful capcom has been able to create very competitive visuals without caveing to lower framerates. Ive been happy with them doing this since dmc4 when the standard seemed to drop for everyone else
Really?
Firstly, I didn't think it looked that great (played on PS4 Pro) and even so, the levels were tiny and on rails.
Firstly, I didn't think it looked that great (played on PS4 Pro) and even so, the levels were tiny and on rails.
A photogrammetry focus does produce some impressive results. Battlefront, Injustice, Modern Warfare. That in addition to static (pre-calculated) lighting have enabled really impressive fidelity and performance.
It's at odds with the goals of most open world games (scale over detail, day-night cycles), so Capcom's unique focus on linear AAA productions allow them to use those technologies to their fullest.
It's at odds with the goals of most open world games (scale over detail, day-night cycles), so Capcom's unique focus on linear AAA productions allow them to use those technologies to their fullest.
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But yeah DMC5 & RE engine are magical.
I agree, RE Engine and MT Framework are great and what the yaccomplished with them.
DMC5 is like my favourite game of this year.
But Deep Down and Panta Rhei would like a word woth that last statement of yours.
Its levels look like garbage, that's why. It's easy to have some high polygon, well animated characters on screen when the rest requires next to nothing. I feel most people completely manage to ignore this because the characters are great looking especially in cutscenes.
In the same way Doom 2016 is hailed as a paragon of optimization yet it's a lot easier to get cramped, mostly linear levels to run at high framerates and visuals than open world games with big draw distances and huge amounts of asset instancing to make up forests etc.
In the same way Doom 2016 is hailed as a paragon of optimization yet it's a lot easier to get cramped, mostly linear levels to run at high framerates and visuals than open world games with big draw distances and huge amounts of asset instancing to make up forests etc.
For me, the RE Engine is extremely well made, extremely scalable, and the artists that Capcom have - are extremely talented. That's how it's reaching 60. Talented artists and a well-optomised engine.
Great technical achievement but the realistic artstyle doesnt cut it for me. It does not fit in dmc
I do appreciate what OP is saying because DMC looks astonishing. But it's easy to understand how they achieved this.
First, the environment is pretty simple in terms of geometry and very narrow, so.... less demanding rendering.
Second (and this is where I really wanted to see a better PC version), there's no Ambient Occlusion ingame. It gives the cutcenes a vast improvement over the real time, a shame they couldn't include in the PC version in some form.
And third.... using photogrametry in every texture was the right thing to approach the realism they want, but the texture resolution is rather low in the scenery. The camera being very far during combat sequences helps to hide this a lot.
But after all.... DMC 5 rocks and rules at 60 fps and looks astonishing. Really excited to see the future of the franchise next generation.
First, the environment is pretty simple in terms of geometry and very narrow, so.... less demanding rendering.
Second (and this is where I really wanted to see a better PC version), there's no Ambient Occlusion ingame. It gives the cutcenes a vast improvement over the real time, a shame they couldn't include in the PC version in some form.
And third.... using photogrametry in every texture was the right thing to approach the realism they want, but the texture resolution is rather low in the scenery. The camera being very far during combat sequences helps to hide this a lot.
But after all.... DMC 5 rocks and rules at 60 fps and looks astonishing. Really excited to see the future of the franchise next generation.
Unlikely. Monster Hunter is made at Capcom Dev 2 (they also do Capcom's fighting games), while the RE Engine is currently being used by Capcom Dev 1 (RE, DMC, etc.) exclusively. Likewise, Monster Hunter has tons of armors, which would be difficult on the RE Engine since it excels with scanned-in characters, objects, & clothes.
when they say "animation blending" are they referring to dante's model's animations "blending" in with the particle effects?
Not everyone can enjoy the blissful locked 60fps and native 4k ultra settings of the PC version of either DMC5 or Gears 5 on a 2080 Ti, tbf. But I don't laugh at people who don't own a 2080 Ti, because that would make me a selfish snob.
It's not just Gears 5 btw, DMC5 doesn't run at 60fps on base Xbox either.
It's actually pretty simplistic looking with rather excellent character models and particles, which is what sells it. Small tiny areas, and the latter 2/3rds of the game is just entirely set in goo land with random looking structures, so it demands an aesthetic that allows them to get away with not having enough definition in those areas wrt geometry, detail and texturing.
If you want an example of games that are truly pushing the tech at 60FPS, you have to look at Modern Warfare campaign, Wolfenstein, Doom, Infinite Warfare campaign, Battlefront 2. I'd include Battlefield as well but that game barely even hits 60 even on pro consoles...let alone maintain it for stretches like the games I mentioned.
If you want an example of games that are truly pushing the tech at 60FPS, you have to look at Modern Warfare campaign, Wolfenstein, Doom, Infinite Warfare campaign, Battlefront 2. I'd include Battlefield as well but that game barely even hits 60 even on pro consoles...let alone maintain it for stretches like the games I mentioned.
RE Engine is just amazing. Now that we've seen what it can do for Resi and DMC, I can't wait to see what other franchises get that luscious treatment.
Give me a Dino Crisis, Okami, or Onimusha in RE Engine!
Give me a Dino Crisis, Okami, or Onimusha in RE Engine!
No it's referring to how animations can smoothly transition to other ones dynamically.
Well it's not an open world game, it' a corridor simulation and coupled with capcoms artists and thier proprietary engine you get the 60 fps goods on this even running on the lamentable base og hardware. I don't see why we can't get this level of opulence on the next gen consoles, in an open world title, running at 60 fps.
Wow, folks are really jaded nowadays. I've always been a graphics nut but damn. Game is a joy to watch as you hit buttons.
Game is gorgeous on PC, baked lighting, missing AO, some stale backgrounds to hold 60, aside. Just simply watching the combat and animations is bliss.
Hoping to get some time to dig back in and hopefully DLC will come. No time nowadays but I can revisit DMCV for years until 6 and even after!
Game is gorgeous on PC, baked lighting, missing AO, some stale backgrounds to hold 60, aside. Just simply watching the combat and animations is bliss.
Hoping to get some time to dig back in and hopefully DLC will come. No time nowadays but I can revisit DMCV for years until 6 and even after!
Well why mention it then since it's a pointless comparison. Gears 5 runs at 30 on base while dmc5 runs at 60 on base. So how is it way better looking?
Each attack in that clip is its own unique, individual animation. Animation blending refers to how the game dynamically transitions from one another smoothly and without losing a step.
I don't know what game people played to say that the level art or geometry or whatever is bad or unimpressive. Clearly the scope is that of a linear game but theres a ton of stuff going on graphically with the levels (I get its prebaked)
Good thing there's hardware that both games run on at 60fps for a direct comparison, eh?
It's definitely the game that's impressed me the most as of late. Those facial animations are insane. I think the last game that impressed me in those specific regards was probably Injustice 2.
Yeah it drives me crazy. Like games look effin good, I dont know how people can nitpick so much.
Makes sense. I am curious how Capcom would potentially handle dragon's dogma 2, though
One of the most graphically impressive games I've ever played. Very very well done, especially considering the 60 FPS. They did a great job with it.
Its probably going to be in the RE engine because its Itsuno directing (and he has helped develop it a bunch, also most familiar to him and his team) but its sure to be 30fps on consoles but its going to be another huge leap for the engine in terms of scale. Gonna be gud,
Too bad Monster Hunter World really struggles to keep a stable framerate, even on PC with a good rig it varried between 50 and 40's for me depending where I was on the level if I was in combat or not.
