I am really struggling with the gunplay of Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus

[Theorry]

It just doesnt feel good? More people have that problem?
The shooting just lacks weight, the sights are all over the place when you shoot and you loose the enemy that way. Enemies dont react great also on shots and when you get shot it lacks impact also and you are suddenly dead.
I wasnt expecting this. Its not that i expected Doom but you would think this would atleast feel good to shoot.

Playing on console.

 

[808s & Villainy]

Feels just fine to me. I'm not sure I agree with any of those criticisms 🤷‍♂️

 

[vestan]

This game gets 10x better when you play on easy mode. The gunplay becomes more forgiving and firefights are a lot more fun to go through.

 

[Iyagovos]

Yeah, I had a real hard time adjusting to it. It just didn't feel like I could accurately shoot anything :(

 

[elenarie]

Try lowering the difficulty. Maybe it would feel better than.

For me personally, I played the first and DOOM on Nightmare, but couldn't get through this one on anything higher than the normal difficulty. Something felt off, indeed.

 

[nded]

I thought it was serviceable on mouse and keyboard. I do agree that the game doesn't do a good job of letting you know that you're getting shot and from where.

 

[funky]

Play it on easy.

It doesnt magically make the gunplay good but at least you die less. The difficulty curve is still all over the place though. Parts will still kick your butt on easy

 

[Springy]

I played on console and what bugged me was that it's a game where I very much feel I should be firing from the hip, but aim assist only really kicks in when you go down the sights. But most of the time I didn't want to do that. So I'd just flail around missing shots instead.

 

[Porky]

Put it on easy and just blast through a fun story. Level Design isn't worth the hassle in that game.

 

[Barnabas Reynolds]

On a gamepad at least it doesn't feel as good as the previous games. Switched over to PC for that one and enjoyed myself quite a bit. Have yet to play TNO or TOB on PC to make a comparison there though.
It's a weird situation, as I couldn't put my finger on why it felt different/worse.

 

[No Depth]

Yea I wasn't a fan of the game overall. The shooting did indeed lacked presence and weight I felt, particularly with limp audio to help craft the illusion of impact when the visual connection didn't impress.

Beyond that, the level layouts, secrets, and discovery were a dramatic step down from Wolf 1. I just came away very unimpressed from the game overall as an FPS experience.

 

[AfropunkNyc]

It just doesnt feel good? More people have that problem?
The shooting just lacks weight, the sights are all over the place when you shoot and you loose the enemy that way. Enemies dont react great also on shots and when you get shot it lacks impact also and you are suddenly dead.
I wasnt expecting this. Its not that i expected Doom but you would think this would atleast feel good to shoot.

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You should say what youre playing it on. I played a demo of it on PC and it was smooth, though i was using the Steam controller.

 

[GymWolf86]

Feels just fine to me. I'm not sure I agree with any of those criticisms 🤷‍♂️

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same onestly.

 

[Cess007]

I hated how inaccurate the guns felt in New Colossus. For a game that ask for a lot of stealth, I felt most of the time I was prying to land a silent headshot into a solder to not alert everyone.

 

[Linus815]

Didn't like TNC's gameplay at all, the level design was meh and the movement always felt like it was designed for run and gun but anything above normal punishes you extremely hard for it, plus the game was pretty awful at letting you know when you got hit, at least at launch.

my recommendation is to lower the difficulty and just run and gun. It's way more fun that way

 

[jon bones]

OK, I'm glad someone else said it - I really couldn't get into the gunplay myself as well.

 

[808s & Villainy]

Maybe it's because I played on the Switch with gyro aiming. I'm assuming OP is playing on a console gamepad?

 

[Theorry]

You should say what youre playing it on. I played a demo of it on PC and it was smooth, though i was using the Steam controller.

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Console. But i dont see how that affects weight of guns and feedback on shots tho.

 

[808s & Villainy]

Console. But i dont see how that affects weight of guns and feedback on shots tho.

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Could be a result of the aim assist console shooters tend to have

 

[Buff DrinkLots]

It's not the gunplay, the game is just really difficult.

 

[Theorry]

It's not the gunplay, the game is just really difficult.

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Its not that have difficulty with the game atm. It just doesnt feel good to shoot. :)

 

[impact]

Certain guns don't feel great. I loved the shotgun and the SMG once you do the nail gun upgrade.

That main assault rifle feels like shit to me, the iron sight sucks too. The pistol feels like beginner repeater in Borderlands.

 

[Greatest Ever]

It's probably my favorite single player gunplay ever. Don't recommend it on console at all though. Gross.

 

[Defect]

The aiming is atrocious on console.

 

[Elfotografoalocado]

Really liked it on Switch, the gameplay feels great, and the gyro is of course awesome, but it also plays well without it. Even if the game does have some problems with level design, I always thought the movement itself was excellent.

Maybe it's something related to sensitivity?

 

[RivalGT]

I had the same issue with the game when I played it on a PS4 Pro. Something is very off with the movement and weight of the game. Messing with the sensitivity helped a little. I had just recently played wolfenstein the new order as well, and that game didn't have these issue.

 

[predrag]

Same. And add on top of that stupid level design. I stuck on first levels and due frustration didn't continue playing it.

 

[Dreamboum]

I can't understand people saying Wolf2's gunplay doesn't have weight. I'm feeling every gunshot in my heart as the recoil makes the guns fill up half the screen

 

[Zhukov]

Had the same experience with both the new Wolfenstein games.

All the guns feel feeble as hell. Like I'm just clicking on guys until they kinda give up and flop over.

It's hard to tell I'm being hit without staring at the health gauge. Then I fall over mid fight and I'm like, "Wait, I was being shot there"?

 

[Jangowuzhere]

The first game is a bit less ambitious when it came to gameplay and level design....but it all worked. TNC just fucks with everything for no good reason.

 

[antitrop]

All of MachineGames' Wolfensteins would benefit from making it more obvious that you're taking damage from hitscan weapons, but it never bothered me too much.

Like, in DOOM you know you just got hit by a fireball, because you saw this big flaming ball coming at you from across the room, not so much with assault rifle rounds.

 

[Ryuhza]

The gunplay in the new Wolfenstein games (played on PS4) has always sat poorly with me. It looks cool, but the feel and enemy feedback... not so great. Find myself playing more for the story.

 

[Mr.Deadshot]

It just doesnt feel good? More people have that problem?
The shooting just lacks weight, the sights are all over the place when you shoot and you loose the enemy that way. Enemies dont react great also on shots and when you get shot it lacks impact also and you are suddenly dead.
I wasnt expecting this. Its not that i expected Doom but you would think this would atleast feel good to shoot.

Playing on console.

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The game is not good, just like the first. I never understood the hype about those two games. They are highly mediocre FPS.

 

[Edgar]

Its actually a common criticism OP when it was released on forums. I am not a gameplay first person and I thought the first Wolfie was the best game the year it released. But this one , immediately something felt off when i started playing. Like the level design being a cluster fuck, the gunplay never really felt good , its just such a missed opportunity when they had such a solid base with first one

 

[Fart Master]

Dual wield constantly

 

[Dr. Ludwig]

Take it down to easy and experience the story and characters (which I thought were awful anyway).

But yeah, the game is not worth the hassle of powering through its bullshit. The ADS sights are atrocious and take too much screen space when aiming and should have been taken out of the game since they serve no practical purpose, your guns are accurate anyway hip-firing and engagement distances are always short to mid range. Enemies blend with environments which makes it hard to discern them min-engagements (You're gonna have a lot of "Who the fuck just shot me?!" moments)

Regarding your point on enemy reaction, the bizarre thing is that enemies in TNO/TNB are much easier to trigger a stun state when shot than in TNC for some reason. You'd think that aspect would get improved in a sequel not worse.

 

[Havok]

We've had many topics about this exact thing. The gameplay part of this game, especially the feedback when you get shot, is terrible. I played the first game literally just a few days before this came out, to catch up, and the difference in how it feels is incredibly jarring.

 

[Nooblet]

I played it on PC, with a KB/m and everything you said OP is what the issue with new Wolfenstein 1 and 2 has been for me as well and pretty much everyone who has had any issue with the game. The sight jumps in a very awkward way (yea I know some will say don't use sights and I don't but sometimes I do so what gives?). Their hit feedback for getting hit and hitting enemy is absolutely horrible. The game is full of "but I was full healthy how did I die in one shot?" moments. Wolf 2 more than Wolf 1.

With Wolf 2 it's also the level design (badly placed designed paths) and encounter design (tons of commanders breaking the pace) that suffers with issues so that's another problem.

The story and voice acting is the only reason I like these games as they are exceptional. Though Wolf 2 has issues even in that area

 

[Theorry]

I am glad it isnt just me then.

 

[Garjon]

I found the controls to be excellent on kB/m but I've heard horror stories about playing this with a controller.
It's a shame because it's actually an excellent game all told

 

[Garjon]

Also, put all of your upgrades into the assault rifle, the armour piercing upgrade in particular turns you into a true terror Billy

 

[Papercuts]

Yeah, just play it on easy.

The combination of the mechanics, level design and encounter design is not good.

 

[skeezx]

heard the gunplay complaints so many times i refuse to nab the game unless it's under $20 or something. like how do you fudge that aspect in wolfenstein

re-installed TNO some time ago and didn't particularly care for it there either. i remember liking the game but that was before the nu old school revival caught on, guess i was too enamored with playing a no nonsense SP shooter to really notice

 

[StreamedHams]

This game gets 10x better when you play on easy mode. The gunplay becomes more forgiving and firefights are a lot more fun to go through.

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This. Between this, DOOM 2016 and Rage 2, I think W2 has the weakest combat and shooting by far.

That said, I still enjoyed the game (on easy) and really loved the story aspect.

 

[Deleted member 24907]

Played on XB1X and it was just fine for me. Really liked the shotgun too, felt really satisfying to run up to fools and blast them

I didn't even upgrade anything in the game because I honestly forgot lol

 

[monmagman]

I'll agree it is hard to tell when you are getting shot,but I had no issues with the gunplay myself.

 

[IDreamOfHime]

The gameplay is atrocious. The story is the only thing that kept me playing.

 

[Waaghals]

There is something slightly off by the way the player interacts with the environment. Probably has something to do with you now actually having a physical body in the game world. Never felt 100% right.

The fact that the game is very unforgiving in the first half might have something to do with it. Makes issues like that more noticeable.

 

[Croash]

Blasted through it on easy and it was refreshing to feel powerful. What annoyed me was the lack of ammo and having to figure out the level design many times (no more than 2 minutes being stuck though) which didn't happen in Doom on Easy.

Lovely campaign, I couldn't put it down because of the story, gunplay was serviceable.

 

[R dott B]

Felt like a chore which is odd because they previous title felt ok. I never got around to finishing it because of this.