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Jeremy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I haven't followed the news on this at all, since I'm definitely getting it and prefer to go in blind on story stuff. Is there any news of a non-story mode, like the map mode in HW1 where you explored the Zelda 1 map?
 

Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
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I haven't followed the news on this at all, since I'm definitely getting it and prefer to go in blind on story stuff. Is there any news of a non-story mode, like the map mode in HW1 where you explored the Zelda 1 map?
We don't know, that'd be under embargo as it would likely be post story in this game
 

Zaiven

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Nov 12, 2019
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I haven't followed the news on this at all, since I'm definitely getting it and prefer to go in blind on story stuff. Is there any news of a non-story mode, like the map mode in HW1 where you explored the Zelda 1 map?
From what I can tell, everything is on the map this time. Story Mode, extra missions, Challenges, etc.

What I'm curious about is if there are any "hidden" characters tucked away on the map that aren't part of the main mission.
 

Kouriozan

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wonder how the DLC are going to work if they have to put everything on the same map.
Also with the datamined potential characters, it could get pretty crowded already.
 

Phendrift

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Oct 25, 2017
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From what I can tell, everything is on the map this time. Story Mode, extra missions, Challenges, etc.

What I'm curious about is if there are any "hidden" characters tucked away on the map that aren't part of the main mission.
When I played Hyrule Warriors DE I was sooooo disappointed to learn how obscure and difficult some of the character unlocks were (I didn't play legends or the DLC for that so I was excited to finally play those characters). I really hope there isn't anything like that here
 

Charismagik

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's really hard looking at this sub 30 fps stuff when you have next gen bombs dropping all around. Hope that rumored switch upgrade is a thing
 

Zaiven

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Nov 12, 2019
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When I played Hyrule Warriors DE I was sooooo disappointed to learn how obscure and difficult some of the character unlocks were (I didn't play legends or the DLC for that so I was excited to finally play those characters). I really hope there isn't anything like that here
I can't even remember how DE did it. I thought all the characters were unlocked from the start? Or was that only the original cast?

I wonder how the DLC are going to work if they have to put everything on the same map.
Also with the datamined potential characters, it could get pretty crowded already.
You have a cool avatar of Golbez, by the way. Is that from an official game, or is it fanmade? I don't think I recognize it.
 

Phendrift

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can't even remember how DE did it. I thought all the characters were unlocked from the start? Or was that only the original cast?


You have a cool avatar of Golbez, by the way. Is that from an official game, or is it fanmade? I don't think I recognize it.
I just remember reading that you had to do specific squares on the challenge or adventure maps or whatever to unlock a lot of them and just noped out. DLC ones should be unlockable in the main campaign somehow imo, even if they aren't part of the story. Like Marin, Toon Zelda and them were unlockable on adventure maps
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Is it confirmed that, just like in the demo, the full game also doesn't have a mission-ranking system? Because stressing about getting X number of kills within Y amount of time while taking less than Z points of damage just so I could get an S rank was legitimately my least favorite part of the original.
 

Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
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From what I can tell, everything is on the map this time. Story Mode, extra missions, Challenges, etc.

What I'm curious about is if there are any "hidden" characters tucked away on the map that aren't part of the main mission.
There's a datamine of the potential roster it has its own thread
I wonder how the DLC are going to work if they have to put everything on the same map.
Also with the datamined potential characters, it could get pretty crowded already.
I could see additional Map screens/sub maps, all it'd take is a swap button
 
Nov 4, 2017
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Normally I don't Iike hectic or button-mashy games, but I... Don't hate this. I'm honestly floored by how much I enjoyed the demo.

Do Warriors games ever go on sale, or will this suffer the "$60 forever" Nintendo curse?
 

MayorSquirtle

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May 17, 2018
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Normally I don't Iike hectic or button-mashy games, but I... Don't hate this. I'm honestly floored by how much I enjoyed the demo.

Do Warriors games ever go on sale, or will this suffer the "$60 forever" Nintendo curse?
It's published by Nintendo, it will suffer the $60 forever curse
Fire Emblem Warriors and Hyrule Warriors DE have both gone down to $40 on the eShop, but it certainly doesn't happen often.
 

Mimosa

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Oct 23, 2019
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I preordered it for 45 euros on Amazon France!

I'm stoked for this. Again, I'm a little worried at how awkward Link's stoic silence is in the middle of such a vibrant cast of voiced characters, but we'll see how that plays out.

I'm honestly really impressed by the improvement in writing and cutscene direction. It gives me a lot of hope for Botw2's narrative.
 

Zaiven

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There's a datamine of the potential roster it has its own thread
Oh yeah, I know that.

I'm just not sure if we know that the datamine is complete.

And even still, it would be weird to get all 7 of the "main" characters by the end of Chapter 2 and have only a couple more for the rest of the game, barring any hidden ones (I tend to think at least some of those extra characters are going to belong to post-game epilogue-style content).
 

Pakooly

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Has someone realized that the framerate in the Nintendo World Report's preview video is way better than in the other preview videos?
 

RedSwirl

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is this gonna be worth it at all if I don't give a shit about Musou games?

Do I care about Zelda games? Sure. But I tried DW7 once and I think my experience was perfectly described by a translated Japanese forum post I read once -- a lawnmower game.
 

Phendrift

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Oct 25, 2017
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I had assumed the footage of the characters fighting Rito and Gerudo was some training missions or something.

Nope, they are straight up fighting each other for realsies within the context of the story.
holy shit why? Wasn't Urbosa close friends with Zeldas mom and knew her since she was a kid?
 

Homura

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Is this gonna be worth it at all if I don't give a shit about Musou games?

Do I care about Zelda games? Sure. But I tried DW7 once and I think my experience was perfectly described by a translated Japanese forum post I read once -- a lawnmower game.
There is a Demo on the Eshop.
 

Arcus Felis

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Oct 26, 2017
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Has someone realized that the framerate in the Nintendo World Report's preview video is way better than in the other preview videos?
I watched (here), and you are right. Framerate in their video is far better than in others (looks almost like 60 FPS). That raises a few questions, because the difference is blatantly noticeable compared to pretty much every single other gameplay video released so far.
I'm curious about what NWR has to say as to how/why their gameplay videos look so different.

Edit: They are aware of the difference, and are looking into it, as an official YouYube comment mentions:
We've seen some comments about the frame rate seeming high in this video. We did not intentionally modify the video in any way and are currently investigating if this is an encoding issue on our end or on YouTube. Thank you for understanding.
 
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Pakooly

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I watched (here), and you are right. Framerate in their video is far better than in others (looks almost like 60 FPS). That raises a few questions, because the difference is blatantly noticeable compared to pretty much every single other gameplay video released so far.
I'm curious about what NWR has to say as to how/why their gameplay videos look so different.

Edit: They are aware of the difference, and are looking into it, as an official YouYube comment mentions:
They talk about an encoding issue, so probably the game runs at 30 fps and they or YT accidentally upscaled the video frameratewise, if that's possible.
 
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correojon

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Oct 26, 2017
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Is it confirmed that, just like in the demo, the full game also doesn't have a mission-ranking system? Because stressing about getting X number of kills within Y amount of time while taking less than Z points of damage just so I could get an S rank was legitimately my least favorite part of the original.
But that is the best part! Having those requirements and failing to get a S rank are what pushed me to learn the maps and the special conditions of each battle so that I had to come up with a strategy. Having a damage condition also requires you to use blocking and dodging and learning enemy attacks. If you remove that, the game is just a button masher, this is like 50% of the core experience.
My only complaint is that I wish you could see the necessary amount of kills needed, because sometimes you could stomp through a mission and fall short on kills because you did "too well".
 

Danby

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Oct 7, 2020
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Good to hear the frame rate issue isn't consistent over the whole game, I'm excited to play this
 

Arcus Felis

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We need actual reviews to be sure.

As for NWR's videos, well, we can safely assume those are not representative of the actual product. A warning may be in order on the first page.
I'm still very curious about how their capture footage suddenly turned out to be 60 FPS. Either it's a capture/encoding "issue", either they do have a Switch Pro (but, obviously, if this is the case, we will never know because of NDA - I don't actually believe they have one, but heh).
They should have taken down their videos and re-uploaded rectified versions of them in any case.
 
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Dec 20, 2017
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holy shit why? Wasn't Urbosa close friends with Zeldas mom and knew her since she was a kid?
Probably something to do with Yiga trickery or dark magic, maybe tied into the mysterious villain we've been seeing. The last clip in the vid from Gerudo Town has Urbosa rejoining with Link and Zelda; Zelda says something like "good to have you back on our side" and Urbosa gives an apology to the effect of "sorry I dragged you into this mess."
 

Igor

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Oct 31, 2017
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I returned to the demo after playing a good bit of original Hyrule Warriors and the game is so, so so much better even though the framerate chucks a lot. The enemies don't feel spongy and the gameplay feels much more fluid - I can't wait for this to come out.
 
Dec 20, 2017
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We need actual reviews to be sure.

As for NWR's videos, well, we can safely assume those are not representative of the actual product. A warning may be in order on the first page.
I'm still very curious about how their capture footage suddenly turned out to be 60 FPS. Either it's a capture/encoding "issue", either they do have a Switch Pro (but, obviously, if this is the case, we will never know because of NDA - I don't actually believe they have one, but heh).
They should have taken down their videos and re-uploaded rectified versions of them in any case.

Did a little testing and I'm about 99% sure its an encoding thing. If you slow the video down to .25x speed and go frame by frame, the video appears to have artificially generated extra frames by blending the previous frame with the next one. It's super noticeable if you look at the transition from the snow area to the desert. You can also see it if you focus in on the HUD- its elements flicker when the camera spins rapidly, or whenever there's a particle/lighting effect that flashes in front of one of them (I think it's easiest to notice with the boss titles).
 

Mimosa

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Oct 23, 2019
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4 days to go!

Do we know when the review embargo lifts? I hope it's not day of...
 

Aostia82

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Oct 27, 2017
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I returned to the demo after playing a good bit of original Hyrule Warriors and the game is so, so so much better even though the framerate chucks a lot. The enemies don't feel spongy and the gameplay feels much more fluid - I can't wait for this to come out.


yes, me too I prefer Calamity over the first one, that was already (to me) a very good Mosou (with many elements taken from Zelda, like bosses, items and so on).
 

Igor

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Oct 31, 2017
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yes, me too I prefer Calamity over the first one, that was already (to me) a very good Mosou (with many elements taken from Zelda, like bosses, items and so on).
Yeah I think the improvement is huge, I do hope the full game keeps up the momentum, because original HW just got very formulaic very quickly.
 

Aostia82

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah I think the improvement is huge, I do hope the full game keeps up the momentum, because original HW just got very formulaic very quickly.

Probably (we'll see!) the fact that this is very strictly connected to the original BOTW will help a little bit in creating specific situations (like the one in the demo where you have to "escort" Zelda against the Guardians)
 

Igor

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Oct 31, 2017
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Probably (we'll see!) the fact that this is very strictly connected to the original BOTW will help a little bit in creating specific situations (like the one in the demo where you have to "escort" Zelda against the Guardians)
Totally, this is what I am hoping for. The fact the maps are lifted from/modeled after the BotW rather than being a bunch of squares connected with corridors really helps wthe game feel organic.
 

Jintor

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Oct 25, 2017
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review embargo lifts on the 18th CEST i think
 

Sir Hound

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Oct 28, 2017
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Just hijacking this as I don't want to go into the spoiler thread. I almost cancelled my Amazon UK order for this in favour of picking up a copy locally here in NL.

Until I saw the boxart:
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Merc_

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Oct 28, 2017
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It's still a Musou game so I'd be surprised if this gets anywhere near the 90s. It'll hit mid to low 80s at best.