A great video break down on what we currently know about hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19. As someone who already takes it for autoimmune disease, I am getting tired of everyone being misinformed in it.
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As someone who already takes it for autoimmune disease, I am getting tired of everyone being misinformed in it.
We know Trump has a stake in the company that makes it which explains his constant need to push it.
Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community (Published 2020)
While Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged caution in using hydroxychloroquine, some doctors are prescribing it to patients who have the virus despite the fact it has never been tested for it.www.nytimes.com
My wife is starting Actemra next week.
I better not find out it's backordered til 2022.
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It already costs like $20K/year without insurance.
My wife is About to start Actemra as well. In combination with Rituximab. They are all forms of immunosuppressants, in this case b and T cells to stop the creation of immunoglobulin gone haywire. But side effects can be bad and these are expensive.
We know Trump has a stake in the company that makes it which explains his constant need to push it.
Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community (Published 2020)
While Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged caution in using hydroxychloroquine, some doctors are prescribing it to patients who have the virus despite the fact it has never been tested for it.www.nytimes.com
As the video explains, it being able to calm cytokine storm is extremely promising but it also has some serious side effects so it needs to be carefully studied. I'm more annoyed because my refill price went up this month because of the hype.
Which I start next week >.<Our family doctor has several RA patients and they can't even fill their prescription.
I'm hoping the same doesn't happen to other drugs like Actemra.
Pharma companies will make little to no money on Hydroxychloroquine thats why their puppets in the media and government will try to downplay the drug and push expensive vaccines (eventually).
It's proven to help. I trust no one who downplays HCQ.
The part that is weird is that outside of a handful of anecdotes, most small clinical tests for it so far show little to no efficacy at all.My initial take on this was Trump says it works, so Im guessing it doesnt.
Pharma companies will make little to no money on Hydroxychloroquine thats why their puppets in the media and government will try to downplay the drug and push expensive vaccines (eventually).
To be fair, it's a generic drug, and therefore many companies make it (or can make it). Therefore, Trump does not have a stake in THE company that makes, but maybe A company that makes it. The branded version, Plaquenil is made by Sanofi.We know Trump has a stake in the company that makes it which explains his constant need to push it.
Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community (Published 2020)
While Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged caution in using hydroxychloroquine, some doctors are prescribing it to patients who have the virus despite the fact it has never been tested for it.www.nytimes.com
I am seeing the FUD being spread around this drug and it's spooking me out. It just doesn't seem organic to me.I do not think that the Globalization Puppet Masters (tm) want to downplay a good treatment to coronavirus so that the economy can struggle for 18 months so that they can sell vaccines later... Seems like that's honestly pretty bad for business.
Pretty sure everyone would take a COVID19 vaccine even if the death rate was lowered to 0.5%.
its not. proving would require months. known side effects can include blindness.
I am seeing the FUD being spread around this drug and it's spooking me out. It just doesn't seem organic to me.
I am seeing the FUD being spread around this drug and it's spooking me out. It just doesn't seem organic to me.
And everyone should the take the vaccine when it arrives obviously.
My initial take on this was Trump says it works, so Im guessing it doesnt.
Hi I already take the drug to survive stop touting it as a miracle cure with zero evidence so I won't run out of it thanks.I am seeing the FUD being spread around this drug and it's spooking me out. It just doesn't seem organic to me.
And everyone should take the vaccine when it arrives obviously.
I wish you can talk to my dad and his dumb ass friend who believes it works cause they read somewhere that some people are getting better at it. Their source, I'm sure is bull shit.As I said before. Chloroquine is absolute routine treatment for ICU-bound COVID patients.
My ICU has close to 50 COVID patient on a ventilator right now and pretty much all of them have received a course of chloroquine. If there is any effect at all, it's incredibly minimal because nearly everyone requiring invasive ventilation ends up multiple weeks in the ICU.
Deciding to tout this (pretty shitty) drug as a potential cure or acting like it has a significant impact on COVID is one of the dumbest things in the world. Leave this stuff to the professionals, please.
Otherwise we get folks like this. SMH.
Steroids increase viral shedding/replicationI mean, if it's just about dampening the immune response and stopping cytokines storms and inflammation, then why not prednisone or other Glucocorticoids? Combine that with certain antiobiotics and wouldn't that have a similiar safer result
edit: to the poster above me.
that's kind of where I was going with my post. My wife is About to start Actemra as well. In combination with Rituximab. They are all forms of immunosuppressants, in this case b and T cells to stop the creation of immunoglobulin gone haywire. But side effects can be bad and these are expensive.
The sad truth is that most people who have to go on a ventilator will die, doesn't matter what treatment they are given.I wish you can talk to my dad and his dumb ass friend who believes it works cause they read somewhere that some people are getting better at it. Their source, I'm sure is bull shit.
Yeah, I am v near where Raoult is right now. This guy isn't an idiot even if Trump is a moron and an opportunist. Waiting cautiously to see the studies and what Macron says on Monday but I can say without any doubt that I am so exhausted by American "liberals" just shitting on anything because Trump is associated with it. Wait to see what the studies say and let's go from there. Everyone is apparently a brain surgeon these days given what I'm seeing on my Facebook feed.Didier Raoult, who has been pushing for it very strongly in France, released an abstract of his latest tests yesterday (he gave his findings to Macron in exclusivity).
Here in Switzerland the majority of patients are being treated with it. They're not sure if it works, but as they don't have any reason not to use it, they're willing to try anything that could help.
Yeah, I am v near where Raoult is right now. This guy isn't an idiot even if Trump is a moron and an opportunist. Waiting cautiously to see the studies and what Macron says on Monday but I can say without any doubt that I am so exhausted by American "liberals" just shitting on anything because Trump is associated with it. Wait to see what the studies say and let's go from there. Everyone is apparently a brain surgeon these days given what I'm seeing on my Facebook feed.
Mortality was significantly lower in patients who had received >3 days of HCQ-AZ than in patients treated with other regimens both at IHU and in all Marseille public hospitals (p< 10 2).
Yeah, I am v near where Raoult is right now. This guy isn't an idiot even if Trump is a moron and an opportunist. Waiting cautiously to see the studies and what Macron says on Monday but I can say without any doubt that I am so exhausted by American "liberals" just shitting on anything because Trump is associated with it. Wait to see what the studies say and let's go from there. Everyone is apparently a brain surgeon these days given what I'm seeing on my Facebook feed.
I mean, if it's just about dampening the immune response and stopping cytokines storms and inflammation, then why not prednisone or other Glucocorticoids? Combine that with certain antiobiotics and wouldn't that have a similiar safer result
edit: to the poster above me.
that's kind of where I was going with my post. My wife is About to start Actemra as well. In combination with Rituximab. They are all forms of immunosuppressants, in this case b and T cells to stop the creation of immunoglobulin gone haywire. But side effects can be bad and these are expensive.
Steroids increase viral shedding/replication
We typically reserve steroids exclusively for when they develop ARDS.
I work in the ICU in a major hospital system in NY so if anyone has any questions feel free to PM me.
I think the issue many people have is whether or not the studies are controlled, blind, etc. If so, that's great. But there has been some analysis of some of the French studies that essentially put these trials at an anecdotal status given how they're apparently designed.If you follow French News, Macron just had a long meeting with Raoult and is probably going to talk about the studies being done on Monday. I feel like a lot of people want this to fail because it's Trump. I hate Trump but here in France we are seeing somewhat positive results in these studies. We just need more studies to see if the prior ones were flawed. I disagree with rushing this out as treatment but I am cautiously hopeful for its use in limited situations
We had it first you greedy fucks. Doctors prescribing hydroxychloroquine for COVID patients when those with autoimmune disorders can't get a lifesaving drug are no better than those hoarding masks and other PPE. They are taking medical supplies from those for whom the benefit is necessary and certain and giving it to people for whom the benefit is speculative and marginal.
Look, if it really turns out this is a miracle drug and it will save doctors' lives, and hey can use it to stay in the fight and save even more lives, I'll go to the grave with a fucking smile on my face. But if you're going to ask me to make that sacrifice you had damn well better be sure. If it's such a fucking miracle drug, Trump can use his DPA powers to start increasing production NOW, before some marginally positive study condemns many more to the grave.
I agree, and I think that's what most here in France are pointing to - a desire for further studies. I just don't think Raoult is acting in bad faith like Trump and it saddens me a bit to see people jumping at his throatI think the issue many people have is whether or not the studies are controlled, blind, etc. If so, that's great. But there has been some analysis of some of the French studies that essentially put these trials at an anecdotal status given how they're apparently designed.
Given that, it's hard to say positive outcomes are due solely to this drug. But I also get at this point trying anything and everything to try to save lives.