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Humble Store to sell Epic Games Store keys, Epic not getting revenue (but presumably still at a 70/30 rate)
- Thread starter KoolAid
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That seems to be specifically focused on the people who talk about the Steam key options for third party stores
Better than nothing (which is what Epic provided before), but still absolutely nowhere near good enough.
This is a nice move, still isn't up to par.
Also side steps the lack of being able to use/purchase and redeem on the steam platform.
Quick, assume something btw :)
That's a step, but the idea is multiple sellers for competition. This was my one issue before they started collating data before asking permission, so that's a shame the latter part happened.
Nobody ever said "I hope Epic graciously allows one selected store to have the privilege of distributing games". The idea is letting devs sell wherever and having actual competition to drive prices down like we're used to.
Nobody ever said "I hope Epic graciously allows one selected store to have the privilege of distributing games". The idea is letting devs sell wherever and having actual competition to drive prices down like we're used to.
So like if they are keeping a 70/30 split (any confirmation, I thought Humble took a lower cut), then as a honest question what's the point in using the Epic store if you are not even giving more money to the developers. Like if its the same split with epic that's fine.
It's a start. But lemme use GMG, Voidu, Fantatical, etc too.
Then stop buying exclusives. Will buy keys with Epic after that
Then stop buying exclusives. Will buy keys with Epic after that
I'm glad I can get the 10% off discount again (for having Humble Monthly). But will it only be this one store? Green Man Gaming is another notable one with some pretty high discounts even for pre-orders.
Also from the article, since so many people are wondering if Humble will be the only store selling EGS keys:
"we have keys, but you're only allowed to sell on one store"
I guess it's because Humble Store doesn't do discounts out of it's cut like GMG, Voidu & others? (apart from monthly 10% discount, but it has been disabled for some games).
Better than nothing I suppose?
If devs pay 30%, why would they go there? We'll see how many take the deal.
Because Humble doesn't do those discounts maybe?
I guess it's because Humble Store doesn't do discounts out of it's cut like GMG, Voidu & others? (apart from monthly 10% discount, but it has been disabled for some games).
Better than nothing I suppose?
If devs pay 30%, why would they go there? We'll see how many take the deal.
Because Humble doesn't do those discounts maybe?
I agree, and I bet that is something that has been requested from developers and publishers and may be another reason why we're seeing so many exclusivity deals.
It's a start, but with the recent shady activity concerning data gathering, I would still rather not launch the EGS client if I can at all help it.
Epic not getting any profit out of it, if true, would possibly alleviate a part of my reticence for buying EGS-exclusive games. But I would have to want to launch the EGS client in the first place, which is less likely now than it was before.
Epic not getting any profit out of it, if true, would possibly alleviate a part of my reticence for buying EGS-exclusive games. But I would have to want to launch the EGS client in the first place, which is less likely now than it was before.
So only one keystore that partnered with Epic is allowed to sell EGS keys?
It's just sad to see Epic continue to introduce console practices on pc. I hope pc gamers will use their brain to see the impact this may have on the future of pcbgaming.
It's just sad to see Epic continue to introduce console practices on pc. I hope pc gamers will use their brain to see the impact this may have on the future of pcbgaming.
Well at least they don't take portion of key sales like consoles.
Yup, walled garden by any means nessecary.
But apparently, pointing out that this isn't actual reseller support is moving the goal posts.
It's a good start, but it would be nice if they expanded this to more stores. I hope they announce some more soon.
I was just making a mild joke, but regards to full reseller support, I'm a little skeptical on whether that should actually be a goal, and it's probably one reason pubs and devs are accepting EGS exclusive deals. I mean yes it's nice from a price perspective as a consumer to get a game $10-$20 cheaper at launch, but allowing outlets like GMG or cdkeys to purchase bulk discount keys from Eastern Europe or wherever and resell them at low prices is hardly a boon for developers either. Ultimately from Epic's own words they are going to be partnering with other stores, so there will be some price competition, just not in realm of grey market keys most likely.
If you're saying the concern here is moving goal posts, i think you're missing the entire conversation on this topic.This is a good step in the right direction, there's still more work to be done however.
The goalposts are simple and unchanging: Steam allows developers to sell keys completely arbitrarily.
That fosters the kind of free market competition that people are ostensibly in favor of.
Special agreements with single storefronts don't.
Per the article they will be partnering with more stores in the future.
Humble Store gives 75% to the developer unless it's different for these Epic exclusives. It's this way:
However, some developer's websites have a Humble Widget. For example Shovel Knight has one. Making one would be a good idea if you're a developer that couldn't make it to the Epic store and has to deal with Steam's 30% cut. The split for the widget is even more favorable:
- 75% to developer
- 15% to Humble (this is where the 10% Humble Monthly discount is taken from)
- 5% to charity
- 5% as free Humble Store wallet credit or charity, user picks on checkout
However, some developer's websites have a Humble Widget. For example Shovel Knight has one. Making one would be a good idea if you're a developer that couldn't make it to the Epic store and has to deal with Steam's 30% cut. The split for the widget is even more favorable:
- 95% to developer
- 5% to Humble
Stamping out the existence of sites like cdkeys or G2A is not only good for the industry but, in extension, for the consumers. Their business practices have allowed them to scam even small developers out of endless amounts of money (http://www.tinybuild.com/single-post/2017/04/28/G2A-sold-450k-worth-of-our-game-keys). Being able to buy every game for half the price seems great for the consumer? Only if you completely ignore that these business practices actively harm the industry, driving away developers, hurting artists which, quite obviously, is not a good thing for consumers, either.
I think it's pretty great we now have a competitive store where that shit just doesn't fly anymore, where consumers are willingly supporting scam artists to get their games on the cheap.
I'm fairly sure that isn't how GMG works since AFAIK Steam purchases with aggressive regional pricing are locked to that region. I've never heard anyone refer to them as grey market in the same way as G2A.
People won't be satisfied until they can buy games on Steam. This isn't about Epic improving. It's about (earned) platform preference.
