Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin applaud as Huawei Chairman Guo Ping and MTS boss Alexei Kornya agree to develop 5G in Russia.
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Huawei signs deal to develop 5G in Russia, on sidelines of meeting between Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin
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Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin applaud as Huawei Chairman Guo Ping and MTS boss Alexei Kornya agree to develop 5G in Russia.
Huawei lives, and Hollywood is getting retaliation for the trade war https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/us-indie-films-threatened-by-trumps-china-trade-war-1215665
Whatever happens next, at least it doesn't look like it'll be an ending that continues to enable the worst of America's behavior where we just bully everyone else out of business or into submission
Whatever happens next, at least it doesn't look like it'll be an ending that continues to enable the worst of America's behavior where we just bully everyone else out of business or into submission
This user is delusional and been exposed to too much feed water. Someone send him to the infirmary.
Yes, a win for the good guys here: the Chinese and Russian governments. Time to teach the US a lesson about civility.
Guess it's true the worst evil is the one that just happens to be the closest.
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Of course, they have to defend their masters at every opportunity.
I don't know what people expected. It's not like Huawei/China are going take up subsistence farming because the US is angry at them.
Mind draw a diagram for me? The Russia and China relationship has been very consistent.
Not surprised to see Huawei sign more 5G deals.
People forget that Huawei was a main supplier/builder of the 4G network in multiple European countries. In my country they have been in charge of building out and maintaining 4G networks since 2009, and after 2012 managed and built 4G for both of the largest telecom companies. We were even in China's dog house between 2010-2017, where they cut all diplomatic ties. Yet, there's been no warnings from the intelligence services even though we have top-of-the line espionage and counter espionage hardware courtesy of the USA.
So I think for some countries, the experience with them as hardware suppliers will be more important for deciding who builds out a country's 5G network than dissatisfaction from the USA (which was also documented and reported on in 2009 and 2012 here).
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People forget that Huawei was a main supplier/builder of the 4G network in multiple European countries. In my country they have been in charge of building out and maintaining 4G networks since 2009, and after 2012 managed and built 4G for both of the largest telecom companies. We were even in China's dog house between 2010-2017, where they cut all diplomatic ties. Yet, there's been no warnings from the intelligence services even though we have top-of-the line espionage and counter espionage hardware courtesy of the USA.
So I think for some countries, the experience with them as hardware suppliers will be more important for deciding who builds out a country's 5G network than dissatisfaction from the USA (which was also documented and reported on in 2009 and 2012 here).
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The worst evil is the US. China and Russia pursuing world friendship. They are being thwarted by Western colonial power USA.
It's all according to keikaku. Everything trump does that erodes America's global position has the effect of improving Russia's global position. It's the whole point of his presidency.
I do agree with that. Literally everything that's been occurring with U.S has strengthen Russia. Wonder why....
nobody can own a spectrum... there are other companies making 5G cells that aren't huawei
Of course they wont "OWN" 5G, but I dont trust the US (or US's companies) to develop and control the hardware (that if I understand correctly its what the companies want).
This is something I worry about. One of the ways that corruption can persist and entrench itself is to export powerful tools to other corrupt entities for profit (not even saying Huawei is corrupt but it's clear that Russia will ask no questions in either case). Just giving them that little initial bit of power can allow them to keep control. Russia also wants to segment the internet and go full PRC (https://www.wired.com/story/russia-and-iran-plan-to-fundamentally-isolate-the-internet/) because they realized mass digital oppression can work, and China will absolutely supply those tools to them. Or Saudi Arabia: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...-technology-china-report-190606054204929.html. Over time we're basically going to get a new axis of evil based on allies in fascism. Strangely right-wing populism in this model is the biggest unknown because these people are nationalist and racist enough to shake up the toxic status quo and yet stupid enough to buy all the propaganda and political manipulation. Bad times ahead.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or serious.
Take a drink everytime someone claims another user is a shill. Goodluck thread.
On the topic, it would be interesting to see the intelligence effects this will have between the two countries. Who this really benefits more.
On the topic, it would be interesting to see the intelligence effects this will have between the two countries. Who this really benefits more.
How would it better exactly? You are talking about a Totalitarian Government here, remember?
The US has already damaged south american countries using the intelligence they have gathered in the past. They dont get the benefit of the doubt, I'm pretty sure both China and the US spies on everyone, but I think its it would be easier for the US to use their influence here than China.
Now, I'd love to hear why I should trust the US over China with their history.
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