Huawei P30 Pro can unlock your car, charges the fastest, and seemingly takes the best pics of any phone. It’s bonkers innovative.

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I don't support the American government, and I'm not sure I am buying products from their tech branches. In fact, I think they contract that out instead of having a stake in things like Microsoft.


Trump hasn't done anything yet, though, speaking doesn't mean Chinese people are arrested in the US. China has already arrested individuals and is instigating trade fuckery with Canada over this. Of course she is suing for constitutional rights, she's trying hard not to be arrested by the US government.

So those arrested in China have seen lawyers? Able to fight their case in court similar to Meng has in Canada? HMMMM

You're stanning pretty hard for them.

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1. Like it or not, Trump is our president, assuming that you are a U.S. citizen/resident. His words have certain amount of weight and cannot be disregarded easily.
2. It is true that the Chinese government arrested three Canadian citizens. It is also true that the Chinese government has some trade disputes with the Canadian government. But never did the Chinese government once suggest that they did those things out of retribution; their actions are perfectly fine in the perspective of international law. They have, once again, whether you like or not, the same set of rights the Canadian government has; to imply that it is OK for Canada to do A because Canada is good but not China 'cause the government is evil is to play double standard.
3. The Chinese government has, for the third time, all the rights to prosecute suspects in accordance with their national law and signed international treaties. And for the third time, so far their actions are still well within the line. A bad law is still a law.

Bottom line: whether you and I like the Chinese government or not is really not the problem here. We do laws and international treaties for a reason.

 

[Deleted member 8901]

What other company has their government help them get away with stealing trade secrets from competitors?

 

[Oliver James]

Looks cool. But Huawei. Pass.

PS: Poland caught Huawei spying so.

 

[MajesticSoup]

Man stop I am not stanning for anybody. I am saying that their is much more dirt going around then where you are drawing the line.
Or are you also saying that you specifically fly with Airbus or Embraer and not with Boeing?
The world is a much darker place then you think. And no it is not only about America.
Here in Belgium for example we sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and that's no problem it seems. It is time to see that when you buy or consume that you cannot escape these things. In my eyes it is better that there is a big company like Huawei because it means that China is getting more modern and then the people will also have more chance to revolt against these regimes because they are more aware of other countries and also are getting a little more freedom. It is better then some secret hiding places where they make clothes for these luxury clothes or tech brands.

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Quick google shows that theres quite a few in belgium that see it as a problem.
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/07/01/566625/Belgium-Saudi-Arabia-weapons-Yemen-European-Union

Of course youre in disagreement with this. To use your reasoning, belgium or any country should sell arms to Saudi Arabia, because something something they cant stop sweatshops and 'clean' products dont exist and whatever the hell youre ranting about.

 

[Dalek]

I can't wait to not buy this.

 

[subpar spatula]

Man stop I am not stanning for anybody. I am saying that their is much more dirt going around then where you are drawing the line.
Or are you also saying that you specifically fly with Airbus or Embraer and not with Boeing?
The world is a much darker place then you think. And no it is not only about America.
Here in Belgium for example we sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and that's no problem it seems. It is time to see that when you buy or consume that you cannot escape these things. In my eyes it is better that there is a big company like Huawei because it means that China is getting more modern and then the people will also have more chance to revolt against these regimes because they are more aware of other countries and also are getting a little more freedom. It is better then some secret hiding places where they make clothes for these luxury clothes or tech brands.

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You are stanning for them.

This isn't a grey area. This isn't something that's hard to accept or understand. China is strong arming another country by arresting Canadian citizens and doing trade fuckery (without zero evidence) to get a criminal set free. If you believe this isn't something to draw a line at then you absolute are stanning or even worse are apathetic to the tribulations of the world.

 

[subpar spatula]

1. Like it or not, Trump is our president, assuming that you are a U.S. citizen/resident. His words have certain amount of weight and cannot be disregarded easily.
2. It is true that the Chinese government arrested three Canadian citizens. It is also true that the Chinese government has some trade disputes with the Canadian government. But never did the Chinese government once suggest that they did those things out of retribution; their actions are perfectly fine in the perspective of international law. They have, once again, whether you like or not, the same set of rights the Canadian government has; to imply that it is OK for Canada to do A because Canada is good but not China 'cause the government is evil is to play double standard.
3. The Chinese government has, for the third time, all the rights to prosecute suspects in accordance with their national law and signed international treaties. And for the third time, so far their actions are still well within the line. A bad law is still a law.

Bottom line: whether you and I like the Chinese government or not is really not the problem here. We do laws and international treaties for a reason.

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What are the charges against those 3 Canadians? What is the evidence? Have their arguments been heard in court? Do they have access to lawyers?

China isn't going to come out and say, "Hey, Canada, we arrested 3 of your people and am blocking purchasing of Canola because you arrested Meng." China is doing all this without ANY evidence of wrongdoing on behalf of the Canadians or the safety of the canola. To say they are "PERFECTLY FINE" is a gross statement. Don't peddle their insane propaganda.

 

[Ichi]

yeah but it's huawei

 

[Bliman]

Quick google shows that theres quite a few in belgium that see it as a problem.
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/07/01/566625/Belgium-Saudi-Arabia-weapons-Yemen-European-Union

Of course youre in disagreement with this. To use your reasoning, belgium or any country should sell arms to Saudi Arabia, because something something they cant stop sweatshops and 'clean' products dont exist and whatever the hell youre ranting about.

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Yeah there was not much protest here. I like that Huawei is so big. So that they are much more in the open. And therefore it is much more likely they are cleaner. Because they know that otherwise the price they pay would be bigger. In contrast you have much sweatshops for many companies which governments from many countries get's much benefit from.

 

[subpar spatula]

Yeah there was not much protest here. I like that Huawei is so big. So that they are much more in the open. And therefore it is much more likely they are cleaner. Because they know that otherwise the price they pay would be bigger. In contrast you have much sweatshops for many companies which governments from many countries get's much benefit from.

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Huawei is cleaner because they're so big?

JESUS

 

[Bliman]

You are stanning for them.

This isn't a grey area. This isn't something that's hard to accept or understand. China is strong arming another country by arresting Canadian citizens and doing trade fuckery (without zero evidence) to get a criminal set free. If you believe this isn't something to draw a line at then you absolute are stanning or even worse are apathetic to the tribulations of the world.

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Ok then believe that you are not doing exactly the same.

 

[subpar spatula]

Ok then believe that you are not doing exactly the same.

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So instead of actually engaging in the argument about Huawei, their connections to the Chinese government, and the fact that other countries have condemned them, you decide to go, "HEY WHAT ABOUT SWEAT SHOPS AND TRUMP?!"

You may not be a Huawei troll but you certainly are doing it for free.

 

[Bliman]

Huawei is cleaner because they're so big?

JESUS

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Yes. They can't really afford many things. It is an important company for them. And it would hurt them if it all fell apart.

 

[Deleted member 24450]

Yep, all arrested Canadians broke the law in one way or another, especially the one sentenced to death who was caught smuggling drugs years earlier. Although it appears intentionally honing on Canadians during this fiasco, no one was arrested without reason. Being a Chinese Canadian myself, I find it amusing from the sidelines because in the end it is just the political and economical social construct leading to all this. Picking any side is just believing the "fake news". ;p

Objectively speaking, these phones are good, though I will stick to the Apple eco-system.

 

[Possum Armada]

That sucks for Chinese customers but it doesn't impact me as a US citizen. iOS is still developed in the US and my data isn't being funneled to the Chinese government. I can't say that for a Huawei phone.

But yeah, you got me on the technicality by my earlier post.

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Fuck you I am ok is a great way to live your life. ;)

 

[subpar spatula]

Yep, all arrested Canadians broke the law in one way or another, especially the one sentenced to death who was caught smuggling drugs years earlier. Although it appears intentionally honing on Canadians during this fiasco, no one was arrested without reason. Being a Chinese Canadian myself, I find it amusing from the sidelines because in the end it is just the political and economical social construct leading to all this. Picking any side is just believing the "fake news". ;p

Objectively speaking, these phones are good, though I will stick to the Apple eco-system.

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What were the charges against the 3 Canadians? Has China produced evidence of their crimes? Do they have lawyers? When are their court dates?

 

[Bliman]

So instead of actually engaging in the argument about Huawei, their connections to the Chinese government, and the fact that other countries have condemned them, you decide to go, "HEY WHAT ABOUT SWEAT SHOPS AND TRUMP?!"

You may not be a Huawei troll but you certainly are doing it for free.

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Now you are accusing me of not going in the argument. When you don't want to engage in mine and calls it all sorts of. Names. How conveniant. I have engaged on any argument of yours.

 

[Bliman]

Yep, all arrested Canadians broke the law in one way or another, especially the one sentenced to death who was caught smuggling drugs years earlier. Although it appears intentionally honing on Canadians during this fiasco, no one was arrested without reason. Being a Chinese Canadian myself, I find it amusing from the sidelines because in the end it is just the political and economical social construct leading to all this. Picking any side is just believing the "fake news". ;p

Objectively speaking, these phones are good, though I will stick to the Apple eco-system.

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that I agree with. And it is an important point you make.

 

[subpar spatula]

Now you are accusing me of not going in the argument. When you don't want to engage in mine and calls it all sorts of. Names. How conveniant. I have engaged on any argument of yours.

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You haven't engaged in the Huawei argument. You literally came in with your fingers in your ears going, "SWEAT SHOPS, PLANES, TRUMP, SAUDI ARABIA". You don't even want to admit that Huawei is a Chinese stooge corp and China is arresting Canadians and doing trade shit with Canada over the arrest of Meng. You can't even seem to draw the line about that being a "Maybe I shouldn't support them".

Dude, go ask Huawei for a cheque or something 'cause you're putting in OT.

 

[Bliman]

You haven't engaged in the Huawei argument. You literally came in with your fingers in your ears going, "SWEAT SHOPS, PLANES, TRUMP, SAUDI ARABIA". You don't even want to admit that Huawei is a Chinese stooge corp and China is arresting Canadians and doing trade shit with Canada over the arrest of Meng. You can't even seem to draw the line about that being a "Maybe I shouldn't support them".

Dude, go ask Huawei for a cheque or something 'cause you're putting in OT.

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I am done. Keep stannin or however it calls for the side that you think is clean. I rather have something in the open and transparancy then something secret and more dirty.

 

[Tobor]

Fuck you I am ok is a great way to live your life. ;)

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What can I do to prevent the Chinese people from buying Huawei products? I'm happy to help.

 

[Nilaul]

I don't really care about all the spy stuff,
This phone is insane, I am so getting this.

You guys have pretty much voluntarily been spied by google for the past few decades, coming from photos, your own google drive, your personal details etc. How do you think their camera got so good? If not by analyzing all the thousands of photos the users uploaded. Facebook is worse, and instagram uses casino psychology to get you hooked, we live in a shity world. Might as well make the best of it.

Don't want to be spied on? Never connect to the internet.

 

[subpar spatula]

I am done. Keep stannin or however it calls for the side that you think is clean. I rather have something in the open and transparancy then something secret and more dirty.

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Be done. You still are a pro-bono Huawei troll just trying desperately so hard to derail and criticism about Huawei to America, Saudi Arabia, sweat shops, and other things you want to call out in a thread about Huawei. It's quite obvious you never cared to engage in good faith the arguments against Huawei because even you couldn't give reasons for why those 3 Canadians were arrested, or what evidence, or their court dates or even where they currently are. You probably couldn't even say what is actually wrong with Canadian Canola as investigations have shown zero safety and health hazards and China is the only buyer who is saying it is bad without supplying why. Enjoy supporting an authoritative regime!

 

[Zeb]

Chinese government doesn't even need phones to spy on you. I work with a few chinese nationals, and they tell me that they have to open an app every day that has a daily communist lesson. Answer the questions at the end and send a screengrab of their result to their local communist party affiliate. Also, they are expected to send monthly updates to the party about what they are doing, what their long term plans are and what people around them are talking about. If you have multiple chinese nationals, they all get freaked out that someone else will write something in their report that they decide to omit and get passed up on promotions if they return for lack of loyalty. The youngest guy even has his dad back in China lobbying to avoid moving his registration to the USA communist party cell because the cell associated to the company he used to work for in China is more prestigious.

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Hell on Earth

 

[Deleted member 24450]

What were the charges against the 3 Canadians? Has China produced evidence of their crimes? Do they have lawyers? When are their court dates?

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The drug smuggling one should have plenty of evidence, the others I know is from teaching without a valid work visa (which happens all the time in China, occasionally people get arrested, fined, and sent back to their country), and some former diplomat was arrested for defaming the country I recall (this won't happen under American laws, but China is like a child whom got picked on during when they were growing up, the ego is sensitive and so are their laws limiting speech against the government).

Actually in the Chinese online media, it was stated that more than 3 Canadians were arrested. In fact, most Chinese citizens know it is retaliation and it is also reported by some non-mainstream online media as so. However, many Chinese have a strong identity with their country so they of course side with Huawei. But also, some accuse Meng for being a hypocrite trying to gain the support of the working citizens of China, when she herself is a privileged wealthy businesswoman whom most certainly funneled funds out of the country to buy real estate in Canada, etc. This is another level of the Chinese culture right now, similar to people here complaining about American billionaires and corporations, but in China it is Chinese billionaires and government connections.

 

[subpar spatula]

The drug smuggling one should have plenty of evidence, the others I know is from teaching without a valid work visa (which happens all the time in China, occasionally people get arrested, fined, and sent back to their country), and some former diplomat was arrested for defaming the country I recall (this won't happen under American laws, but China is like a child whom got picked on during when they were growing up, the ego is sensitive and so are their laws limiting speech against the government).

Actually in the Chinese online media, it was stated that more than 3 Canadians were arrested. In fact, most Chinese citizens know it is retaliation and it is also reported by some non-mainstream online media as so. However, many Chinese have a strong identity with their country so they of course side with Huawei. But also, some accuse Meng for being a hypocrite trying to gain the support of the working citizens of China, when she herself is a privileged wealthy businesswoman whom most certainly funneled funds out of the country to buy real estate in Canada, etc. This is another level of the Chinese culture right now, similar to people here complaining about American billionaires and corporations, but in China it is Chinese billionaires and government connections.

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You said and I quote: "no one was arrested without reason"

You said their reasons. What is the proof? Who are their lawyers? What are their court dates? Where are they currently now? What is the evidence? Does this align with how other people are treated for the same offences?

You're taking a centrist stance. There is only one position when regarding Huawei and the Chinese government: they're doing evil.

 

[Deleted member 24450]

You said and I quote: "no one was arrested without reason"

You said their reasons. What is the proof? Who are their lawyers? What are their court dates? Where are they currently now? What is the evidence? Does this align with how other people are treated for the same offences?

You're taking a centrist stance. There is only one position when regarding Huawei and the Chinese government: they're doing evil.

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Hey I never research this stuff, what I said is what I read online a few months ago. This Huawei stuff is not on my mind. But I know even as a Chinese Canadian, it depends on whether one has a strong core under the Chinese identity or not. Because if one has a strong core in the Chinese identity, then there will be an inclination to help the Chinese side. I also admit to having this, I would like to improve the image of China, but it is difficult because they act reactive in situations such as this.

It's very interesting right now because Chinese companies and China are changing to adopt some global standards as they want to internationalize, but in the meantime global companies are also changing for China because they want to profit from the Chinese market.

I have been living in China for the past few years, even in China there are some foreigners who love China, some who always complain (yet don't go back to their own country haha), and some who are more holistic in their point of views.

 

[rokkerkory]

Will it also send your info to chairman Li Keqiang?

 

[Objektivity]

I'm sure that if this phone sucked no one would be in here concern trolling. Thanks for ruining the fucking thread and stay salty over this phone having the best camera.

 

[DrFunk]

...has anyone else noticed the OP hasn't said a word since?

 

[Objektivity]

...has anyone else noticed the OP hasn't said a word since?

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Since page 5 you mean? Say what you mean.

 

[signal]

 

[Deleted member 29676]

I'm sure that if this phone sucked no one would be in here concern trolling. Thanks for ruining the fucking thread and stay salty over this phone having the best camera.

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I think we'll need to see some real user shots before declaring it the best.

What make iPhone and pixel great is most people can just hit the button and get a great shot despite other cameras having potential better image quality.

 

[Snake Eater]

So all I have to do is give up my entire privacy for this technology?

 

[fanboi]

I think we'll need to see some real user shots before declaring it the best.

What make iPhone and pixel great is most people can just hit the button and get a great shot despite other cameras having potential better image quality.

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This?
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...QA4IlxmikgIedKqO_yvwEk28fN7aWuFZTkpbk4x5EEWRw

 

[sapien85]

Oh gosh. I was definitely wrong when I posted yesterday that we are a liberal site.

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Or you know the Chinese government is authoritarian and you're basically forced to support it if you're Chinese otherwise you're punished. You can say a lot of bad things about the US but I talk shit about trump all day without worrying about prison time or internet access control or my social credit.

And comparing the level of US government involvement in most US companies to Chinese government control over companies like Huawei is laughable. These aren't really private companies when they exist at the whim of the Chinese government and are agents for it. If the US government actually controlled Boeing you can make that comparison. If anything in the US the private companies own pieces of the government not the other way around.

 

[sapien85]

1. Like it or not, Trump is our president, assuming that you are a U.S. citizen/resident. His words have certain amount of weight and cannot be disregarded easily.
2. It is true that the Chinese government arrested three Canadian citizens. It is also true that the Chinese government has some trade disputes with the Canadian government. But never did the Chinese government once suggest that they did those things out of retribution; their actions are perfectly fine in the perspective of international law. They have, once again, whether you like or not, the same set of rights the Canadian government has; to imply that it is OK for Canada to do A because Canada is good but not China 'cause the government is evil is to play double standard.
3. The Chinese government has, for the third time, all the rights to prosecute suspects in accordance with their national law and signed international treaties. And for the third time, so far their actions are still well within the line. A bad law is still a law.

Bottom line: whether you and I like the Chinese government or not is really not the problem here. We do laws and international treaties for a reason.

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To claim that the Chinese government is on the same level as the Canadian government is a joke. The idea that the actions of a government are divorced from the nature of the government is absurd. If north Korea arrests random foreigners and claims they were spies I don't believe it as readily as I do if Canada did it and if you think they are the same thing you live in a bubble.

 

[sapien85]

What are these hot takes of Chinese government taking your info. Meanwhile all other manufacturers and companies that are non-chinese are already doing it. Lol..

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Oh yeah Chinese government is on the same level of shady authoritarianism as all governments right? This company specifically doesn't have a recent history of spying for them either? You're free to boycott any company you want but saying a company spying on you is fine because others are doing it doesn't actually address the issue. I wouldn't buy Russian products dealing with personal data either after it came out that that Russian anti virus company collects data for their government.

 

[maxx720]

All while sending all of your information to the Chinese government

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This and lack of stereo speakers would definitely give some pause.

 

[Oliver James]

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1. Steal phone
2. Open car
3. Steal car
4. ???
5. Profit!

 

[jts]

1. Steal phone
2. Open car
3. Steal car
4. ???
5. Profit!

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Interesting... what about this one:

Steal... car keys.

BOOM

 

[Donos]

Interesting... what about this one:

Steal... car keys.

BOOM

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Or for keyless systems: steal car keys signal with a repeater. Boom.

 

[Deleted member 29676]

This?
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https://www.dxomark.com/huawei-p30-pro-camera-review/?fbclid=IwAR3KHS5OE_3BMM76F4MsSS1OqhBfZPyvoWrQfGEPLXTBjCsNlKzgeg2ut_M&h=AT0NRGRhM2dFYBgwBdTkGNDMG1CQ6xWZ8-eypwwKBnLInNZOJ3TUO0EY1qaB_r5E1j9p7vB_WwOrI1clOuEbYQA4IlxmikgIedKqO_yvwEk28fN7aWuFZTkpbk4x5EEWRw

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Nah. DxO mark isstaffed by people who use cameras for a living and know more about composition, lighting and angles than like 95% of the population. I want to see shots from random college students and families out on vacation.

 

[Nilaul]

Nah. DxO mark isstaffed by people who use cameras for a living and know more about composition, lighting and angles than like 95% of the population. I want to see shots from random college students and families out on vacation.

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Wait for more photos to appear under the relevant Instagram hashtags.

https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/huaweip30pro/
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/p30pro/

https://www.instagram.com/mayoilagan/

 

[zeioIIDX]

Or for keyless systems: steal car keys signal with a repeater. Boom.

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Yeah...my professor showed how to do this is in my network defense and countermeasures class, it's scarily simple and effective.

 

[Objektivity]

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Hua...arison-vs-Galaxy-S10-Plus-vs-Pixel-3_id114869

Some nighttime shot comparisons between the P30 pro, Pixel 3 and S10 plus. The S10 plus is utter trash at low light.

 

[Ricelord]

I wouldn't want a phone that unlocks my freaking car

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[jotun?]

No thanks. I don't want the Chinese government stealing my car.

 

[Jade1962]

Phone looks awesome but too big.

 

[Shibata100]

Was tempted to pull the trigger on this phone but then I read how bad Emui OS is for ram management. That aggressive background app killing would drive me crazy.