How soon after a pay cut should you leave?

[HammerOfThor]

Yikes, yeah I'd start looking immediately.

But, is this a pay cut or a demotion? No idea how this stuff works, but is there a possibility your not really living up to what the job requires? Maybe this is better then just flat-out firing you and their giving you a fair shot?

 

[SageShinigami]

He's not wrong, though. I've been unemployed for long enough so that the first thing that came along was more or less an automatic yes.

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That's cool, but soon as you find something else, leave. And be sure to inform them it was because of how disrespectful they were about the pay cut.

It's worth leaving even finding a job that pays the same, tbh.

 

[Primal Sage]

Is this strictly an American thing or do most countries have it? I don't think we have pay cuts in my country. Employers are simply not allowed to lower your pay. They can alter bonusses and such but the base hourly pay/monthly pay for a set number of hours cannot go down. Only up.

 

[Jeffolation]

You don't owe your employer anything. Walk whenever it best suits you.

 

[Professor Beef]

Even working in retail in the past, I've never been threatened with a paycut nor have any of my coworkers. That's some shameless shit.

Start looking for a new job immediately. Once you've got one locked in, peace out.

 

[just_myles]

After months of unemployment, I've found a job and the respective office is pretty nice and more or less what I'm looking for in a job.

However, after being hired for a month, the boss pulled me into his office to inform me he's decreasing my pay by $2 because he thought I was worth more but i'm not, and it's not fair to the older/more skilled employees for me to be paid that wage.

I like it there, and they've promised mentorship in a career, but i'm not sure about staying after this.

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Line up another job and then leave. Do please remember to be as petty as possible during your exit interview.

That sounds totally illegal. I get if he cuts your hours but your pay? Wish a motherfucka would...

 

[Wok]

Sure, you are getting $80 less a week as well, but $800 a week is not something you just walk away from, ESPECIALLY if you have nothing lined up.

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$80 less money per week is quite the money loss.

It is not just a $2 pay cut, as OP puts it: it is a 9% pay decrease (20/22~91%), it is massive!

In a vacuum, it is better to have something lined up. In practice, if the boss is that abusive, it may be worth quitting as soon as possible, before he pulls other stunts.

 

[Legacy]

Immediately

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[SpitztheGreat]

Look up a temp agency right away. You can find good work at a temp agency and you can get hired quickly. If you have a college degree/any experience at all you will find placement. The job may only pay in the $20/hour range, but if you can swing that then I would make the jump. By definition this is a temporary thing, so while you have this new temp job you keep looking for a permanent solution. In my opinion it is worth it to get away from a shit boss as quickly as possible before you end up hating your job. Take a temp job so that you can plan the next step while not being under the gun of a shithead boss or unemployed.

 

[Mr Jones]

Imagine if you had quit another job because this job paid more and then having that taken away.
Fuck that, find another job ASAP.

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I don't have to imagine. :(

 

[Hollywood Duo]

As fast as possible

 

[BringBackSonics]

As soon as you can?

 

[Apathy]

If that's exactly the words he used to drop your pay I would have told him to fuck off right there and quit. That's some disrespectful ass language

 

[Deleted member 18944]

he thought I was worth more but i'm not

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get the hell out of that place.

 

[yurr]

AFTER?!?!?!?

 

[ps3ud0]

Once you've secured your new job please make sure you let all your ex-colleagues know you left because your ex-boss wanted to avoid paying them more by paying you less after taking your job.

ps3ud0 8)

 

[Jer]

Yeah, that's not normal, I'd leave as soon as you get another position. I've never worked at a company where that's even an option. Only time I've heard of that was across the board salary decreases in 2009, but that was to avoid layoffs, and it didn't target one person.

 

[Addie]

I'd never take a pay cut, period.

I don't know how common this is in hourly wage gigs, but the idea of a targeted, arbitrary pay cut is a complete non-starter and shows that you're working for a failure of a company -- at least from a business ethics perspective, which often bleeds into everything else.

I'd begin looking immediately for alternative employment. Like, tonight. And any mental energy that you would've put towards your job, focus on landing another job.

 

[bionic77]

I have never heard of something like that.

I wonder if they are trying to get you to leave.

That is super fucked up.

Try to get a new job ASAP and do the minimum and collect dem checks until you get it.

 

[Deleted member 41502]

I had similar this year. I've gotten equity every year, but got none this. I've been slowly escalating because each manager just keeps passing the buck up. The latest is, (despite last year being really good for us) "I was told not to give equity to anyone at your level this year".

Unfortunately the corona virus is hitting us hard, so it's an awful time to ask for money. But... You gotta fight for yourself. Also looking for a new job :(

 

[mrmoose]

I had similar this year. I've gotten equity every year, but got none this. I've been slowly escalating because each manager just keeps passing the buck up. The latest is, (despite last year being really good for us) "I was told not to give equity to anyone at your level this year".

Unfortunately the corona virus is hitting us hard, so it's an awful time to ask for money. But... You gotta fight for yourself. Also looking for a new job :(

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That's a little different, though. They didn't touch your base salary.

 

[Deleted member 41502]

That's a little different, though. They didn't touch your base salary.

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Yeah. It just hurt because I'd had a job offer in my hand with a significant base increase and no equity a month before. I turned it down assuming I had the equity cash in hand. My fault I admit, but... fuck them for not giving it this year. My scores were really good. My team made them millions.

Anyway, I'll just have to find another.

 

[Netherscourge]

After months of unemployment, I've found a job and the respective office is pretty nice and more or less what I'm looking for in a job.

However, after being hired for a month, the boss pulled me into his office to inform me he's decreasing my pay by $2 because he thought I was worth more but i'm not, and it's not fair to the older/more skilled employees for me to be paid that wage.

I like it there, and they've promised mentorship in a career, but i'm not sure about staying after this.

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Tell him you'll have to do $2 less an hour's worth of work now to compensate.

Seriously though. How would the other employees be offended by your salary unless everyone there knows everyone's salary?

 

[GARlock Spiral]

Tell him you'll have to do $2 less an hour's worth of work now to compensate.

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That sounds like being paid to scour LinkedIn and Indeed

 

[Rory]

Now my position would be a bit different than yours, due to our laws. Actually I believe its illegal in Germany.

1) I'd clearly state that this is insulting to me and my skills. I'd demand that they reconsider.
2) I'd inform works council.
3) if nothing is done I'd announce to leave if they proceed with this. (Actually, i could get my old pay reinstated and get paid for what they didnt pay, but i would not want to work for someone who actually does not respect me and/or my work.
4) I'd search for a new job and quit.

even if they paid you again normally, i think you should look for a new place

 

[Rad Bandolar]

During the depths of the Recession, small companies were freezing pay or cutting pay just to keep afloat, but now and for a bullshit reason like that? Fuck that. You're working with a bunch of crabs in the bucket.

If this were the Recession, I'd suck it up and hope that I could eventually find something better, but if that happened to me now, I'd get up, walk out of the office, go out to the parking lot, get in my car and drive away.

 

[ToddBonzalez]

Dafuq? Start looking immediately and put in your 2 weeks the second you have something better.

 

[Rory]

why do some of you talk about 2 weeks notice and others about quit immediately?

By law there is no need for notice in america, right? Unless stated otherwise in contract, but it does not sound like op has a contract?

 

[WedgeX]

That seems super insulting. Definitely look for a new job.

 

[Ferrio]

why do some of you talk about 2 weeks notice and others about quit immediately?

By law there is no need for notice in america, right? Unless stated otherwise in contract, but it does not sound like op has a contract?

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Referrals etc. Doesn't really matter if he doesn't plan to put this job on his resume, but if he wants to then he should leave on good terms.

 

[Zok310]

Get something first then leave.

 

[Rory]

Referrals etc. Doesn't really matter if he doesn't plan to put this job on his resume, but if he wants to then he should leave on good terms.

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To be honest, if someone asked me I'd openly say "i was hired under false promises, they lied to me and changed the terms of working conditions".

that shows that you are generally an honest person and also that you honor and look for honest partner.

 

[Ferrio]

To be honest, if someone asked me I'd openly say "i was hired under false promises, they lied to me and changed the terms of working conditions".

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Or they might think you're full of shit and might cause trouble so they avoid you altogether.

that shows that you are generally an honest person and also that you look for honest partners.

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You're really optimistic.

 

[Richietto]

What a piece of shit. How is that even legal??? Secure something new in the meantime and peace the fuck out.

 

[Str0ngStyle]

Real talk, the second you find a new job is the second you leave. Like that day.
If they ask you for the courtesy of 2 weeks notice, ask them where was this same courtesy when they just decided to cut your pay out of the blue? Then keep on walking.

 

[Surakian]

Start looking for another job right now. Do not give them a two week notice after you lock in another job, either. They don't deserve that.

The fact that your boss cut your pay so soon after hiring you signals to me that the workplace will only become more toxic as the months pass.

 

[Rory]

Or they might think you're full of shit and might cause trouble so they avoid you altogether.



You're really optimistic.

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I have always been honest about past jobs, blanks in my resume etc. never had a problem in finding a job. I was even told by someone who wanted to hire me (I rejected that offer because I had a better one at hand) that they valued my honesty during the initial interview.

More like got too many offers. The only thing limiting is my pickyness.

6 month "break", leaving suddenly after 6 years of employment, then leaving again after 1 1/2 year...

 

[Dragoon]

1. What's the job
2. How much exp do you have?
3. What are you getting paid annual pre-cut?
4. Did you tell anyone how much you're working at the office?

 

[AliR7]

Get a new job ASAP and leave without a 2 week notice. I did that once after the employer pulled a dick move similar to that. I had a new job within. Week.

 

[GarthLordOfTheSith]

Immediately. Paycuts are complete bullshit.

 

[Christor]

Just leave man. Without 2 weeks notice if you dont plan for referrals because fuck them. Make it super petty.

 

[Deleted member 21709]

Damn, that's toxic.. sorry this happened to you OP.

 

[subpar spatula]

You got hired and then they decreased your pay. They basically scammed you. You are worth what they initially offered.

 

[Like the hat?]

I would be looking for something else and in the meantime be doing the halfed assiest job i could.

 

[SweetBellic]

How would the "older/more skilled" employees even know what you're making? What a bullshit bait and switch. Going to echo what everyone else is saying and suggest lining something else up ASAP. This company does not deserve the courtesy of a two weeks notice.

 

[Jay1V]

OP was straight up bait and switched

 

[Adventureracing]

As soon as you can get another job.

 

[Lexad]

Please don't leave immediately. $2 less an hour is better than $0/hour. Find another opportunity then leave.

 

[Fubar]

This is likely them trying to force you out the door without actually firing you and risking having to pay your unemployment.

If you quit, there is no chance that they are on the hook.

It sounds like you leaving is a mutual decision. Use them as a paycheck until you find something else. At this point it is very unlikely that they fire you unless you completely mail it in here.

 

[Linkura]

Referrals etc. Doesn't really matter if he doesn't plan to put this job on his resume, but if he wants to then he should leave on good terms.

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If he's been there for one fucking month he doesn't need to put it on his resume. He should just walk.