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How ok are you, really, with Joe Biden as the Democratic nominee?
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We've already fucked ourselves over with Trump. Uncle Joe may be a fucking old weirdo, but if he's the nom, Imma vote for him with bells on. Hopefully he can excite the base (i doubt it)...
Also, what's with all the Joe Biden threads? Y'all defeated already?
Also, what's with all the Joe Biden threads? Y'all defeated already?
A lot of the people scared and angry about Trump should have been scared and angry before Trump, and many of them were. Trump is an aberration in that his egotism and racist attitudes are more overt, but very little of his policy isn't just letting the same fascist machine that has run this country continue to operate unimpeded. Most of his worst offenses were put into practice under Bush.
An abstract notion of "respect for the position of the presidency" is irrelevant in comparison to setting up an entire government branch dedicated primarily, if not exclusively, to racist harassment.
That's probably illegal in your state.
Live on the edge and do it while eating pineapple pizza
Less than thrilled about it, since Biden is basically more of the same establishment politician beholden to rich people, but he'd still be a better option than Trump.
Legitimately hoping that Warren can swing the nom.
Legitimately hoping that Warren can swing the nom.
I'm not.
At all.
Biden represents the worst return to Democratic status quo politics. He loves police, is super comfortable with big business and billionaires, and doesn't want to make any significant changes to attempt to fix the rot that underpins this entire country.
Unfortunately, if he's the nominee, I'm not going to have a choice but to hold my nose and vote for him, but I won't be happy about it. I'm also not convinced he can actually WIN, but it is what it is.
At all.
Biden represents the worst return to Democratic status quo politics. He loves police, is super comfortable with big business and billionaires, and doesn't want to make any significant changes to attempt to fix the rot that underpins this entire country.
Unfortunately, if he's the nominee, I'm not going to have a choice but to hold my nose and vote for him, but I won't be happy about it. I'm also not convinced he can actually WIN, but it is what it is.
Trump doesn't need to be, he has good ol' fashion racism on his side.
He's too far to the middle, but always seemed like an honest sort of dude. Would be fine.
I'm a bit worried about the impeachment and the fake Ukraine scandal though. I'm afraid Republicans will use it to paint him as a typical corrupt politician and successfully re-elect Trump.
I'm a bit worried about the impeachment and the fake Ukraine scandal though. I'm afraid Republicans will use it to paint him as a typical corrupt politician and successfully re-elect Trump.
Canadian, but from what I've seen he's awful. If I lived there and he was the nominee I'd feel forced to vote for him, but I'd be miserable doing it.
You would think, but there's a raving loud minority(?) among the left who think it's Bernie/Warren-or-bust time.
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As long as he can stay in good health I'd be ok with it. The bat-shit executive orders Trump signed will be reversed, our judicial and executive branch appointees will be competent in their positions. Any legislation that comes up will far sooner be moderated to pass the Senate regardless if it needs 50 or 60 votes, than to be watered down by Biden.
Legal in my (not a state) of beautiful Washington DC baby!
If it comes down to him and any Republican then 100% gets my vote.
Otherwise hell no, fk the guy
Otherwise hell no, fk the guy
Would you vote for him in order to stop that from happening?
Honestly, depends on his VP. That could make or break his chances. He needs someone as opposite from his as possible to excite voters.
But in general I'll happily take 4 years of Biden over another 4 years of Trump
But in general I'll happily take 4 years of Biden over another 4 years of Trump
Yeah but Republican voters don't care and democrat voters do, so turnout could be an issue.
Not really. Because he would continue to push this country further to the right "working" with Republicans if elected. While Trump continues to take this country to a bottomless pit if reelected.
We've been through this shit 3 times already.
We've been through this shit 3 times already.
Today, at his Iowa town hall, Joe Biden was about to throw down with another old man (not Trump). "Damn liar". Challenged him to a push up contest and an IQ test.
If Biden wins the nom, I'll look forward to the slap fights with Trump, and I'll vote for Biden in the general. In my state primary, there's just no way I'm voting for him tho.
If Biden wins the nom, I'll look forward to the slap fights with Trump, and I'll vote for Biden in the general. In my state primary, there's just no way I'm voting for him tho.
If he runs with Yang and adopts UBI into his platform I would maybe be a little excited, but I don't believe if he did that he would actually have the slightest intention of bringing that to fruition.
I wouldn't like what it says about the future, but I'll vote for him if he gets the nomination. Right now? Fuck him getting the nomination.
You know what? Y'all are right. We need someone in power who won't be driven solely by his most basic impules, will behave himself, and make us respectable to the rest of the world like the canadian blackface guy and the french dude who says Africans have too many kids (I can't seem to get Twitter to load so imagine I posted the PrettyBadLefty tweet that says about the same thing).
BIDENMENTUM, Y'ALL
BIDENMENTUM, Y'ALL
How many variations on "Will you vote for Biden vs Trump" threads do we need? Do another candidate already
Dude's a Diet Republican anyway so it's a pretty shitty situation but obviously if it's between him and Trump then yeah go Biden I guess.
Anyone is better than Trump but I dont have faith in Biden because I feel like Trump getting elected and the vocal base behind Bernie shows that Americans don't really feel like supporting a candidate who represents the status quo, typical politician that most of the candidates fall under. I think in the current political climate, people want to get behind an iconoclast
A Biden win over Trump would be a relief, given the alternative. We'd at least be able to start rolling back some of the damage done over the last four years. But it won't leave me with hope that anything, fundamentally, will change.
I'm under no illusion that any candidate's campaign promises will be 100% fulfilled, or that big social programs will be easy to implement/get passed. But if a Republican's going to come around in 8 years and tear down, as much as they possibly can, even the most moderate Democratic programs, we may as well swing for the fences. And I think Biden's belief that Republicans are going to have some sort of epiphany after four years of Trump and start working with Democrats is delusional. (Maybe it's just pandering to moderates and he doesn't actually believe it himself, who knows.) And I worry about his intermittently fumbling, rambling debate performances; often jumping from point to point without actually completing a thought, cutting himself off like he gets extra points for not going long, switching from mentioning Obama all the time to doing everything he can to avoid saying his name, verbal slip ups that open up other candidates to take shots at him. Doesn't instill a lot of confidence.
If he gets the nomination, will I vote for him in the general? Yes, 1000%. But it kind of feels like we're (already) limiting our expectations for what's possible in this country.
I'm under no illusion that any candidate's campaign promises will be 100% fulfilled, or that big social programs will be easy to implement/get passed. But if a Republican's going to come around in 8 years and tear down, as much as they possibly can, even the most moderate Democratic programs, we may as well swing for the fences. And I think Biden's belief that Republicans are going to have some sort of epiphany after four years of Trump and start working with Democrats is delusional. (Maybe it's just pandering to moderates and he doesn't actually believe it himself, who knows.) And I worry about his intermittently fumbling, rambling debate performances; often jumping from point to point without actually completing a thought, cutting himself off like he gets extra points for not going long, switching from mentioning Obama all the time to doing everything he can to avoid saying his name, verbal slip ups that open up other candidates to take shots at him. Doesn't instill a lot of confidence.
If he gets the nomination, will I vote for him in the general? Yes, 1000%. But it kind of feels like we're (already) limiting our expectations for what's possible in this country.
I can't believe he doesn't have an answer to the Hunter questions yet. If his team doesn't come up with a decent and quotable response, there's no way he'll be able to beat Trump.
he's a piece of fucking garbage, but still better than trump by a large margin
so wouldn't be excited at all
so wouldn't be excited at all
I'm ok with it. I'd rather have Warren but my feelings are not as important as the big picture.
I think he'll win.
I think he'll win.
Yes, because I'm not some asshole who is stuck on one candidate. If he's it, then I'll vote for him knowing in 4 years he may not be. I'm tired of Trump. The man had no business being president. Anything to get the fucker out
Then do it! But also eat the pineapple pizza so it makes it easier to dunk on you for your Green Party vote