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They could have the living character not matter to much. Have them lead some forces elsewhere. Run into them, some different dialogue depending on who is alive etc.
They will either do it the Wolfenstein 2 way or another old game narrative standard: have some half-assed amalgamation of the two choices be the canon choice.
Feel like JD being alive will end up being cannon.
With my vision, I couldn't tell which was which and so I accidentally picked JD in a panic.
With my vision, I couldn't tell which was which and so I accidentally picked JD in a panic.
I just beat this like a week ago. I went in basically blind, having beaten Gears 4 ages ago and not remembering much of it. I was pretty impressed by that part. I picked not-JD (Just trying to minimize spoilers here a bit) on accident and immediately regretted it because of poor, stoic Marcus.
God I wish I could just hug him...
God I wish I could just hug him...
Have the survivor get gibbed in the first cutscene of Gears 6. Either that or write a campaign in a way that will incorporate the survivor.
Not jd was the correct choice to save, a friend to the end, didn't become a piece of shit like jd did, stayed true to himself, wasnt a Nathan fillion wannabe, Keep jd in the dirt, not jd is best. (trying not to spoil for new players)
Predictions
JD dead = Marcus Fenix has nothing left to lose and Gears 6 will end with him dying, saving Kait and Del in the process
Del dead = JD is racked with guilt and Gears 6 ends with him sacrificing himself to save Kait
Del dead = JD is racked with guilt and Gears 6 ends with him sacrificing himself to save Kait
Yeah, they probably pick one ending and make it canon. Such a heartbreaking decision, because I liked both of them. I saved Del and felt regret right after it because of Marcus. Ah, damn.
My gut tells me JD/Del probably won't even be in the game that much, that would be the easy way to handle it.
I think it also depends who the main playable character of 6 will be. They may not even stick with Kait and we play most of 6 as Marcus or someone else for all we know. I can see Marcus and Kait being affected in different ways depending.
Last theory is that the character who dies ends up being resurrected as a swarm and you have to fight them at some point.
I think it also depends who the main playable character of 6 will be. They may not even stick with Kait and we play most of 6 as Marcus or someone else for all we know. I can see Marcus and Kait being affected in different ways depending.
Last theory is that the character who dies ends up being resurrected as a swarm and you have to fight them at some point.
Del is a non character who contributes nothing to the story, is about as deep as a puddle and is just... boring.
JD is a much better character than him in Gears 5.
JD is a much better character than him in Gears 5.
I felt bad for Marcus, but also... He has nothing to lose and I'd like to see an unhinged Marcus in Hears 6.
Putting Marcus back in the main character role would be awesome. He's more watchable and fun to be with than any of the new cast in my opinion.
Too many unknowns to say, and it depends on how much possibly redundant work they have time for. My guess is they'll have a handful of cutscenes that have mirrored dialogue from both characters, and a handful of cutscenes that play out differently depending on who you chose.
Neither character's death meaningfully alters the course of Gears 5's story, aside from a heartwrenching scene with Marcus (if you chose Del), and I expect it'll be the same with Gears 6 - some dialogue here or there, maybe some minor things play out slightly different, but otherwise fundamentally the same motions in the story.
What they WON'T do, is anoint a canonical choice. You don't throw a huge moment like that in Gears 5's ending, only to then render the choice irrelevant.
I chose JD for the simple reason that I couldn't do that to Marcus. The man has lost his brother and his wife - I wasn't going to take his son too.
Neither character's death meaningfully alters the course of Gears 5's story, aside from a heartwrenching scene with Marcus (if you chose Del), and I expect it'll be the same with Gears 6 - some dialogue here or there, maybe some minor things play out slightly different, but otherwise fundamentally the same motions in the story.
What they WON'T do, is anoint a canonical choice. You don't throw a huge moment like that in Gears 5's ending, only to then render the choice irrelevant.
I chose JD for the simple reason that I couldn't do that to Marcus. The man has lost his brother and his wife - I wasn't going to take his son too.
They gotta do the Wolfenstein way. Also, did they ever reveal who the majority of people saved?
I think the game gives you more reasons to save Del, but on a series wide view JD is the likely choice. It comes down to Del vs taking Marcus' son after he lost his wife, his best friend, his house, his dad and his fucking tomatoes. Needless to say, I picked JD, Marcus deserves a sliver of happiness.
I think the game gives you more reasons to save Del, but on a series wide view JD is the likely choice. It comes down to Del vs taking Marcus' son after he lost his wife, his best friend, his house, his dad and his fucking tomatoes. Needless to say, I picked JD, Marcus deserves a sliver of happiness.
Fahz was surprisingly good. He started as a meh guy but he became much better during the story line. Loved him at the end. He was kinda hilarious in some scenes.
The thing is, choosing to save JD gives you a really touching scene between him and Marcus shortly afterwards. It's great for both characters.
JD really becomes his own man by the end of the game.
JD really becomes his own man by the end of the game.
Fahz is basically Baird v2.0 by the end of the game. Which is actually my primary complaint about the game's campaign - it feels like there's a chapter missing, when JD and Fahz suddenly show up again in Act 3. JD is suddenly an apologetic nice guy again, and Fahz is suddenly not the absolute worst. They needed to show what happened to cause that change.
I'm very curious about this, especially when it comes to the books and such.
Only guess is they'll ignore those characters in such a novel.
Only guess is they'll ignore those characters in such a novel.
I wonder. It's really weird that they'd leave this decision up to the player considering how much it'd impact the characters going forward. They'd basically have to remove them both or reduce their role in the sequel severely. They could also make an ending canon, and JD's death is the only one that makes sense to me because of the impact it'd have on all of the characters, but Marcus in particular.
I played this with my uncle and he was playing as Kait so the decision was his. In the end, JD died, which I'm happy about because seriously, it's JD. He was boring in 4 and a jackass in most of 5. Marcus is used to losing, anyway.
I played this with my uncle and he was playing as Kait so the decision was his. In the end, JD died, which I'm happy about because seriously, it's JD. He was boring in 4 and a jackass in most of 5. Marcus is used to losing, anyway.
Wolf way would be incredible.
But because gears at its core is a coop game. They'll prolly just make mentions of it here and there and replace player 2 with a new character.
I really like how Marcus and JD's relationship is handled in the game, and the scene when Marcus hugs him after losing Del made me well up a little. Marcus knows what it's like to lose a brother, and he knows exactly how JD feels and what he needs in that moment.
The opposite choice also leads to a pretty emotional scene with Marcus. I love when Kait tries to put a hand on his shoulder to comfort him, and Marcus pulls away.
I feel like choosing to save JD makes a brilliant parallel between Marcus and his son. They both go through the act of losing a brother, but this time JD has a father around to help him through it. Where as Marcus found his father and then also lost him within the same short time span.
Quoting myself from many moons ago. :)
Seriously, if they screw over Marcus in this last game I'll be gutted. His character deserves better.
Yeah, I think that moment is really heightened by the fact that Marcus struggles to connect with or show any sort of over love towards his son - but when he hears Del died, he immediately seeks out JD and hugs him because he knows that pain.
Another small thing I like in the story, is that Fahz at the beginning is entirely selfish and arrogant - but by the end of the game he's running over to help Paduk assist Cole. War, sacrifice and loss makes brothers.
Yeah, that was great! I mained him in Multi, because I really liked him. Huge surprise.
Is there a technical reason why they wouldn't do it the TellTale way, in that it reads your decision from your Gears 5 save? Or maybe they'll go "The Witcher 3 on consoles" way, in that you can choose an answer that you want to carry over and have that be canon for the rest of the game.
They'll most likely make only one of the choices canon and go on with it.
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I felt like Del is who Kait would have saved in the moment. Del stood and faught by her side throughout. Plus, I seem to remember thar Del's AI put in a lot of work and saved our bacon more than once in the playthrough.
They will problably make canon the most popular choice (which I believe was favourable to Dell, also, a grieving Marcus for Gears 6 is going to be awesome).
Or they could do a kojima, don't care about it and continue as if nothing happened.
Or they could do a kojima, don't care about it and continue as if nothing happened.
Wolfenstein 2 split storyline method. You choose at the beginning, the two characters take similar roles in the story and different interactions happen throughout.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the dead come back in some way, most likely as a Swarm general in alliance with Queen Reyna/Myrrah. We already know that they have the power to bring back the dead, so why not do that?
I also wouldn't be surprised if the dead come back in some way, most likely as a Swarm general in alliance with Queen Reyna/Myrrah. We already know that they have the power to bring back the dead, so why not do that?
Gears 4 was JD's story, Gears 5 was Kait's story, and Gears 6 will be Del's story. Give me Del of War!
I'm extremely interested in seeing how the hell this gets handled, as often the copout strategy is to essentially write off the character so they barely impact what comes next, but Marcus specifically can't be handled like that. His character would be dramatically different based off his son being dead, and his role in the story is too important to just flip flop that decision on. I'm still really surprised this was a choice people got to make as I really don't see an easy way to handle it.