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How is complaining about rap in videogames still a thing in 2019?
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I don't even listen to rap but I don't go out of my way to complain about it IRL or message boards.
If it was rap that's not the mumble/trap variety I would be good. It just sucks that this game isn't coming out in the 90s when rap was at its best. I'd love to hear Mob Deep over the MK trailer instead.
I guess I want to say after reading this thread, how is rap vs rock still a thing in 2018?
33 years after Aerosmith and Run DMC performed together and here we are lol.
Besides... I think EDM is going to sweep away both as the most popular genre in a few years :) *runs*
33 years after Aerosmith and Run DMC performed together and here we are lol.
Besides... I think EDM is going to sweep away both as the most popular genre in a few years :) *runs*
I don't know why people are bringing up this narrative lol. Hip hop is extremely popular across many demographics. If it was only popular with minorities it would not enjoy its current mainstream status.
Idk why they are complaining to be honest.
Some people don't like repetitive drum loops so it's only natural that they won't fuck with hip hop.
then that's on you, and at the same time it's their prerogative to voice out their opinions. it's a video game they like and so they can criticise it however they want. you don't go out of your way to complain about a trailer music on message boards, yet here you are complaining about people complaining about trailer music. isn't that ironic?
if my fave franchise debuts its newest trailer and it's some shitty song and they're pretty much sticking to that shitty song all throughout their marketing and into the official soundtrack, you can bet your ass I am gonna complain about it.
You do seem to have a lot of complaints though. People have been explaining why they thought the song was bad and their reasons are valid. Its a subjective thing.
I'm a hip hop fan, it's the genre I listen to most, and the track from the MK11 trailer is pretty weak and doesn't fit the tone nor action very well. It's not all complaining about rap, but complaining about that specific song to that specific trailer.
There is definitely racial bias but I'm a 90s rap og, the trailer song sucks rotten ass. They coulda gone with Wu-Tang's "Triumph" or a gritty 90s beat from RZA or Havoc. "Apostle's Warning" would have banged too.
"My empire strikes with the strength of poisonous snakes..." has combat of the mortal variety written all over it.
"My empire strikes with the strength of poisonous snakes..." has combat of the mortal variety written all over it.
There was a thread about the trailer. People commented on the trailer, including the music choice. It's not a big deal. People are not going out their way to complain. It literally takes seconds and couple clicks and keyboard strokes. These are not essays or YT videos. Most one are only one sentence replies.
That's just because they're annoying dipshits.
Slipknot and Nickelback have more defenders around here than is healthy.
Most times it's shitty rap though.
And some games just seem to fit rap more than others. Call of Duty, Fight Night, Madden, have used rap really well in commercials, trailers, and within the games.
Mortal Kombat though? Doesn't give off rap vibes to me. I'd say the same thing if TLOU, NHL, DOOM, or Battlefield marketed themselves with rap.
And some games just seem to fit rap more than others. Call of Duty, Fight Night, Madden, have used rap really well in commercials, trailers, and within the games.
Mortal Kombat though? Doesn't give off rap vibes to me. I'd say the same thing if TLOU, NHL, DOOM, or Battlefield marketed themselves with rap.
This reminds me that the theme song to an EA MLB game years ago was sweet home Alabama. I assume their nascar games had hill Billy anthems as well.
I mean, I don't like a lot of music from trailers, if it was a series I really cared about and the song was garbage I would probably complain on a board. People don't have an ulterior motive, they just don't like the song. I think the song is pretty decent, but it really doesn't fit the trailer IMO.
"And all rap sounds like absolute shit....except that M&M feller!"
Lol, while trying to find this video I came across this post from 8 years ago:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/975211-super-street-fighter-iv/54276202
This dude is pissed that they went with modern rap music when they could've gone with someone like the RZA.
People bitching about music in a trailer is as old as time.
As would anyone with any sense. Nothing wrong with that trailer though.
I mean, this hurts, but you aren't wrong.
You then sub-divide that community even further into "people who are interested in MK" and it's pretty much Seether fans.
There was such a divide in sports gaming communities a decade ago over this, it was hilarious. You had this old guard of old white sports gaming fans (which I am, but wasn't on the same side of the argument re: soundtracks), like the people who would also complain when an NFL player doesn't stand for the national anthem or who tells athletes to "Shut up and play," and then you had this also huge audience of more ethnically diverse, probably younger, fans who were also into the games because they're fans of the sport... And the games started to naturally cater to that audience with the sound tracks, which got better and better every year. And the old guard were so salty that the generic drone of crappy videogame music was replaced with legitimate bangers of pop hip hop songs.
NBA Live 2004 was one of the first that I remember the "controversy" with, and it was often compared by detractors to MVP Baseball '04 which had a much more pop-punk, pop-rock sound track (and still a pretty good one too). And NBA Live 2004 went onto be the first videogame soundtrack to ever chart and sell some specific milestone (I forget what the milestones are now, googey might reveal this). If you twitter search "NBA Live 2004" there's still tons of posts of people talking about how great that sound track was.
Every once in a while you sitll see the complaint on a forum like OperationSports, where some 40-year-old dude who doesn't know why they can't just keep politics out of sports complains about "crap soundtrack" and how they have to turn off the music immediately. I generally think that despite they're generally great soundtracks, Madden and most sports games are complete shit these days, but I still want to walk up to that dude and shake the hell out of him and be like "these games are not made for us, get over it."
For this Mortal Kombat trailer ... I don't think the song fits the trailer, seemed very odd and not the right pace for the action, but I'm also an old white guy who doesn't even play fighting games and saw the original Mortal Kombat movie in the theatre, so I don't think I'm the audience for it to judge.
NBA Live 2004 was one of the first that I remember the "controversy" with, and it was often compared by detractors to MVP Baseball '04 which had a much more pop-punk, pop-rock sound track (and still a pretty good one too). And NBA Live 2004 went onto be the first videogame soundtrack to ever chart and sell some specific milestone (I forget what the milestones are now, googey might reveal this). If you twitter search "NBA Live 2004" there's still tons of posts of people talking about how great that sound track was.
Every once in a while you sitll see the complaint on a forum like OperationSports, where some 40-year-old dude who doesn't know why they can't just keep politics out of sports complains about "crap soundtrack" and how they have to turn off the music immediately. I generally think that despite they're generally great soundtracks, Madden and most sports games are complete shit these days, but I still want to walk up to that dude and shake the hell out of him and be like "these games are not made for us, get over it."
For this Mortal Kombat trailer ... I don't think the song fits the trailer, seemed very odd and not the right pace for the action, but I'm also an old white guy who doesn't even play fighting games and saw the original Mortal Kombat movie in the theatre, so I don't think I'm the audience for it to judge.
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When I first saw that trailer, I thought "is this a fan-edit?", because the song felt so off. I don't really think of hip hop or rap when I see the imagery of Mortal Kombat.
I could see it work perfectly for Tekken and maybe Street Fighter, but not Mortal Kombat.
Then again, I'm the guy that would like to see The Body compose an album for Mortal Kombat:
https://youtu.be/A3EAujCdfJ4
I could see it work perfectly for Tekken and maybe Street Fighter, but not Mortal Kombat.
Then again, I'm the guy that would like to see The Body compose an album for Mortal Kombat:
https://youtu.be/A3EAujCdfJ4
EDM had its run and is starting to drain itself. I would say 5 years ago is when it was at the peak. I would personally like to see more queer artists in different genres move into the mainstream.
Do you honestly think insulting a group of people on here is going to help the negative tone of this thread? You can call popEra loud or extra, but to put them down because they're a fan base, like any other here, is shitty.
The Autumn Wind is a Raider.
NFL Films is the greatest soundtrack to anything ever made in the history of sound, tracks, or ever.
I like a lot of newer rappers like Travis $cott, Ski Mask, Lil Simz (personally more into Grime as a Brit) but I just don't dig 21's style at all, probably because I don't take xans or I'm not trying to be cutting edge by saying "this stuff's good you're just old you senile piece of shit".
However, racism is involved in some people's opinions and that's where the true nature of the problem lies: gamers outside of FGC aren't very diverse, they're usually white, male middle class loners.
However, racism is involved in some people's opinions and that's where the true nature of the problem lies: gamers outside of FGC aren't very diverse, they're usually white, male middle class loners.
The NFL films music is in the game. It's just not turned on by default. You can go into the sound track and enable them, there's usually like 6-8 tracks per game.
Oh yeah that song, I didnt participate in that thread but I dont like that song either, seems like a bad fit. The rap song in 3rd strike was dope though so Im not hating on the genre, hell, much rather have R&B in Sonic games than the terrible pop music they out on them.
What's funny is that the song isn't even going to be in the game.
Literally just one basic reveal trailer was enough to get everyone's panties bunched up
Objektivity
Literally just one basic reveal trailer was enough to get everyone's panties bunched up
Objektivity
People in this thread trying to make rap criticism about race when the majority of hiphop listeners are Caucasian.
I like some rap, prefer older hip hop in general to newer stuff though. But this song was drab, borderline monotone. I felt zero energy coming off the guy and it doesn't really fit in a trailer with people brutally mutilating each other as is typical of MK.
Even if I'm not a big fan of modern rap there's so many better choices they could have gone with from it. Not thinking a song doesn't fit with a trailer isn't a slight against an entire genre and even someone not being a fan of a genre doesn't have to be
Even if I'm not a big fan of modern rap there's so many better choices they could have gone with from it. Not thinking a song doesn't fit with a trailer isn't a slight against an entire genre and even someone not being a fan of a genre doesn't have to be
People are dumb, but also, that trailer was dumb. Who hears that and thinks "Ahh yes, Mortal Kombat indeed"?
You can like a genre of music and still think it might not be a good fit for something. Of course with how varied genres are, I'm sure you can find songs to fit into most things.
That said, it was just for the trailer, if people are still mad, then they're just looking to be mad.
You can like a genre of music and still think it might not be a good fit for something. Of course with how varied genres are, I'm sure you can find songs to fit into most things.
That said, it was just for the trailer, if people are still mad, then they're just looking to be mad.