For posterity, he was actually explaining what his pepe lapel pin meant at the time.
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How does Era feel about the idea of punching Nazis?
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For posterity, he was actually explaining what his pepe lapel pin meant at the time.
Some people do deserve it. GIFS/videos have been posted.
Yeah, I worded that poorly, and didn't understand the "istic" modifier being the key difference in label. I am fully aware that the BQ are not nazis.
I see you. What you're trying to do. Paiting me as an Adolf/Nazi sympathizer. I'm not and fuck that noise.
Here's the thing. If nazism as an ideology is still so prevalent, then surely it's not a huge logical leap to assume that maybe they're having children and indoctrinating them with that, sheltering them from proper ideologies? Punch those children, too? It's more complicated than throwing your fists at everything. You should look into Megan Phelps-Roper.
It's extremely ethical to punch nazis.
I wrote a piece about it and how it tied into Wolfenstein: The New Order here. If you care to read. If not here's some of my thoughts on the matter from the piece.
I wrote a piece about it and how it tied into Wolfenstein: The New Order here. If you care to read. If not here's some of my thoughts on the matter from the piece.
Here's the thing. Nobody actually just wants to respond violently to violence. No one is against education, no one is against deplatforming, no one is against voting or progressive policies. What people are trying to get across is that even in the face of all the good natured education and peaceful rhetoric, there are still people who simply want to destroy who is inferior and promote themselves as superior. They have no interest in being educated or growth or having their hearts moved by just the right kind of inspirational speech. History has borne it out time and time again that there are times when to retain your rights and life you have to physically fight for it. "Violence is never the answer" is a fundamental manipulation of history and reality to try and create a truism that has zero actual basis.
Playa you don't see shit because I never even got close to implying you were a nazi.
No one is saying we're gonna punch children. Quit being so god damn dense.
Sorry.
I thought someone would take it that way after I posted. I didn't mean punching kids, I meant punching the offspring/children of these people - speaking generationally. Megan Phelps-Roper didn't leave the church until she was 25. Though there is an argument to be had over whether or not she should have realized and left earlier, there's something to be said about the effectiveness of extremist sheltering and indoctrination, something I would be certain is going on in nazi circles.
I'm not going to punch anyone who doesn't physically attack me first (or shows signs that they are about to physically attack me). That said if a nazi was in my face shouting at me yeah that's enough of a threat of imminent violence for me to punch them.
Doubt any court of law would say that wasn't in self defense. I ain't going to turn my back and try walking away on someone riled up screaming in my face obscenities. I've seen too many videos of people turning around to walk away and getting punched in the back of the head.
Doubt any court of law would say that wasn't in self defense. I ain't going to turn my back and try walking away on someone riled up screaming in my face obscenities. I've seen too many videos of people turning around to walk away and getting punched in the back of the head.
Gives legitamacy and sympathy to their side, so even if you want to hit em you should think it over again.
If you advocate for bigotry and violence to the level of associating with Nazism, you deserve to be subjected to violence by people defending themselves and others from the violence you choose to support.
TL;DR: punch away
TL;DR: punch away
Btw, what happened to the people in the past who punched nazi's? Did they end up going to jail?
I hope they didn't end up in jail and were able to claim self defense.
Edit: I'm referring to the famous cases and yeah googling it now but it's not an easy google
I hope they didn't end up in jail and were able to claim self defense.
Edit: I'm referring to the famous cases and yeah googling it now but it's not an easy google
If you look at this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...b8fba003e81_story.html?utm_term=.5837686de92c
And this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/vide...4dd490-df82-11e6-8902-610fe486791c_video.html
And think "Well the beating was wrong but you shouldn't just go around punching people. These neo-nazis are as legitimate as the people they beat. Richard Spencer has my sympathy here as much as the man who was beaten."
You would be a moron and should be ignored.
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People empathizing with advocates of bigotry, oppression and genocide are people who are already on the side of those advocates. Anyone who says "I'm now on the Nazis side because you hit them" is simply a coward who was already a bigot looking for a justification that seems reasonable.
We need a poll.
And one of the options needs to read "I'm coming for you, you Nazi fuckin' spaceman."
And one of the options needs to read "I'm coming for you, you Nazi fuckin' spaceman."
How do I feel about punching someone who's ideology led to the murder of millions of innocent people including children and babies?
Uhm.....
Phew, hard question let me think about it for a while
Uhm.....
Phew, hard question let me think about it for a while
How many people in this thread who live in America and are pro-punching have punched the many people you likely see who wear Confederate flag shit? Because the Confederacy probably caused more human misery than Nazi Germany.
I have no issues with people punchinf Nazis. I do not think it's an effective long-term solution to the issue that is neo-Nazism, but it sure is good to see those assholes bullied.
Not to play devil's advocate here, but punching them does not stop them from spreading their hate-filled ideology.
Nazis try to project strength as a way of recruiting losers. Punching them in the face in public makes that tactic significantly less effective.
Well, I probably wouldn't initiate the punch, but I certainly don't begrudge anyone that would just straight up cold cock a motherfucking Nazi in their hate-filled faces.
I can't see myself looking to punch them, or trying to put myself in a position where I can punch them, but I'm not against it if they turn violent and I'm defending myself, and I'm not against someone else punching them if it came to that. I'm past the whole, "just talk to racists" rhetoric. It's clear that approach doesn't work. There is no excuse for ignorance and hate-filled viewpoints in this day and age, where knowledge and information is literally in the palm of our hands thanks to modern technology. Not to mention exposure to others that may not share your same ethnicity, religion, political beliefs, etc, etc, is a lot more widespread than it used to be. Then again, racists aren't lacking in intelligence, and I think that's a poor excuse to justify their hatred. They're lacking empathy and compassion. Many of them willingly refusing to accept another's humanity based off of their skin color or religious beliefs. They know full well that what they believe is bullshit. They just don't care.
I have a zero tolerance policy for intolerance, and Nazi's are disgusting, pathetic "human beings." Fuck 'em.
I can't see myself looking to punch them, or trying to put myself in a position where I can punch them, but I'm not against it if they turn violent and I'm defending myself, and I'm not against someone else punching them if it came to that. I'm past the whole, "just talk to racists" rhetoric. It's clear that approach doesn't work. There is no excuse for ignorance and hate-filled viewpoints in this day and age, where knowledge and information is literally in the palm of our hands thanks to modern technology. Not to mention exposure to others that may not share your same ethnicity, religion, political beliefs, etc, etc, is a lot more widespread than it used to be. Then again, racists aren't lacking in intelligence, and I think that's a poor excuse to justify their hatred. They're lacking empathy and compassion. Many of them willingly refusing to accept another's humanity based off of their skin color or religious beliefs. They know full well that what they believe is bullshit. They just don't care.
I have a zero tolerance policy for intolerance, and Nazi's are disgusting, pathetic "human beings." Fuck 'em.
Punching the hell out of nazi's is one of the great things the world did together.
It should still.
It should still.
No one cries if one of them gets beat, but it also gives them ammunition to sue you which is one of their tactics in being so outwardly hateful. This is the MO of the Westboro Baptist Church, Scientology, and many other similar fascist cults - they literally organize in groups and profit off of picketing, stalking, and blackmail, and shelter generations into their indoctrination machine!
I don't like the idea of punching anyone but not gonna shed a tear over a racist asshole getting a smack.
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