As someone who has never played a KH game but sort of want to pick up the latest to play alongside my kids, would the story make any sense?
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How do you feel about the Kingdom Hearts story?
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Honestly, I doubt it but don't let that stop you. Your kids may be captured by the games like we were when we were kids, and even if you don't get into it, they possibly could.
It's a fun ride I unironically enjoy but good lord are there too many plot critical games.
I played all the games (or watched a movie) recently-ish so I'm prepared but if they do a new arc SE needs to make sure the narrative remains more accessible imp.
I played all the games (or watched a movie) recently-ish so I'm prepared but if they do a new arc SE needs to make sure the narrative remains more accessible imp.
No, but you can enjoy the story in the Disney worlds I suppose. I haven't played the game yet but I think their stories are only slighty intertwined with the main one
As someone who has yet to play KH3, but has read a few reviews on it...no. There are some cinema modes that try to show you what happened in past games but apparently it doesn't do a great job according to reviews. Still, maybe pick it up later and just enjoy it for the combat and Disney worlds!
Which is ironic when Disney which is the owner of those franchises and of Kingdom Hearts approved all of those decisions during those 15 years and is always happy about it. And why they shouldn't when not only it makes money for them on the games but also on license and merchandise?
A fun cast of characters surrounded by a plot too convoluted and poorly written to care about at all.
If you really care about being into the story, it might be worth to check out one of the collections that includes KH1.
Nope. Your kids would probably enjoy the Disney parts and may even end up liking some of the characters.
If you really care about being into the story, it might be worth to check out one of the collections that includes KH1.
It's not really an accomplishment to barf out whatever the hell you're dreaming up at that particular time and call it a story.
I'd be fine if this was a new IP, but as I said it feels like he used Disney as a trojan horse to shove his chaotic nonsense into people's faces.
If you're writing a crossover story that involves a lot of other stories you should write extraneous things simpler especially when the main draws are those other characters and stories. You want to emphasize them not drown them out. That's what a good writer would do. As it stands I have no fucking clue why Disney let it go on this long. It's completely baffling.
Personally the story is way more convulated than it needs to be.
Am I still going to play 3?
You betcha.
Am I still going to play 3?
You betcha.
Absolutely not.
The story barely makes sense if you have played everything else. It may still be a fun game top pick up and play, but you have no hope of actually understanding the story without playing a bunch of other stuff or watching a ton of summaries.
It's weird, went completely off the rails and it's charming as hell.
A fair comparison is Metal Gear Solid.
I love it.
A fair comparison is Metal Gear Solid.
I love it.
Kingdom Hearts's story has a number of obvious retcons and post-hoc additions to the lore to try and make sense of parts of the story that happened after the fact, and how it handles its female characters, particularly fekaoe heroes could certainly be improved. However, all the same, despite the ridiculousness of it and my complaints here and there, I love it anyway. Like, the OC characters and the like don't bother me at all and overall, I love the arcs of characters like Riku in particular and there's more I like than I dislike. So despite the complaints I may have here and there, I'm more positive than not overall.
It's completely obvious. Because they're seeing success of the franchise not only in the games but license and merchandise. Besides, Nomura always needed to get approval from Disney in the beginning but after they saw the success, they mostly leave Nomura's creativity to flow and basically supervised the games. Disney is completely satisfied to the franchise and it shows, even if for some reason you want to ignore what's on your face. lol
The only female character that you can argue that is Kairi because she's the exception of the rule. Aqua, Xion, Naminé and the other girls were great on that regard.
I like Roxas. Everything else is trash. Hell, even Roxas is trash considering what they did to him post KH II.
The games are great, though, so I don't really care. They're extremely "gamey", even though they have a ton of cutscenes, and while that was the norm back in the PS2 days, now it's extremely rare to find a AAA product that feels this "gamey". The levels just feel like videogame levels, the movement, combat and general pacing are not made to immerse you or whatever, they just want you to have a good time with some cool characters and fight cool bosses.
I don't even care about the majority of the Disney franchises involved, the games are just good. Especially II FM, and III seems to be fantastic too from all the spoilers I've seen.
I can skip the cutscenes and the dumb story issue is fixed, but I can't add amazing boss fights to other games.
The games are great, though, so I don't really care. They're extremely "gamey", even though they have a ton of cutscenes, and while that was the norm back in the PS2 days, now it's extremely rare to find a AAA product that feels this "gamey". The levels just feel like videogame levels, the movement, combat and general pacing are not made to immerse you or whatever, they just want you to have a good time with some cool characters and fight cool bosses.
I don't even care about the majority of the Disney franchises involved, the games are just good. Especially II FM, and III seems to be fantastic too from all the spoilers I've seen.
I can skip the cutscenes and the dumb story issue is fixed, but I can't add amazing boss fights to other games.
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I'm kind of in the same position, tbh. I was ready for KH3 to conclude the loose ends from BBS, but then came DDD and, well... You know what happened. Goddamn time travel.
I still like some of the characters and want to see a resolution for them, though.
What's your beef with Kingdom Hearts fans exactly? You were shitting on everyone in the other thread too.
Why do you get to decide what's "normal" exactly?
As someone who just played most of the games (KH1, KH2, KH BBS) and watched most of the movies (CoM, 358/2) I thought the story while silly, it wasn't that bad until Dream Drop Distance. I tried to play DDD but the game felt awful to play, so I decided to watch the game-movie, and holy shit! I feel that DDD is the one that really goes of-the-rails and makes absolutely no sense.
The game has legitimately compelling characters that I seriously care about,k even among complicated plot points.
I mean like after playing through all the games, this scene still crushes me in KH2
I mean like after playing through all the games, this scene still crushes me in KH2
I like the characters and some aspects of the story but feel it got far more complicated than it needed to be. Hasn't stopped me enjoying the games though.
For me is a combination: I like some of the characters, mostly Disney stuff, but I'm mostly there for that beautiful trainwreck.
Lol, this was actually addressed in subsequent games. The kids do not live on THE Destiny Island, they live on a nearby island in normal houses and just go to this one to play. In BBS, it was mentioned that Sora's dad (or maybe Riku's?) would bring them over as young children, but now as 16 year olds they assumedly go on their own. Still kinda wtf to let your kids go on boats by themselves to a different island, but more excusable anyway.
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That was already in KH1. In the cutscene where Sora's mom calls him for dinner, from his window you can see the small island off in the distance. And the kids travelling to the island on boats was also in KH1.
I voted for Kingdumb Farts because it's the closest option on the poll to "I do care if the story is good or bad, I wish KH has a decent story, but I'm in for the gameplay, music, Disney worlds, and fan service because I gave up on the stupid story darkness darkness friendship hearts hearts darkness.
I went from not knowing anything about it to by the end of the summer playing through the whole franchise and being a fan. Super excited to play KH3 at midnight when it unlocks tonight. Ready to be a total mess by the end credits.
There's a leap between going from saying figuratively that someone conducted research on a person to figure out the darkness in their hearts but to take it literally and base everything about this vague actually physical existence of "light and dark" inside of objects plus a million contrived plot-devices the story just becomes profoundly strange no matter how much it's supposed to make it magical.
Agree. Story was a doddle to follow up until and including Birth by Sleep. Dream Drop Distance is comfortably my least favourite of the four core titles.
I genuinely find it confusing and convoluted, but I play the games for the different worlds. Most jrpgs I enjoy traveling from town to town and meeting new characters and geting new quests. Kingdom Hearts takes that idea but instead of new towns you get to visit Tron world or Mulans world.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
Are you talking about the thread where I interacted with a couple of people who came in swinging?
Whatever you're talking about, stay mad about it.
EDIT: I should say post quotes or retract your crybaby, derailing bullshit. Or I can crap on your dumb anime game if that's what gets you going.
If you're that sensitive about absolutely nothing maybe you have a problem with your love of KH, not me.
I think the story is confusing as shit. However as I am taking my time playing through the series, I'm trying to at least retain information as well as making sense out of what is being presented. I don't think I truly will be able to make sense of it all, but all I can do is try. It helps that my boyfriend is a Kingdom Hearts stan and has already done the heavy lifting for me since this series has came out, so me asking questions and trying to make sense out of it, is currently being supported by his KH encyclopedic mind.
First reply nailed it, this is pretty much exactly how I feel. I embrace Nomura's madness and I love the hell out of cheesy, overblown anime drama while recognizing that it's basically the storytelling equivalent of junk food.
I am SO ready for Kingdom Hearts III and the conclusion of this wonderful, weird, utterly captivating story I've been following for literally half of my life (17 years). I love the characters, especially Sora, to death and need to see where they all end up!
MY FRIENDS ARE MY POWER!