How do you feel about Ratchet & Clank (2016)?

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These things:

Different Writers
Movie Tie In
Smaller (?) Dev Team
Most of the team was likely different
Different Creative Director (not actually sure on this)
Different time period (15 years between the two)

A lot of things dictated a lot of changes. I think one of them is that they had to really temper their ambitions because the budget likely wasn't very large, compared to what they would have gotten back in the PS2s hay day (particularly after the largely successful Spyro titles). It's still a very good game, IMO, and it should be acknowledge that it was a reboot, not a remake, so expecting it to mirror the original is unrealistic.

 

[icyflamez96]

But then why did he work on the psmove crossover, 2 years after ACIT released with Salchow's OST?

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I assume the move was an opportunity for him to do something fresh. He surely coulda technically still worked with Insomniac after he moved. Insomniac didn't have that kind of involvment in the PSmove game, so it was probably a different studio reaching out to David and he was like what the hay. My guess.

 

[Deleted member 1003]

The movie tie in made it worse. A Crack in Time is still my favorite from a story perspective.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

Awesome game with fantastic graphics. Hope the success of Spider-Man doesn't mean we have to wait longer for another one.

 

[Deleted member 42105]

Loved every second of it. Brought back all the feels.

 

[Deleted member 9584]

Platinumed it. Had an amazing time. I think that game was peak PS4 for me.

 

[SNRUB]

Alot of the humor in the remake was awful. They even got rid if this.

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I think in some Twitch stream, Ted Price admitted how he thought most of the PS2 humor aged terribly, gags like this specifically IIRC.

But it's miles beyond better than what the series has going on now when catering to the soccer mom demographic.

 

[Asbsand]

It's not a real Ratchet & Clank game in the same sense that MCU is not cinema (I'm facetous but I also half-mean it).

The gameplay side is all fine and dandy. But the whole narrative dimension has not been true to form since R&C 3 or even Deadlocked.

 

[Duxxy3]

Great game. Annoyed that we only got a single Ratchet and Clank game and it was a remake/remaster.

 

[wideface]

I thought it was very good.

 

[Fisty]

I liked 2016 when I played it, but hadn't played the original. When I went back and played the Remaster of 1 on Vita, I was immediately struck by how much of a sarcastic asshole Ratchet was. I think it really fit the character better and gave him a MUCH better arc by the end of the game.

2016 is kinda like a DreamWorks movie
2002 is like a late 90's Nickelodeon show

 

[Ryuhza]

Fun, if pared back. And man, why did we never get remasters of the PS3 games?

 

[Wamb0wneD]

It looks good I guess.

They completely fucked up the characters because they needed to tie in that shitty movie. Hope they do better next time.

 

[Grayson]

Fucking fantastic. One of my favorite games of that year.

 

[Dinjooh]

Absolutely adore it. Still one of the highlights of PS4 for me.

 

[Secretofmateria]

Graphically gorgeous, fun to play, good music, shallow personality. I got the platinum, but the story certainly didnt drive me like say, a crack in time or tools of destructions did

 

[SNRUB]

Fun, if pared back. And man, why did we never get remasters of the PS3 games?

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I still think of this ever since the launch of the PS4. They're literally leaving money on the table.

 

[HMD]

A Crack in Time is still unmatched.

 

[Cactuar]

Literally one of my fave games last gen, really want another, graphics were incredible too.

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Damn that looks amazing.

 

[get2sammyb]

ITT I learned people didn't like this game.

 

[Diarrhea Day-Lewis]

I loved it and wish they had turned out another sequel before the end of the gen. Can't wait to see what they can do with ratchet on PS5 in 4K hdr

 

[John Rabbit]

Only Ratchet game I've ever played and I loved every millisecond of it. Got the platinum and almost went back for a 3rd playthrough.

 

[icyflamez96]

A Crack in Time is still unmatched.

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Yeah unmatched in it's place behind Up Your Arsenal

 

[DarthWalden]

It was okay.

Like all Rachet games, once you get a few of the OP weapons the gameplay loop kind of gets boring.

 

[icyflamez96]

ITT I learned people didn't like this game.

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It's mostly the narrative changes that gets flak. The gameplay is generally seen as good. I'm pretty sure most who flat out don't care for it are prior fans who thought it didn't bring anything new that was good to the table (aside from grpahics).

 

[icyflamez96]

I think in some Twitch stream, Ted Price admitted how he thought most of the PS2 humor aged terribly, gags like this specifically IIRC.

But it's miles beyond better than what the series has going on now when catering you the soccer mom demographic.

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Yeah I never thought that scene in particular was at all funny but at least it's not HASHTAG GADGETRON level

 

[Deleted member 13645]

I'm a massive R&C fan. I beat the 2016 game and it was gorgeous, but something about it just didn't stick with me well. I didn't like it nearly as much as the older games. Dunno if it's my tastes changing or something with the game.

 

[oreomunsta]

It was a let-down compared to how good R&C was on the PS2

 

[DynamicSushy]

It's a good game that I beat and never found a reason to revisit sadly

 

[PlanetSmasher]

The movie tie in made it worse. A Crack in Time is still my favorite from a story perspective.

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I miss the Space Zelda framework it had. Exploring the galaxy and finding little moons and space stations to explore was so fun.

 

[Clive]

it's awesome for what it is: a $40 movie tie-in loosely based on a movie based on the original game and developed in 10 months. It doesn't replace the original game and it did not attempt to re-create it faithfully. That's a great thing, we have two R&C 1 worth playing. Thankfully, they kept Ratchet's personality from the later games rather than tried to recreate his obnoxious personality from the original. There are flaws compared to the original like the music and even if most of the missing planets felt like filler, some were good.

Great gameplay, great weapons, great level design and just fun overall. I do hope the next full R&C evolves a bit more but 2016 is a blast to play and great for what it was. It was not a $60 game either, something people forget now that it's in the PlayStation Hits series.

Much, much better than the original by 2020 standards.

 

[icyflamez96]

I miss the Space Zelda framework it had. Exploring the galaxy and finding little moons and space stations to explore was so fun.

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Moons gotta come back in the next game. They just gotta.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Moons gotta come back in the next game. They just gotta.

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I hope so. I really do.

 

[DC5remy]

I loved it when it came out. I tried to replay it a couple months ago with my kid and both of us got bored playing it, not sure why.

 

[Virtua King]

I had to quit playing it due to how painfully boring it was, which is something I rarely do. Dull combat & platforming, repetitive tasks, generic music, and a bad ABC Family Saturday morning plot; I just couldn't take it.

 

[Don Fluffles]

Gorgeous graphics, art-style, OK story and a functional Ratchet game.

But my number one criticism was "same-old same old."

Granted, maybe for newcomers, it was the essence of Ratchet traditional gameplay if it's their first Ratchet game.

But compared to 2013 Into the Nexus, well, it is that: same-old same-old.

I hope Insomniac manage to evolve, improve, and add new things for new future games.

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I'd rather see Insomniac retool this game by removing the dumb movie parts while enhancing the original script and cutscenes.

 

[electroshockwave]

I liked it but it was disappointing as a remake of the first game.

 

[PlayBee]

A mid-tier R&C title by virtue of its modern graphics, mechanics, and QoL features. Mediocre in terms of content when compared to the original's worlds, characters, story, and music.

 

[TheRealTalker]

for those saying they liked the OG and found the remake to be more bland as well as scrapped some jokes, etc...

this video here in an indepth critic of that (it is more then an hour long)


for those that are interested.... I watched it recently thanks to someone linking it here and I also agree with it

maybe now that they aren't tied into some movie the next game could avoid this

 

[Clive]

I liked it but it was disappointing as a remake of the first game.

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It wasn't one.

 

[Deleted member 13798]

The movie tie-in parts hurt it. Fun to play for the most part but I felt it was weirdly lacking compared to previous entries. Hard to put my finger on it but it wasn't as good as even the original to me, despite being an updated remake.

it felt "sterile", I guess.

Good intro to those that have never experienced R&C though I suppose.

 

[The Praiseworthy]

Not with the best of the series... but absolutely freaking good and excellent of a game.

I enjoyed the hell out of it like any other R&C game.

Still heartbroken that we only got ONE game this generation :-(

 

[CanUKlehead]

Felt "bigger" on PS2, but I don't know if it's just a case of 'oh, I've seen these before (even if it was like 15 years prior).
I still enjoyed it, mind, but just a case of Remaster not living up to nostalgia in my case.

 

[Calamari41]

It was my first experience with the franchise, and I had to stop after a few levels because I was just bored out of my mind.

 

[Dr. Mario]

Very beautiful to look at, very boring to play. 5/10 game.

 

[The Bear]

A great game all in all, but it lacked the soul of the original game(s). It fails as a reimagining/remake/reboot, but on its own it's fine.

 

[Deleted member 864]

It's a fine game, but it also took away a lot of things I liked about the original game.

 

[Bee.Cups]

I kinda hated it. It looks better and it's got weapon leveling, but that's the only ways it beats the original. The characters are a lot more one dimensional this time around, a bunch of worlds are missing from the game, leaving the whole thing feeling stripped comparatively, and they completely changed the relationship between ratchet and clank. In the original they fought, they disagreed, they barely tolerated each other, now theyre best friends from day one for no reason.
The 2016 version also gets rid of most of the hyper capitalist elements that the original trilogy was stuffed with, it's a lot less cynical than the original and a lot more generic, just really basic in it's settings comparatively. You would think a remake would take all the extended lore and build on it, integrating it in ways that couldn't have been done when only one game was released but instead it's stripped down the cardboard cuttouts of the original.
And once again I have to repeat, the remake has SIGNIFICANTLY less content than the original, which is just totally baffling.

 

[Continental 0p]

All of its low points come from being the game of the movie. The gameplay and graphics were continued evolution from previous games, but story, art-style, and music were all negatively affected due to being a tie-in. Music lost some of the series' character back with ACiT, but I liked Michael Bross's work after that game and thought the series was good continuing with him. Although I do consider the rating to go David Bergeaud, Bross, then Salchow last. Story focus changed in the series with the Future titles, but I still liked it all.

 

[King Kingo]

ITT I learned people didn't like this game.

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Aside from the visual spectacle and refined gameplay, it's inferior to the original in every conceivable way.

The original soundtrack had personality, the remake's soundtracks sound like royalty-free music.