Interesting. This plus the expectation of seeing more would have made the PS5 the primary dev platform, then ported to XSX?
From what we the public knew at the time, Sony devkits were abundant and MSFT final hw was ahead. That was the general consesus if we go back 9 months ago. We knew what the Series X looked like, its internals, its specifications, a picture of its APU but not the PS5. What seemed bizarre in hindsight was that we hadn't seen the Series X devkit nor its abundance amongst devs. Looking back this was actually bizarre because you'd think the devkit would be more abundant before launch. Because now we know devs had more access to the PS5 devkit thant the Series X's. Thats why I put that comment from a dev in the OP. Its honestly bizarre.
Not to put too fine a point on it, "the public knows" shit about this.
Also you'd have years worth of domain knowledge of Sony's hardware to carry over. DF kind of hinted at this.
OP also remember that philosophy wise MS is bridging PC and console and cloud (although the cloud blades are just going to be series x's) so they "chose" to wait for full rdna2, I believe they he to wait for full rdna2 so they could revamp and bolster their broad GDK to cover pc and console. They have also tried toying with a game stack tool to help porting across devices for about half a decade and haven't shown it yet. Maybe they fold that in there too somewhere
Fair points and most likely why. On the plus side its great seeing how much their trying to do to make gaming better.
The PS5 is a juggernaut because of 4 generations of goodwill and delivering beyond expectations. It was always going to be a success as long as it didn't have a ridiculous price or no games, no one seriously thought that Sony's silence was going to doom it. All the marketing team had to do was not seem like they were absent to fans and they didn't quite manage that. That might be overly harsh, especially since they've spent a lot on advertising but it's a really low bar.
Phil Spencer said:
Phil Spencer said:
Every xbox to date had "broader focus" relative to other consoles as far as their sdks were concerned.
No offense but this is factually not true.
Fair enough, I'm out of my depth here. Glad the PS5 itself is getting rave reviews :)
None of that is relevant. They had to wait for AMD to finalize the hardware, they had to wait for their own developers to develop the software interface, particularly during a year with a pandemic.
No worries.
Actually the PS5 has more GPU advantages. The TF number only looks at one part of a fairly complex pipeline.
The PS5 OT posting majority are people having issues. There is a 2k+ thread dedicated to coil wine and how load the console is and another thread about how the UI seems to be half baked and missing features.
Probably because the vast majority of people with a PS5 aren't actually posting in the OT if they aren't having issues. This is basic Internet behaviour, come on.
I was rereferring to the hyperbole that Sony is immune from console launch deficiencies
They didn't wait for their final design though. They started manufacturing sooner than MS did. As early as May. Clearly They just didn't want to show it off without enough games to show off with it.
I know players aren't technical, especially console players. I won't pretend I knows a lot either.
Fair enough. Yeah nobody is immune to that lol. There's always gonna be a small percentage of people with issues out the gate even if the failure rate was infinitesimal on a product, which is practically impossible anyway. I'll be surprised if they're at a typically high fail rate though. Considering how fast both systems sold through stock I'm thinking its likely within standard margins.
We can compare tflops of the consoles because they are on the same architecture. It makes less sense to compare tflops between generations or designs of GPUs
