So, if Democrats manage to win the Senate in the next election, they can still use these articles of impeachment to remove him at that time.
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi officially announces the drafting of articles of impeachment of President Trump
- Thread starter Wrestleman
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This.
Trumps knows the senate won't convict him, so this gives him ammo to use in the re-electio campaign.
Removal from office requires 67 senators to vote yes, which will not happen. He is not being removed.
But that's okay.
any thoughts on censure?
I guess the main thing is the GOP will never admit King Trump was wrong so this won't happen.
I guess the main thing is the GOP will never admit King Trump was wrong so this won't happen.
It's a big and likely insurmountable what if, but Impeachment regarding Trump isn't going away anytime soon.
"I was indicted for crimes but the jury (friends of mine) did not convict, vote for me!"
What a great election message.
More like "The corrupt democrats committed a crime by trying to me from office."
Thst's the line he will take.
I dont think there's any voting model that would result in Democrats tmtaking control of the Senate, but trump still wins reelection.
Good luck with that. He's going to play the victim no matter what happens.
Yea these people are looking at it backwards. I'm looking at it like this: 60 percent of the country thinks he did something wrong and these Senators are gonna tell people they're wrong. The American Public hates being told it's wrong
Confronting racists by pointing out their bigotry, hatred and hypocrisies hardly ever goes well. They just double down.
Look at the history of the Presidency and all of the scandals involved in most of their terms. Only three have had inquiries presented, only two were impeached. To even get to this point requires irrefutable evidence, and you had three Congressional lawyers state that they had never seen a blatant abuse of power like this. Trump is the first to be impeached on his first term. You don't think the GOP wasn't spending hours of time trying to catch Obama on anything to impeach?
Important to remember, this is what he's been caught doing. Imagine all he's done that hasn't been discovered.
Important to remember, this is what he's been caught doing. Imagine all he's done that hasn't been discovered.
I trust you're an American, right? This "persecution complex" is part of the rulebook of how dictators and authoritarian figures get elected. Being victims of a process that has punished them and their supported, and the system must be taken down with them removing term limits, and increasing their power. Not suggesting that I am accusing Trump of this, but that logic plays perfectly into the hands of his base and potentially some moderates and independents. If they believe already the legal process is biased against him, this could potentially work in his favor.
I am indeed an American. Trump has been complaining about unfairness since 2015, it is indeed straight out of the Putin playbook. Same with the media being "enemies of the people."
That's my point. It's a strategy that has worked internationally, so it amazes that people either forget or underestimate how much of a working approaching complaining about being prosecuted is. Especially among a White majority population this approach of being attacked and criticized works among that base, and it helped Trump connect with those voters and get elected. Hell, I'm an American myself, but my family lived under a dictatorship. This approach works, and I'm increasingly worried how much longer whatever norms we have left in this country will hold.
I'm right there with you, the things Trump has done and the way he speaks about various things is terrifying as all hell.
However, seeing how unpopular he is gives me hope. Seeing him booed whenever he steps outside his safe zone, gives me hope.
Oh yeah that totally fair trail in the Senate where the people in charge have literally already made up their minds on the outcome weeks/months before it even starts. That trial?
Trump has done worse than any President that's previously been impeached. Anybody talking about Censure is trying to put politics before principal.
We have to remember that crowds on television don't really mean anything when it comes to elections. People like Putin, Erdogan, Mugabe and others got booed and somehow stayed in power. Those crowds represent the highly motivated voters, or those with a low opportunity barrier to attending a rally. Doesn't mean anything by itself on who voters will stand behind. I'm afraid that Democrats will nominate a stinker candidate again and more leftist and/or young voters will sit out, and not enough moderates will make up the difference to beat Trump. It doesn't mean that Trump is gonna get re-elected, but we often taken shallow markers as definitive proof that he's done.
Oh I don't think he's done, not even close. He's going to be the favorite going into 2020 because of the economy Obama handed him. The only way this changes is if we hit a recession next year. I'm just saying that certain things give me hope, nothing close to making me feel certain he's going anywhere.
Republicans don't have to do anything really. They've already abandoned democracy. They will not vote to remove him.
Their only move here is to hope that letting a criminal continue to control the white house and the country won't backfire on them in 2020.
He was going to lose regardless. The impeachment will have very little effect in my opinion. If someone was ignorant and racist enough to plan on voting for him in the first place then the evil obstructionist Democrats impeaching him isnt gonna change their mind. Because they already OD'd on the Kool Aid.
Impeachment is not some magic bullet to Trump's downfall. It's just yet another thing to add to the mound of shit that we have already piled up the past few years. He barely won before he was shown to be a habitual liar, philanderer, and con man. He certainly isn't going to win now after the fact.
Basically, impeachment is the House publicly declaring he should be removed. The Senate then holds a trial and votes on removal.
I just hope that, if McConnell or anyone else in the Senate tries to go with the, "they've been trying to impeach him for years!" thing, someone busts out his quote about looking to immediately impeach Hillary if she won the election. It doesn't mean anything, really, but I'd still like for someone to throw it in his face.
Also impeachment needs a simple majority vote in the House - which Democrats can muster because they're in the majority. Senate needs 2/3rds majority, or 67 votes to remove him. It's an impossibility.
The former would be the equivalent of submitting a vote of no confidence, the later would be if he actually losses the vote of no confidence
I know that? Not sure why people feel they need to keep repeating how unlikely the senate vote is.