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House Democrats subpoena White House for documents in impeachment investigation
- Thread starter chadskin
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Dems: We don't want this to drag on
Almost Dems: We'll give you 2 weeks to ignore our subpoena request
Almost Dems: We'll give you 2 weeks to ignore our subpoena request
The judiciary isn't going to make cuts into the legislative branch and not have the awareness that it is also putting itself in peril by permitting the executive to exist without oversight.
It probably has. Once the Supreme Court says, "It's not illegal when Republicans do it, but we'll find a way to execute Democrats if they ever pull this same thing," the country is done. If the Supreme Court only exists to protect Republican illegal activities, and rule of law only applies to opponents, that's when things break down.
Apparently it then goes to court, and probably gets held up in court for months/years
They have to give them some time. Otherwise they are going to once again argue they didn't give them enough time. Once they don't hand over the documents it becomes another article of impeachment. That's been the strategy they have signaled on this.
What's going on with that deadline? Are the House Democrats giving that much time with the hope that more people also try to jump ship before all hell breaks loose?
Or just make him slip up enough to the point that he's forced out
SCOTUS (or anyone else) can't block a Congressional subpoenas or overturn Contempt of Congress if Congress fully exercises their power, which includes issuing contempt of Congress citations and using their power to arrest and imprison subpoenaed individuals indefinitely.
The Capital Police only answer to Congress and if Congress isn't playing around this time we may see the first example of their use to imprison someone who defied a Congressional subpoena since 1935.
The Capital Police only answer to Congress and if Congress isn't playing around this time we may see the first example of their use to imprison someone who defied a Congressional subpoena since 1935.
He will never resign.
1. His ego won't allow it.
2. The office is the only thing shielding him from a shitload of state charges in new York.
I believe it's under Congresses Impeachment Powers and refusing the subpoena would fall under Contempt of Congress.
2. is the real issue. He could be convinced to resign and play the victim if he thought he could return to his old life. But obviously he can't.
The two week time frame is likely mandatory as well. I work for a company that serves subpoenas for documents. Here in Texas, it's 20 says to comply and with federal cases, it's 14 days. Given this would likely be a federal case, I'm guessing that's the reason for two weeks. We've never worked on something like this though so I could be wrong.
No, it will probably go to court. If judge sides with Democrats, Trump lawyers appeal, then it goes all the way to Supreme Court.
Still remember the wealth of democratic politicians who were urged to keep silent when specifically asking for this hardline pursuit of Trump months and months ago.
The Dems would be forced to. If they don't the entire impeachment proceeding will fail.
Most likely but I don't doubt there's going to be a lot of shit between now an October 18th. Especially as more people just start to realize Trump's sinking.
They already did this with Mueller, they won't comply, Barr will make sure it gets ignored, the Dems will not do much else besides take it to court where it will sit for months. I have some hope that because it is an impeachment inquiry that they may actually speed up the court process. This also makes the 2 weeks stupid because we know where it's headed so move it along a little faster Dems.
They will have enough time to destroy all the evidence. It's just posturing at this point, and a game of delaying.
Congress has only been deferring people who defy a subpoena to the DOJ as a matter of respect the last 80 years. They don't have to do that at all, they can hold someone in contempt of Congress, fine, and imprison them (with Congress' personal police force, the Capitol Police) indefinitely until the subject of the subpoena complies.
The executive branch and the judicial branch is powerless against Congress in this matter (as intended) if Congress actually chooses to exercise their full power .
The evidence is already known to exist so if its destroyed that's a giant crime in and of itself.
It's very different now when the words "Impeachment Inquiry" are attached to this.
Please something happen please!
This is so tiring. Something comes up and the asshole comes out untouched.
Justice god, please do it this time.
This is so tiring. Something comes up and the asshole comes out untouched.
Justice god, please do it this time.
He can't resign. His ego won't allow it. And as the Mueller report showed, the title is the only thing keeping his dirty ass out of jail.
there's evidences people know that exists, if they destroy it, everyone will know and thats a crime in itself, and it will be used as evidence to the previous one too.
Would be interesting to see what happens if congress tried to use the capital police to arrest someone. I'm guessing whoever is being arrested would have their own forces threaten to shoot anyone who came to arrest them and there'd be a weird standoff.