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Horror fans, are the Cenobites aka Pinhead from Hellraiser evil?
- Thread starter Slayven
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god i wish i could drop some deep cenobite lore and blow your mind slayven,
i remember pinhead saying something like the cenobite home is a place of "infinite pleasure and pain, i prefer pain", so it's more about experience and sensation than good or evil. solving the puzzle box is basically saying "hay guise, i want 2 play"
i remember pinhead saying something like the cenobite home is a place of "infinite pleasure and pain, i prefer pain", so it's more about experience and sensation than good or evil. solving the puzzle box is basically saying "hay guise, i want 2 play"
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That's a loaded question, when is banging on someone's door grounds for self defense?
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When i was a young Slayven i went on a horror kick and read a bunch of Barker, espeically that series with the psychic dude and that book that had vampires from mars
Lay it on me cool cat
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when you fiddling with something called "The Lament Conflagration"
When that dude's daughter returns the box to that skinless dude so he can be sent back to Cenobite torture world, didn't they go apeshit and try to kill the daughter for no reason?
In the movies they don't really abide to the human concepts of good, evil and morality. They are neutral explorers of intense experiences of extreme pleasure derived from extreme pain.
In the Barker books Pinhead is literally a priest in Hell's clerical order, and ends up being killed by Lucifer because Pinhead stole his armour, woke up Lucifer and pissed him off. He's basically an evil priest that takes over Hell.
In the Barker books Pinhead is literally a priest in Hell's clerical order, and ends up being killed by Lucifer because Pinhead stole his armour, woke up Lucifer and pissed him off. He's basically an evil priest that takes over Hell.
Neutral. You have to go looking for them to have an interaction with them, but once you are in their presence...
Ugh, I always get the two mixed up lol.
Though Sadako would probably count as evil as well, she doesn't hurt anyone unless they watch the tape but she WANTS people to watch it.
It depends on the sequel, really, but this generally holds true.
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Like the puppets in puppetmaster can be the villians or the heroes depending on the movie
Yes, the Cenebites are absolutely evil.
This reminds me that Sir Mix A Lot sampled Hellraiser
But that's nothing compared to Ice Cube and Predator 2
But Fresh Prince and A Nightmare on My Street might be my fav.
This reminds me that Sir Mix A Lot sampled Hellraiser
But that's nothing compared to Ice Cube and Predator 2
But Fresh Prince and A Nightmare on My Street might be my fav.
Yeahhh they're evil. Kind of lawful evil, but still evil, or they wouldn't have tried to take the daughter with them just for funsies.
Not really, but I have a soft spot in my heart for Judgement (Hellraiser 10). I love the way it builds on the lore of the series.
Evil is such a dichotic word. Some good points brought up here. Personally, no. To me they seem like that's just normal for them. Like, I don't understand women who say "hit me" when you're fucking. I can't do it. I've lost girls because of it, twice. It seems wrong and abusive but I have had one ex explain that was me being blinded by perspective. She felt like it stimulated something and genuinely liked it in the moment.
that's why some worlds should not collide. powerman5k
that's why some worlds should not collide. powerman5k
They literally live in Hell and worship Leviathan, aka Satan. So yeah.
Yeah I've had to bounce because of that too. It's to the point where I'll flat out say, if you're going to ask me to hit you, this isn't going to work.
It's entirely dependent on which film you're talking about. In 1 and 2, they're neutral.
By the time we start getting to 3 and beyond they're depicted as explicitly evil.
By the time we start getting to 3 and beyond they're depicted as explicitly evil.
Yeah, I said neutral because I haven't really watched any of the others beyond 1 and 2.
i feel like 3 is the pinnacle -- enjoyably schlocky with just enough production values to be acceptable
