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Horizon: Zero Dawn - PC version footage
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At least I got it before they "fixed" the price on Steam. Gonna see if I can get 30 fps at 3840x1600 on my 1070 on at least medium settings. If not, I'm gonna refund it.
Hmm... I was so ready to double-dip on this one although I platinumed it on PS4. I think I may wait a few patches before diving in now.
Such a great game and world. I was ready for widescreen 144hz 100FPS+ goodness with this one for sure.
Such a great game and world. I was ready for widescreen 144hz 100FPS+ goodness with this one for sure.
What's with this dedicated shader compilation wait time on some PS4 ports (iirc Detroit had it too)? I feel like we've had the discussion before for a different game but I don't think there was a clear answer provided back then.
Really disappointed with this release, they're basically admitting they will be launching a semi-borked product. No harm in "delaying" it, they really had the best chance given that they initially just announced "summer" or whatever.
Really disappointed with this release, they're basically admitting they will be launching a semi-borked product. No harm in "delaying" it, they really had the best chance given that they initially just announced "summer" or whatever.
Animations locked at 30fps, stuttering while the UI updates or the camera moves during a "movie" scene and then those "mirror" effects to fill the widescreen during "movie" scenes, it kinda looks like they checked every box on a list for a bad console port.
I wouldn't have expected that, i thought the Decima engine was ready for PC.
But no DLSS was kinda known, it is a game with AMD marketing.
Hopefully they can iron out those problems in a fast manner, the game kinda deserves that.
And now that i think about it, i hope the "60fps" animation patch will also be ready for the PS5.
I wouldn't have expected that, i thought the Decima engine was ready for PC.
But no DLSS was kinda known, it is a game with AMD marketing.
Hopefully they can iron out those problems in a fast manner, the game kinda deserves that.
And now that i think about it, i hope the "60fps" animation patch will also be ready for the PS5.
What do dx12 and Vulkan do differently that would require shader pre compilation?
Preloaded and ready to go for some ultrawide and high framerate goodness. This is my 2nd favorite game this gen (behind Bloodborne) so even though I platinum this game on PS4 I'm very happy to double dip.
Its Nvidia proprietary tech which requires active work on the part of Nvidia. How is that even possible?
This is a bad attitude to have and limits the potential of PC games. 'Max settings' doesn't mean anything - it's not a standard measurement. Also, what's 'max resolution'?
Limiting games to only implement 'max settings' which are designed to run at high fps on the cards at the time of the game release limits the future scalability of the game, which would deliberately neuter a benefit of PC gaming.
This isn't a comment on this port, but the general attitude of 'I have x GPU therefore I must be able to run at max settings' is not good and doesn't make sense.
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That doesn't really answer my question. Horizon ZD was built for PS4, so it's potentially drawing more per scene than RDR2 (console settings).
Its also that horizon was heavily configured for the PS4 in mind right down to the bit level in many cases for maximum optimization, what was done by the engineers on horizon was truly remarkable.
Not really surprised to hear about the pc issues with hardware.
except the PS4 is not using any specific special hardware unlike PS3/Xbox 360
this is just straight up a bad port, especially coming straight after DS
I assume he's talking about the PCIe slots on your motherboard. Usually not all are PCIe 3.0/4.0 x16. Gotta check your manual
Guerrilla Games didn't handle this port, it was by some developer ive never heard of. Id assume the performance is some combo of the much touted low level GPGPU work present in this game and the ability of the developer doing the port.
This was said earlier in the thread. Someone earlier said it was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuos who did work on the game on PS4. But I'm not sure where this information is coming from.
Could it be that DS made specialised adjustments to Decima during development, hence the port quality, while these changes just weren't possible for Horizon because it's an older version of the engine?
You misunderstand me, then. I'm not part of the "max settings on every game in existence" crowd. I'm in the "I can play every PS4 game at max settings on my PC, why isn't this one working?" crowd. You know, like every other person in this thread.
no one will ever be able to answer that outside of GG themselves and they won't
regardless of the reasoning, the game came out 3 years ago it's INCREDIBLY embarrassing that cards better than the PS4 can't brute force themselves past PS4 settings and framerates
their FAQ speaks to the game being half-baked if they can't even get AF working on top of a ridiculous 10-15 minute shader compilation time
GG is clearly full of talented developers, this whole situation seems to be more related to a lack of time spent on this port. There is no reason it should've ever been released like this. All it does is make the devs and Sony look bad.
this excuse is nonsense, DX12 and Vulkan have been around for years now
even without DX12 and Vulkan, there is very little overhead with NVIDIA's DX11 driver
PS4 uses the same CPU architecture as PC yes but there sure are ways to leverage low-level access and well known target HW for optimization anyway.
Well this is a bit more encouraging than the stuff we've been getting the majority of the day. I have the exact same rig as you except my CPU is a i9-9900k, so I'm hoping for a very similar experience. If I can't get a manageable framerate at 3440x1440 then hopefully I'll have this to fall back on.
Thanks for the information, sadly my Spanish hasn't been touched since college years ago but I did skim and see they mentioned that studio.
One of the comments in comment section compared consoles to communism and PCs to capitalism which is pretty amusing.
If they're selling this game they have to fix it. Especially if they're going to charge 50 dollars.
PS5 may get some features from the PC version but don't expect anything more.
It's a fact. Vulkan and DX12 still need to abstract away things like inner cache workings on GPUs since things actually work in different way on different GPUs and especially between manufacturers. Also it wouldn't really scale in terms of developer hours to implement different render backends (at least branches) for different GPU microarchitectures.
Not saying low-level GPU work is the crucial bit in this port's case though, I have no idea.
so why even bring this up as if it's somehow relevant?
they fucked up the port, this isn't some "code to the metal" bullshit
there are unique challenges to porting to PC, but this is not some unknown uncharted territory; I imagine they got plenty of vendor support from AMD and NVIDIA
PS4 Gnm API is far lower than dx12 or vulkan. There is a lot you can do on consoles that is just not possible on PC without large performance penalties. DX11 is painfully slow by comparison.
Because, well, there are lots of ways to "fuck up a port" and we don't know yet which one it is here?
You never heard about Virtuos? :)
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From everything i can find, their contributions amount to nothing more than some outsourced art assets. They are just cheap labor.
Special hardware has nothing to do with it, watch some of the conference panels on how they achieved the graphics sometime, its really interesting how they coded the game.
Not denying it might be a bad port either, this game was made very differently then DS and that obviously shows with how DS performs considerably different then Horizon on PC.
False.
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Err. The lowness is kind of irrelevant, if you're making a ton of calls on a PS4, you consolidate those calls on DX11, DX12, or Vulcan. You'll get better performance out of the PC. You just don't use the precise same render pipeline as you would use on a console.
Im not sure how that refutes my post about their contributions to HZD.False.
Game Development
Virtuos provides outsourcing support for co-development, full stack development, porting and gameplay and level design for AAA games.
Virtuos: Switch ports, co-development, and next-gen
Virtuos was founded in 2004, with the goal of shipping games on every major platform on the market, whether that was Pl…
Its not at all irrelevant. You would never make a ton of calls in Gnm. You can draw things far faster and cheaper on Gnm than on any available PC API. It isnt even close.
yeah, that is a fair point
just getting worked up over how shite this is turning out, sorry
yes specialized APIs can give you more than equivalent hardware on PC
the difference between this and DS is that DS actually put in the work to take advantage of what the platform offers; this feels like a rush job in comparison
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Are people in this thread really unwilling to accept that low level access to hardware, and coding to just one (or two) specific, custom APU comes with performance advantages? lol.
Just accept that for the big advantage that PC gaming has: to freely choose your hardware, comes the disadvantage of having game code that can't really take full advantage of one specific architecture, and with more layers of abstraction that will obviously run shittier.
Just accept that for the big advantage that PC gaming has: to freely choose your hardware, comes the disadvantage of having game code that can't really take full advantage of one specific architecture, and with more layers of abstraction that will obviously run shittier.
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