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4 is so weird. If reviews weren't subjective, they'd all be basically the same, and have the same score, and metacritic wouldn't need to exist.
Given that resetera is an enthusiast forum; it kind of surreal to witness people struggle with the basic concept of personal preference and user experience.
It's one thing to disagree, but to come out with wild conspiracies about specific outlets and their journalistic integrity is just bonkers.
It's one thing to disagree, but to come out with wild conspiracies about specific outlets and their journalistic integrity is just bonkers.
If you get the PS4 version you can upgrade to a PS5 version for free but you can't preload.
If you get the PS5, it's $10 more but you can preload.
The tribal stuff turned me off from the first one but I think I'm going to give this one a shot it looks more fun to simply explore
literally everyone at this point
thats half of what makes it fun, I guess. seeing what the complaints are. I'm excited to try it, if only to see the purdy graphics, but im TRYING to save myself for Elden Ring. Who knows though. I am not very steadfast with games.
The Elden Ring thread will probably be just as much as a wild ride. I'm very much excited for Elden Ring too and if the previews are a good representation of rhe final product, it'll be a hit as well. Honestly we're eating with great games coming out within weeks of each other.
Are you suggesting people approach this topic with...equanimity?
I could care less what reviews say or what score it got, my purchase was guaranteed the day it was announced. The first one was fun and I want to more about the world and characters. People need to care less about what others think and just enjoy the video games you like.
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Even 88 or 89 would represent some great scores. Lower than that would be an outlier in From's Souls-like output in recent years, though.
I think people will quickly dismiss negative reviews as soft reviewers and move on. The difficulty creates friction which causes a level of eliteness around the Souls games that makes it easier to write off negative reviews.
PlayStation's tentpole games are populist by design and polished to remove a lot of that friction. It's why you have crazy people banging on about objective reviews because the criticism of the game comes down to whether you think the game is more or less than the sum of it's highly polished parts.
Don't reviewers usually score harder games worse
Doesn't matter to me. I'm gonna be playing it day zero
Sekiro scored pretty high for how fucking difficult it is lol
Be prepared. Unless they are doing something really special or different with the open world, I've not seen anything that says Elden Ring is a 90+ game. I'm expecting it to land in the mid to high 80's.
A lot of hard games score quite high, especially the past couple years
Dude all Elden Ring has to do is score an 89 like Dark Souls 3 did and people would be happy. If it somehow hit 92 MC like Bloodborne I think people would be ecstatic.
If it scores 89 people are going to be screaming bloody murder, telling reviewers to "get good" and all that.
I can honestly see Elden Ring hitting 93-95.
Also, I'm very happy with HFW reviews. I can't wait until Friday!
Also, I'm very happy with HFW reviews. I can't wait until Friday!
Get in and get out of review threads. It happens all the time so it's nothing new here.
Those people should be labeled as crazy. ER is what? Basically Open World Dark Souls right? Ill be happy if it scores just as good as DS3.
I've read people on this site say Elden Ring is going to redefine open world games for the next 10 years. Which, hey, it might. But a lot of people's expectations are through the roof.
Expectations like that are going to hurt its overall reception.
I'm coming into this thread apparently really late - but how exactly are there 53 pages of discussion about this game's reviews? Especially when its still a pretty goddamn good meta average?
With this page count I was expected high 60s.
With this page count I was expected high 60s.
No way is it going to be a BOTW kind of change. It will probably change how we view open world action rpgs but not open world games as a whole. I will be happy to be wrong.
that's unlikely, from what I see From's games are usually reviewed by journalists with a good experience with them (and that usually have always loved them).
That's how i see it. Elden Rings feels very derivative, all i see is Dark Souls open world, which is not an insult by any means. I think it will be below 9.
Fewer games are cracking 90 these days anyway, so I won't get too hung up about 89 its still a fantastic score. HZD is my favorite Sony exclusive, and this seems to be unambiguously better, I can't wait.
There's always so many people in review threads claiming Chapter 1 happens. But is there anyone actually saying the game is garbage and cancelling a pre-order?
Other than trolls and joke posts, I don't see it.
I honestly don't get the hype for Elden Ring even though I like all the Souls type games. But it honestly just looks like Souls with a bigger more open approach. I'm sure the exploration is gonna be super fun when I play it but the combat experience and general gameplay doesn't seem revolutionary or different from what I've already experienced.
Looking forward to it but nothing that seems on another level of improvement over what Forbidden West has done over its previous game. They basically seem to have done the same thing which is step up everything that was good about the games before. I'm cool with that.
Looking forward to it but nothing that seems on another level of improvement over what Forbidden West has done over its previous game. They basically seem to have done the same thing which is step up everything that was good about the games before. I'm cool with that.
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If we're making Metascore guesses based reasonably on FromSoftware's previous output for the type of game Elden Ring is, I think mid-80s is unlikely.
Demon's Souls (PS3): 89
Dark Souls: 89
Dark Souls II: 91
Bloodborne: 92
Dark Souls III: 89
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice: 91
Demon's Souls (PS5 Bluepoint remake): 92
Mid-80s (84-85-86) would make Elden Ring the worst received Souls-like they've ever developed. I just don't see it. They're generally pretty good at either hitting 90+, or getting within a point or two of that. Personally, I predict a floor of 88, and a ceiling of 93, with the latter being an "absolute most ideal conditions" prediction. Realistically, I think 91 is a fairly safe bet, so that's what I'll go with.
I was being hyperbolic. There were several serious comments that said that they were no longer interested in the game or that they don't have time to play games that don't score higher than 90. There were also a few comments that cherry picked one or two reviews that differed from the general consensus to support not wanting the game. They weren't super common, but neither were the other three. The reason this thread is at over 50 pages is because of the sheer amount of people responding and saying the same things to a few numbskulls who needed to check themselves, refused to, and therefore wrecked themselves.
I dont think From games would cause these meltdowns.
As the biggest From fan I fully expect some reviews may give it a 7 or lower. Will not bother me one bit. From games are unique and your standard fare gamer and bloodvial complainers who are used to the AAA 3rd person FotM simplistic gameplay will prob not enjoy it.
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The needless jab at people who think the Blood Vial system is pure shit 🙃
Elden Ring will be their third game in a row with an Estus healing system. I'm pretty sure we don't need to defend Blood Vial farming, considering From themselves have realized how suck it was.
Nah. From fans live in a post review score world. If every reviewer liked a new From game it would just mean the series got all the edges sanded off - and the edges are what makes the games unique.
That is a decent point. (Except for DS Remake which I wouldn't count as a From game)
Bloodborne would easily be at a 93-94 if they didn't have those awful loading times when the game initially launched. I remember that being a sticking point in a lot of reviews when it came out.