If you want to say you loved every bit of the special, I'd say go to the thread for the special. This one is about how people are finding portions of the special to be incredibly offensive, so coming into this thread and proclaiming that you loved every second of it would be trolling.
I was hoping we could actually discuss how fucking hilarious the birdshot-buckshot-birdshot-buckshot-buckshot-buckshot bit was without having users try to derail the thread and make themselves the topic instead of the topic stated in the title.
That would be the other thread. And yes, that bit was great. Pretty much everything from the 30 minute mark on was great.
I don't understand why you would hope to discuss/post something instead of just making your post that pertains to the topic and discussing it.
Raping, grooming and abusing children is something others would consider a "really, really wrong kind of fucking weird" as well.
I'm responding to an element in your post where you chose to have a sliding scale of 'weird'.
The track is maybe.. to not just post shitty drivebys of "oh yeah, loved this, he's still got it!!" and maybe acknowledge the issues being raised in the OP? You know.. when someone makes a thread about a particular subject, it's best to engage in that discussion, that's how forum discussions work.
And they should get whatever assistance is needed to help them through whatever traumas they endured.
This is such an incredibly dismissive and shitty take.. it's hard to comprehend these kinds of talking points. You know, just maybe, what MJ did is bigger than just MJ himself
I don't understand why that means we should be less critical of him just because he's dead now. Which is how your posts read, with a slight sprinkle of condescension.
You seem to want to discuss the topic of the title (the article and backlash to the show), but then:
..before to looking to soften MJ and then say that he's dead when it's picked up on..
What actually was it you wanted to discuss that was in the title of the thread?
You're literally the one that put them on a sliding scale instead of equivalent.
I'll play along with your bad faith argument, sure. Shitty take that your conclusion of the MJ stuff is "the man is dead", like that fucking means anything other than the obvious reality that he can no longer be prosecuted.
Just reading it as you wrote it, as a sliding scale:
Again though, what are you actually trying to discuss in the thread regarding the title that you couldn't before when people were 'making it about them'?
It depends on the context of the joke. Are LGBTQ people the butt of it? If so, it's never acceptable. And for other marginalized groups. Punching down is always shit.
The former (punching down) isn't justified by the latter (combating the drug problem); there are many ways to get there withing doing this. It's a poor excuse.
Well said...in the end though, it's why I prefer comedians to do Jerry Seinfeld style or Sebastian. Yeah sometimes you have to touch sensitive material, but when you're vulgar and foul mouthed all the time, I think It just decreases your sensitivity and ability to be pleasant and an overall humble person. I used to talk anyway I wanted and my mindset was always focused inward, like it's ok to speak in a way to not hurt others feelings lol, doesn't make you weak. Chappelle is pretty funny sometimes, but it just seems really easy to not offend to the level that he is offending today, like damn brah, it's ok to be nice.
Hmm, maybe if a comedian had a Netflix special where they defended a white rock star for sexual assault of minors then you'd see it discussed here. Otherwise, why not make a thread about these particular concerns?
I meant the board in general, and social media more generally. Allegations against white rockstars have not gone viral the way it has for black musicians. That's what I find bizarre.
I think we've barely scratched the surface, to be honest. I get the feel that child abuse may have been widespread in media industries up until recent decades. For example, the whole Jimmy Saville thing in the UK exposed that the BBC played a role in covering for Saville, which suggests that the BBC could've also covered for other celebrities. And then there's stories of rockstars abusing "baby groupies" and of course Hollywood stars abusing children.
If you think an allegation or case isn't being discussed here then make that discussion. I don't think we need vague whataboutisms when it comes to child abuse.
