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Hillary Clinton warns of 'huge consequences' in Afghan US troop withdrawal
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Her relevant experience... of being horribly wrong on foreign policy?
She's not wrong, but we also can't just have our troops in this mess forever. This was a huge mistake that should never have happened, and there was no way to fix this without it going bad. Keeping troops there really is not the answer
It's a 6 minute interview and she talks for most of it, and she also talks about that the US should have a visa program for Afghan refugees if things do go south after the withdrawal.
BBC just chose that one quote, added "warns", and ran with it for the headline.
BBC just chose that one quote, added "warns", and ran with it for the headline.
Even if Al Gore was president and 9/11 happened, there was likely no way he'd have been able to avoid going in. He would have gotten skewered domestically by pretty much everyone.
I think the error was more that there wasn't a plan, then there was a further massive loss of focus due to the terrible decision to go into Iraq.
"There are consequences both foreseen and unintended of staying and of leaving"
So wrong, sooooooo controversial.
This is a bitch eating crackers moment.
Stop what? Is she not allowed to do any interviews or give her opinion anymore? She's still a public figure...
I'm really not getting the hatred for her actions
We know. There are trade-offs either approach. One doesn't involve our service members fighting and dying for something that will never be realized at home.
A visa program after saying there are going to be issues staying or going?
What a monster.
I have far less kind words for anything Trump has to say but you go right ahead
As a seasoned politician with an extensive history in these matters, she should probably shut the fuck up and start a book club or something!
There are consequences to both staying AND leaving.
Shes not wrong. Not sure why the article title only leans on the negatives of leaving, instead of the negatives of both.
Shes not wrong. Not sure why the article title only leans on the negatives of leaving, instead of the negatives of both.
What do you think is wrong with that date?
It is the date Wikipedia claims ResetEra opened.
Clickbait. Interesting that the headline and OP chose not to mention a refugee program proposal. Which is something people here have suggested should happen.
I've been punished for shitting on Hillary before.
She was for the Iraq War and she was such a bad candidate that she lost to a game show host in a presidential election. This place loves her despite all that. It's mind boggling.
This was the second part that I wanted. Sure, leave. But have something in place for those that need to get out of the country. Visas for afghans that want it is importannt.
I hope its:
Hillary Clinton (Noted Warmonger) warns of huge consequences in afghan us troop withdrawl.
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Literally this. I hate how Era members prance around acting so progressive, yet jumped at the first chance to tell women to shut up. Disgusting.
Thanks for the great invasion. HAGS -U.S.A.
She's right about bailing and leaving a vulnerable population behind. A lesson the American military has chosen to ignore repeatedly.
True that.
She's right about bailing and leaving a vulnerable population behind. A lesson the American military has chosen to ignore repeatedly.
True that.
She also warns of consequences of staying. And suggests creating a refugee program. Probably could fit that in there too.
True to all of the above.
I would like to think that there would be some international support to keep the region somewhat controlled, but I guess it's just a political grenade after 20 years.
It will fall under Taliban control again. We'll have to see what that means long-term.
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Not just Hillary either, we saw the reaction when people were upset that Warren didn't immediately drop out and support Sanders.
It's simply because Bernie was the better and more likable candidate.
True progressivism is about policy first. Identity politics has only set us back, especially now that conservatives are weaponizing it against the left. Americans just want to know what the fuck our leaders are going to do to help us.
She... hasn't done that much except make comments here and there? She was right about a lot of things, but voters didn't like her.
Threads like this just show how successful the decades-long smear campaign against Hillary by the Republicans has been.
And screw whoever came up with this misleading headline just to get clicks.
She's a former secretary of state. In this matter, she has more experience than most.
If you guys don't want hillary to answer ANY questions, you'd better focus that hate towards the journalists and those feeding on clickbait
I will never not jump at a chance to tell a TERF to shut the fuck up.
Actually, I was wrong, that clip about Afghanistan was 6 minutes, the full interview was like 30+ minutes long and she talks about many subjects, including India and COVID, Putin/Russia, and others. Here's the transcript: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2105/02/fzgps.01.html
And here's the question and her full answer:
and also for those who think she's being divisive or attacking Biden, she gives him an A, and compliments the hell out of his first 100 days
And here's the question and her full answer:
and also for those who think she's being divisive or attacking Biden, she gives him an A, and compliments the hell out of his first 100 days
Everyone. civilian employees, any women who hold degrees etc. All of them. Visas, TPS etc.
Remember when Neera Tanden (a known war monger involved in moneyed interests) was up for Director of the Office of Management and Budget? Anyone critical of her background was painted as anti-woman, when she was purely corrupt.
I'm sorry. It's a thing. We need to focus on policy first. And, anyone who's pro-war at this point is NOT progressive.
With the amount of money we pour into the military and endless conflicts we could end homelessness, cancel student debt, and fund infrastructure deals that bring us to a grade of A+ instead of C-.
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It means terrorists plotting and training in peace, profiting obscenely from drug exports, leading to more attacks in the US and Europe, because there's no US troops around to disrupt them.
It's true, the US barely accomplished anything during their time there, it was a futile game of whack-a-mole. But abruptly leaving the nation without a stable government and authority (i.e - one that won't fold easily to corruption and incompetence) shouldn't be celebrated. It's a damning indictment of the Bush admin, and an unenviable choice to make by Biden. I can't fault Americans for breathing a sigh of relief for all the obvious reasons, but...the bad guys now have respite. World spy networks will need to go into overtime to root out incoming attacks.
Wow, so people in this thread have been getting their hackles up for... nothing.
Telling a former secretary of state to shut up and not dare comment about *checks notes* US foreign policy.
Come up with BS reasons all you want, but this thread is a damn good example of misogyny.
Also, still blaming her for losing in 2016 when we know how much interference there was by Russia and related interests. But it's so much easier to ignore all that and blame one person.
Well, at least I know who to block 😒
Era has been very pro Hillary with the whole YAS queen post the past 4 years.
She actually said exactly that via a visa/refugee program. Wasn't highlighted in the OP, though.
Not to get too off topic here but, Hillary is not a TERF. She clarified her comments back then:
11/19/19: I've spent the last several weeks on the road with my daughter, Chelsea, talking about the book we wrote together—a book whose subtitle is "Favorite Stories of Courage and Resilience." As Transgender Awareness Week draws to a close, I'm thinking about a community that embodies those traits—a community that has overcome some of the fiercest and most violent opposition imaginable.
Not long ago, I was asked about these issues. Let me be clear: transgender people deserve nothing short of full equality. As Secretary of State, I was proud to change policy so that transgender Americans could carry passports that reflect their true gender. As a candidate for president, I sought out the input of the transgender community, and put forward a platform for trans equality. I'm glad to see the Democratic presidential candidates putting forward platforms of their own.
In a time when we're living through a crisis of violence toward transgender women of color that's getting worse instead of better, cruel decrees from the White House about transgender Americans who serve our country, and an era when bullying and discrimination are being elevated like never before, it's clear that we have urgent work to do. This is a moment for every single one of us to affirm that transgender people deserve equality, safety, and opportunity. Millions of people see you, and stand by you.
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