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Really cool that a mod supports intra party infighting in a moment where multiple users are complaining about toxicity in EtcEra

Are you really trying to imply 2Bee is fueling toxicity lol

Clinton is being brutally honest, how people perceive that honesty is up to debate but it's pretty clear she's not giving a fuck with a filter anymore.
 

LCGeek

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Hillary: "no one in the elite likes him, he's all alone in the senate"
also Hillary: "he is a career politician"

no, Hillary, you were a career politician along with the vast majority of congresspeople, taking corporate bribes and defending the interests of the wealthy while Sanders was never part of the elite club

she is completely despicable, but watch some people go full yass queen in this thread because she's attacking the guy they don't like

A loser like her doesn't deserve my wrath at this point. Nothing but bitter tears and the timing of this is to help out her centrist buddy like biden.
 

Ichthyosaurus

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Talk about a straw man argument, lol. Of course he couldn't get "anything done" when the vast majority of the House or Senate didn't -- and still don't -- share his "radical" views. You can't put into effect legislation without the votes. Doesn't mean his efforts haven't been noticeably real, because they have been. Apparently she's still salty about it all. She could've gone down as the first woman President of the US, but instead her past came to hunt her. You can't blame Bernie for that.

Sure we can blame him for being a lousy politician, that's what he's there for. To get those votes.

Anyway. Since his candidacy announcement in 2015 -- after Warren refused to run despite Bernie encouraging her to do so, mind you -- he has rocked and shaken the American political landscape. Nobody can deny that, and if you do, you're delusional. Do you really think this progressive surge that's been going on the last couple of years would be this widespread throughout the nation if it wasn't for Bernie and him running for 2016?

The progressive socialist surge of 7 people he had nothing to do with.
 

Nephrahim

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Bernie must have really burned all his bridges in DC because it really seems pathological how much he gets attacked by all the establishment.
 

dude

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Ah so you don't know what a war criminal is ? I get it.
So... I live in Israel, so I know pretty up close what war criminals look like (since they're a big percentage of the politicians here, from left and right).
Obama is a war criminal - killing civilian population is a war crime when the IDF do it, and when the US military does it as well.
 

DrForester

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She's totally right about Bernie Bros.

"Not getting things done" is a lame attack.

She can fuck right off with that hesitation about endorsing him if he's the nominee.
 

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Ok, well that doesn't actually answer the question.

War criminal is a pretty big tag to hand out so I'm wondering what people mean when whip that label out.
I'm pointing out he knowingly murdered civilians and just fudged the definition of combatants to get away with it, how is knowingly murdering civilians without any attempt to preserve life and actively trying to cover it up not a case of him being a war criminal?
 
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It certainly didn't help his case in hurting Hillary. Since Trump was up there was no reason to risk weakening her.



No, but conversations between his campaigns were inevitable when he ran again.
Maybe you wont vibe with this generalization but I've never understood how american's can be so Snyder batman about the political process
"if there's is even a 1% chance that a move undermines our competitiveness then we have to take it as an absolute negative"
unfortunately the democratic process is usually better engaged when the entire canvas of the primary process is open for people to challenge the terrible records of the kind of people who tend to become frontrunners for the presidency.
 

JABEE

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Hillary Clinton vacationed with Epstein and invited his pimp to their daughter's wedding. She should fade off into the distance and stop dirtying the party.
 

Surface of Me

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While Bernie is "to busy" to care about the issue at all. It took a large amount fo female staffers meeting with him years later before it would become a priority for his presidential campaigns. Hillary's terrible history with this but it pales to Bernie's apathy.

What kind of backwards ass logic is this? Actively defending sexual predators is better than apathy? Go get some fresh air.
 

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Smh at her reluctance to say she'd endorse him if he became the nominee. It was dumb as fuck when people did it to her in 2016, and we really don't need to have people going through this shit a second time when Donald fucking Trump is in office.
Yep
 

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It's sad to say but as an American president being a war criminal is like a rite of passage lol. If Bernie Sanders were to win he would be too by the end of his presidency.
True, though this is part of why Bernie is so popular, people hope he won't do this shit. He probably will as he'll need to sate the rest of Congress' bloodlust if he wants to get shit down but we can hope
 

Green Yoshi

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Hillary being brutally honest here.
Her sympathies are clearly defined. ;-)

donald-trump-hillary-clinton.jpg
 

Solaris

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I dont understand. How did Hillary lose her election in 2016? Someone so in touch should have been able to beat anyone.

She had it on a fucking silver platter and blew it and people still stan her

Clinton is being brutally honest, how people perceive that honesty is up to debate but it's pretty clear she's not giving a fuck with a filter anymore.

If she's being 'brutally honest' here, then surely she has been very much dishonest in her praise of Bernie in the past? (examples of which linked in this thread)
 

lmcfigs

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We really ought to listen to Clinton. Famously beloved politician who knows how to win presidential elections.
 

iksenpets

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She cares more about her ego than the country. Keeping her head down wouldn't accomplish anything. It's the same reason people who supported her in 2016 keep bringing her up now, it's about triggering people for the lulz out of jaded spite.

Like just think of how many people ran into that AOC thread yesterday to say how she was damaging the potential nominee, and Hillary is giving interviews suggesting she wouldn't support Sanders if he won. It's pathetic.

And like, I legitimately get her frustrations with 2016 Bernie. His insistence on running all the way to the convention even after he was mathematically defeated was genuinely damaging to her, but you kind of throw that criticism of candidate ego and party disloyalty out the window when you play coy about not endorsing the nominee this time around. You were clearly never mad that Bernie was being strategically suboptimal, just that he wasn't kowtowing to you personally. Fuck off with that.
 

Mivey

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Enough of these career politicians, the US needs normal, down-to-earth people like Hillary in office.
#Hillary2020 #I'mStillWithHer
 

3bdelilah

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Bernie must have really burned all his bridges in DC because it really seems pathological how much he gets attacked by all the establishment.
He's coming for their corporate paychecks, and demanding accountability is apparently too extreme. It was okay in the decades past when most people didn't know who he was, but he's starting to get dangerous now.

If anything, him getting attacked so much only proves he's on the right track.
 

KingKong

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just how many essays have you guys written about Bernie this week while he was getting endorsed by every progressive member of the government and unions across the country.

really pathetic needy stuff, just how many threads do you need to write the same shit
 

Ichthyosaurus

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Maybe you wont vibe with this generalization but I've never understood how american's can be so Snyder batman about the political process
"if there's is even a 1% chance that a move undermines our competitiveness then we have to take it as an absolute negative"
unfortunately the democratic process is usually better engaged when the entire canvas of the primary process is open for people to challenge the terrible records of the kind of people who tend to become frontrunners for the presidency.

When your campaign's dead by Super Tuesday the right thing to do is quit. Bernie wasted everyone's time for months, that's not a competition it's a slaughter.
 

Sanka

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Those centrists are really afraid of Bernie. Trying their hardest to paint him a certain way.
 

Salty_Josh

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I will say, however, that it's not only him, it's the culture around him. It's his leadership team. It's his prominent supporters. It's his online Bernie Bros and their relentless attacks on lots of his competitors, particularly the women. And I really hope people are paying attention to that because it should be worrisome that he has permitted this culture — not only permitted, [he] seems to really be very much supporting it.
Jeremy Corbyn vibes
That being said I'm not really educated enough on this Sanders backlash I'm seeing going on lately, so I can't say much more than that really
 

mescalineeyes

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Way less then most of us was saying in the Bernie Mississippi thread! Or is "We should be critical of our leaders" mantra only come into play when it's not Bernie?

no one is saying don't be critical of Bernie, it's usually supporters of other candidates that get their jimmies rustled when Bernie is criticising them and proceed to yell about unity.

well at least the mask is off now.
 
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